Re: [Felvtalk] Getting the med IC...

2015-10-30 Thread Marsha 
Funny how some are so quick to learn the word "treat", or "milk", or 
"mouse", but when you talk sweetly to them and try to comfort them while 
you're doing something that helps them...doesn't always work so well.  Sigh.


Marsha

On 10/30/2015 6:24 AM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

Wouldn't it be nice if we could talk to them and explain why we are doing this, 
like it is for your own good.

 Margo  wrote:



I was once trying to give an injection to a very unhappy cat. He was being carefully restrained by 
three people, and he was winning, big time. I asked where/how it should be given, and the vet 
hollered "IC". I looked at her, and she said with gritted teeth "In Cat".

  My most successful method of dealing with difficult cats is either a 
screen door, or a vertical upholstered surface. Scruff the cat, and get them to 
attach their front claws to either the screen or fabric, at a level of about 
your shoulder. Lower the rest of the cat (claws still attached) and you'll find 
that you have pretty good control. I can usually release the scruff, tilt their 
head back, and have two hands to tilt his/her and get the meds in successfully, 
but it has to be quick. They're so worried abut hanging on, they're at least a 
little off their game. I'm right handed, so I scruff/hang with my left, so my 
right hand has good access...

Just a thought...

Margo




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Re: [Felvtalk] Getting the med IC...

2015-10-30 Thread dlgegg 
Wouldn't it be nice if we could talk to them and explain why we are doing this, 
like it is for your own good.

 Margo  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> I was once trying to give an injection to a very unhappy cat. He was being 
> carefully restrained by three people, and he was winning, big time. I asked 
> where/how it should be given, and the vet hollered "IC". I looked at her, and 
> she said with gritted teeth "In Cat".
> 
>  My most successful method of dealing with difficult cats is either a 
> screen door, or a vertical upholstered surface. Scruff the cat, and get them 
> to attach their front claws to either the screen or fabric, at a level of 
> about your shoulder. Lower the rest of the cat (claws still attached) and 
> you'll find that you have pretty good control. I can usually release the 
> scruff, tilt their head back, and have two hands to tilt his/her and get the 
> meds in successfully, but it has to be quick. They're so worried abut hanging 
> on, they're at least a little off their game. I'm right handed, so I 
> scruff/hang with my left, so my right hand has good access...
> 
> Just a thought...
> 
> Margo
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> >From: dlg...@windstream.net
> >Sent: Oct 29, 2015 1:50 AM
> >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))
> >
> >YOU WOULD THINK THAT IT WOULD NOT BE HARD, AFTER ALL, THEY ARE SMALLER THAN 
> >US.  THEY CAN BACK RIGHT OUT OF YOUR GRIP AND BE LONG GONE BEFORE YOU KNOW 
> >WHAT HAPPENED.
> >
> > Marsha  wrote: 
> >> Yep, that's what I do.  She is still a huge challenge.  I got a Dr. 
> >> Hanson's bullseye pill gun, and that is helping, but sometimes I still 
> >> have to try twice even with that.  She is a stinker.  Three times I took 
> >> her to the vet for the techs to do it.  Took 2 of them, and they were 
> >> doing the "works like a charm" method too.  LOL!  I've had just one cat 
> >> that was a bigger challenge.
> >> 
> >> Marsha
> >> 
> >> On 10/28/2015 7:23 PM, Ardy Robertson wrote:
> >> > Have you ever tried holding her opposite side ear/side of head and 
> >> > tilting
> >> > her head upward until under chin line is completely vertical, and then 
> >> > with
> >> > the other hand you can pull the lower part of her mouth down and pop the
> >> > pill into the back of her mouth. Then let go of her ear/side of head and
> >> > gently stroke her neck to make the pill go down. Works like a charm.
> >> >
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> >> > Marsha
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 10:18 AM
> >> > To: dlg...@windstream.net; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))
> >> >
> >> > I got some venison and duck of some brand that was new to me.  The 
> >> > venison
> >> > was a big hit for a few days because it was such a novelty.  Now none of 
> >> > the
> >> > cats will eat it.  So, I'm saving it for later, when it might be "new"
> >> > again. LOL.  Pilling is extremely difficult with Peaches.  She will jerk 
> >> > her
> >> > head if she can, but the movement INSIDE her mouth, especially with her
> >> > tongue is pretty amazing no matter how "still" I hold the rest of her.
> >> >
> >> 
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[Felvtalk] Getting the med IC...

2015-10-29 Thread Margo 



I was once trying to give an injection to a very unhappy cat. He was being 
carefully restrained by three people, and he was winning, big time. I asked 
where/how it should be given, and the vet hollered "IC". I looked at her, and 
she said with gritted teeth "In Cat".

 My most successful method of dealing with difficult cats is either a 
screen door, or a vertical upholstered surface. Scruff the cat, and get them to 
attach their front claws to either the screen or fabric, at a level of about 
your shoulder. Lower the rest of the cat (claws still attached) and you'll find 
that you have pretty good control. I can usually release the scruff, tilt their 
head back, and have two hands to tilt his/her and get the meds in successfully, 
but it has to be quick. They're so worried abut hanging on, they're at least a 
little off their game. I'm right handed, so I scruff/hang with my left, so my 
right hand has good access...

Just a thought...

Margo


-Original Message-
>From: dlg...@windstream.net
>Sent: Oct 29, 2015 1:50 AM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))
>
>YOU WOULD THINK THAT IT WOULD NOT BE HARD, AFTER ALL, THEY ARE SMALLER THAN 
>US.  THEY CAN BACK RIGHT OUT OF YOUR GRIP AND BE LONG GONE BEFORE YOU KNOW 
>WHAT HAPPENED.
>
> Marsha  wrote: 
>> Yep, that's what I do.  She is still a huge challenge.  I got a Dr. 
>> Hanson's bullseye pill gun, and that is helping, but sometimes I still 
>> have to try twice even with that.  She is a stinker.  Three times I took 
>> her to the vet for the techs to do it.  Took 2 of them, and they were 
>> doing the "works like a charm" method too.  LOL!  I've had just one cat 
>> that was a bigger challenge.
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> On 10/28/2015 7:23 PM, Ardy Robertson wrote:
>> > Have you ever tried holding her opposite side ear/side of head and tilting
>> > her head upward until under chin line is completely vertical, and then with
>> > the other hand you can pull the lower part of her mouth down and pop the
>> > pill into the back of her mouth. Then let go of her ear/side of head and
>> > gently stroke her neck to make the pill go down. Works like a charm.
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
>> > Marsha
>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 10:18 AM
>> > To: dlg...@windstream.net; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))
>> >
>> > I got some venison and duck of some brand that was new to me.  The venison
>> > was a big hit for a few days because it was such a novelty.  Now none of 
>> > the
>> > cats will eat it.  So, I'm saving it for later, when it might be "new"
>> > again. LOL.  Pilling is extremely difficult with Peaches.  She will jerk 
>> > her
>> > head if she can, but the movement INSIDE her mouth, especially with her
>> > tongue is pretty amazing no matter how "still" I hold the rest of her.
>> >
>> 
>> 
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