Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing pos and neg cats

2012-02-25 Thread GRAS
Cats get addicted to those little cans because they are loaded with inordinate 
amounts of sugar and fats (it was found that diabetes can be attributed to cats 
whose diet includes only those addictive foods)cats' palates get acclimated 
to them and eventually  refuse any of the good foods, which are still not 
very good for them. I have recently read a report on pet foods - many contain 
flesh from shelter-killed animals, reject meat from slaughterhouses like 
tumors, diseased flesh, cartilage, bones, and even hides. It's a rotten shame 
that one can't even trust the very best and most expensive foods for our dogs 
and cats. There are things that one can place on top of so-called better 
foods, like those dried fish flakes, or teeny amounts of what they like just to 
make them eat something a little better. But if a cat doesn't want to eat at 
all, I always feel that something is better than nothing - as long as they get 
some nutrition!  Some of our cats love people tuna in oil (not water), the 
dark kind, and others like sardines in oil; the smelliest being mackerel...it's 
a matter of trial and error.
BTW - honey contains all kinds of helpful enzymes, especially the kind that 
isn't pasteurized!
Natalie


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I lnow someone who used Coke in an emergency. Hey it had sugar  it worked!

Marta Gasper marta.gas...@yahoo.com wrote:

What hapens with giving them a dab of honey is that it boost the blood sugar 
so if they might start to eat. It is the sugar, not the texture. I've a rescue 
group and fosters , we always use honey in cases when a cat stops eating, 
specially with kittens and anemic cats. Rub honey or Karo on their gums so it 
is absorbed by the skin, sugar goes directly in their bloodstream w/o having 
to use energy to break up what they swallowed. Also give sugar water by 
syringe, shoot in cheek pouch.
 
I wished the good foods were more palatable to cats, mine don't like 
them either but they love Purina cat chow and Fancy Feast..like ppl we 
are not too atracted to health food though;) Marta


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From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing pos and neg cats
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, February 24, 2012, 10:58 PM





Toni, i enjoyed reading about your family and your tips. I also put a 
dab of vicks vapor rub on the nose of  my cat that had the respiratory 
infection . I tried Wellness dry cat food but none of my cats would eat 
it. They like some of the purina one  dry food flavors. I tried the 
Tiki brand b/c I heard it was good but after trying it my cats didn't 
really want to keep eating it. they liked the tuna and chicken best or 
plain tuna.  I tired purina one canned but they don't really like it 
that much. They like some of the fancy feast and publix brand and 
target boots and barclay. I would prefer they ate foods without dyes, 
etc but they seem to like the junk food. I give them deli low salt 
turkey for a treat every now and then. Re losing hair years ago I used 
to use frontline and it took the hair off the area of one of my cat's 
neck and it didn't grow back for years. some of my cats foamed at the  
mouth so I just gave up.  I use a flea comb on them, drop the fleas in 
alcohol. I have a cat fence section of my yard and have been treating 
it with diamateceous earth, supposedly a natural flea killer. I have noticed 
fewer fleas so i will keep trying.
Another issue is kitty litter. My cats hate any scented. Re the corn 
and hard pellet, they refused to use it. I currently use Dr Eisley but 
it doesn't absorb as good as it used to.





From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:10 PM
Subject: Tips to share?





On a different subject thought I might share this
 
Re taking cats to vets:
I often forget this in the stress of trying to help a sick animal
 but if you put an  t shirt or towel you wore in the carrier with your 
scent , it seems to calm them. Ask vet staff to put it in their kennels 
if they are being transferred from the carrier they came in..
Re getting a cat to eat:
I recently had three older cats that were sick and were being treated 
with antibiotics and wouldn't eat. One had upper respiratory congestion. One 
urinary infection.
One reason unknown. They were on antibiotics but still wouldn't eat.
Sometimes antibiotics upset stomach.
Searched the internet and found a suggestion to put a dab of honey in 
their mouth. Don't know if coincidence or the antibiotics kicking in
 but it seemed to help them maybe soothed sore throat or stomach. I 
only put a dime sized drop

[Felvtalk] Mixing pos and neg cats

2012-02-24 Thread Toni Probst
Mixing pos and negs and the use of honey..
I have 3 cats one pos and the other two are neg, I use the ultra violet water 
bowl, and the cat genie litter box,
All three are great and healthy, I also have 2 ferrets, 2 kids with Aspergers 
autism, military homeschooling household, hectic to say the least. Foods I am 
using Blue wilderness salmon, with added broth for water to keep down 
dehydration, cans I am using are Blue or Wellness, I check ingredients and they 
get one can a day, the ages of my cats are 3 Princess, she is pos, she wondered 
in to the house one day, the other two we adopted from the shelter, Jessie, 6 
mth, Lolliepop is 2. I know what a name for cat, the ferrets are3 and 2 yrs 
old, Soda and Popper, with Princess everything is good the vet thinks she is in 
remission but she is balding, is that normal? Around her ears and the collar so 
I took off her collar. I also use honey when I brush their teeth as a reward 
and to make them drink after, if I don't they do not drink to wash out their 
mouths, should I use a bulb to wash it out for them ? Maybe instead. Also I use 
a Vicks type when they get sick and echinacea goldenseal once a week just one 
drop in canned food, the Vicks is for small animals upper respiratory  health 
and I also but them in the bathroom for the steam relief , the bottle is 
labeled ferret R x but it works great just a dab on the chin and top of the 
nose. I didn't know if any one else had tried home remedies, and am very glad I 
found this site because my neighbors are upset for me keeping her alive and 
around the other 2 cats.now she does not play or clean the other 2cats she is 
very loving and loves to be inside, I still don't who she belonged to before 
but she does not want anything to with outside, thank goodness, all my 
neighbors have dogs, I think that is how she ended up in my backyard. Just 
don't know if any of this will help any one but the vet thinks that is why they 
are all doing so well, now if I can address my sneezing and itchy eyes, I rub 
them down with dryer sheets that have not been used and when brushing I use 
half downy and water in a spray bottle, it is more the hair falling then flying 
in the air, saliva is what is said to cause cat allergies for humans, so I 
don't know really I just know it helps me live with them since they all like to 
sleep right at my head and no one elses, no one else is allergic why do they 
target me.? Oh well, a very good lesson for the kids and a good addition to 
them family, I can't afford the best of care so I do a lot of research, any 
help would be great , Princess has stolen my heart, I want her to make it, she 
is the first animal I have been able to bond with since my dog was killed by 
the neighbors dogs in 09 he was my mother s day  present when we moved to Texas 
in 07. Ok well thanks for listening anyway 

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[Felvtalk] Mixing pos and neg cats

2012-02-24 Thread dppl dppl
Toni, i enjoyed reading about your family and your tips. I also put a dab of
vicks vapor rub on the nose of  my cat that had the respiratory infection . I 
tried 
Wellness dry cat food but none of my cats would eat it. They like some of
the purina one  dry food flavors. I tried the Tiki brand b/c I heard it was 
good but
after trying it my cats didn't really want to keep eating it. they liked the 
tuna
and chicken best or plain tuna.  I tired purina one canned but they
don't really like it that much. They like some of
the fancy feast and publix brand and target boots and barclay. I would prefer 
they ate foods without dyes, etc but they seem to like the junk food. I give
them deli low salt turkey for a treat every now and then. Re losing hair
years ago I used to use frontline and it took the hair off the area of one of
my cat's neck and it didn't grow back for years. some of my cats foamed
at the  mouth so I just gave up.  I use a flea comb on them, drop the fleas in
alcohol. I have a cat fence section of my yard and have been treating it
with diamateceous earth, supposedly a natural flea killer. I have noticed
fewer fleas so i will keep trying. 
Another issue is kitty litter. My cats hate any scented. Re the corn and hard
pellet, they refused to use it. I currently use
Dr Eisley but it doesn't absorb as good as it used to. 
 


 From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:10 PM
Subject: Tips to share?
  

On a different subject thought I might share this 

Re taking cats to vets:
I often forget this in the stress of trying to help a sick animal
 but if you put an  t shirt or towel you wore in the carrier with your scent , 
it
seems to calm them. Ask vet staff to put it in their kennels if they are being 
transferred 
from the carrier they came in..
Re getting a cat to eat:
I recently had three older cats that were sick and were being treated with 
antibiotics
and wouldn't eat. One had upper respiratory congestion. One urinary infection.
One reason unknown. They were on antibiotics but still wouldn't eat.
Sometimes antibiotics upset stomach.
Searched the internet and found a suggestion to put a dab of honey in
their mouth. Don't know if coincidence or the antibiotics kicking in
 but it seemed to help them maybe soothed
sore throat or stomach. I only put a dime sized drop on outer lips once or 
twice . I am not a vet so
if you are thinking of trying this,. 
Check with your vet first, as i did to make sure no harm given your cat's 
specific condition..
one of the sites mentioning honey is 
mia-carter.suite101.com/why-isnt-my-cat-eating-a60630
has anyone else had experience with this home remedy?
Cat with upper respiratory infection:
I also put my cat in the bathroom when i took a steaming shower. I think 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing pos and neg cats

2012-02-24 Thread Marta Gasper
What hapens with giving them a dab of honey is that it boost the blood sugar so 
if they might start to eat. It is the sugar, not the texture. I've a rescue 
group and fosters , we always use honey in cases when a cat stops eating, 
specially with kittens and anemic cats. Rub honey or Karo on their gums so it 
is absorbed by the skin, sugar goes directly in their bloodstream w/o having to 
use energy to break up what they swallowed. Also give sugar water by syringe, 
shoot in cheek pouch.
 
I wished the good foods were more palatable to cats, mine don't like them 
either but they love Purina cat chow and Fancy Feast..like ppl we are not too 
atracted to health food though;)
Marta


http://homelessnomore.webs.com/

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From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing pos and neg cats
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, February 24, 2012, 10:58 PM





Toni, i enjoyed reading about your family and your tips. I also put a dab of
vicks vapor rub on the nose of  my cat that had the respiratory infection . I 
tried 
Wellness dry cat food but none of my cats would eat it. They like some of
the purina one  dry food flavors. I tried the Tiki brand b/c I heard it was 
good but
after trying it my cats didn't really want to keep eating it. they liked the 
tuna
and chicken best or plain tuna.  I tired purina one canned but they
don't really like it that much. They like some of
the fancy feast and publix brand and target boots and barclay. I would prefer 
they ate foods without dyes, etc but they seem to like the junk food. I give
them deli low salt turkey for a treat every now and then. Re losing hair
years ago I used to use frontline and it took the hair off the area of one of
my cat's neck and it didn't grow back for years. some of my cats foamed
at the  mouth so I just gave up.  I use a flea comb on them, drop the fleas in
alcohol. I have a cat fence section of my yard and have been treating it
with diamateceous earth, supposedly a natural flea killer. I have noticed
fewer fleas so i will keep trying. 
Another issue is kitty litter. My cats hate any scented. Re the corn and hard
pellet, they refused to use it. I currently use
Dr Eisley but it doesn't absorb as good as it used to. 





From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:10 PM
Subject: Tips to share?





On a different subject thought I might share this 
 
Re taking cats to vets:
I often forget this in the stress of trying to help a sick animal
 but if you put an  t shirt or towel you wore in the carrier with your scent , 
it
seems to calm them. Ask vet staff to put it in their kennels if they are being 
transferred 
from the carrier they came in..
Re getting a cat to eat:
I recently had three older cats that were sick and were being treated with 
antibiotics
and wouldn't eat. One had upper respiratory congestion. One urinary infection.
One reason unknown. They were on antibiotics but still wouldn't eat.
Sometimes antibiotics upset stomach.
Searched the internet and found a suggestion to put a dab of honey in
their mouth. Don't know if coincidence or the antibiotics kicking in
 but it seemed to help them maybe soothed
sore throat or stomach. I only put a dime sized drop on outer lips once or 
twice . I am not a vet so
if you are thinking of trying this,. 
Check with your vet first, as i did to make sure no harm given your cat's 
specific condition..
one of the sites mentioning honey is 
mia-carter.suite101.com/why-isnt-my-cat-eating-a60630
has anyone else had experience with this home remedy?
Cat with upper respiratory infection:
I also put my cat in the bathroom when i took a steaming shower. I think 
it really helped.
 

    


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Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing pos and neg cats

2012-02-24 Thread Beth
I lnow someone who used Coke in an emergency. Hey it had sugar  it worked!

Marta Gasper marta.gas...@yahoo.com wrote:

What hapens with giving them a dab of honey is that it boost the blood sugar 
so if they might start to eat. It is the sugar, not the texture. I've a rescue 
group and fosters , we always use honey in cases when a cat stops eating, 
specially with kittens and anemic cats. Rub honey or Karo on their gums so it 
is absorbed by the skin, sugar goes directly in their bloodstream w/o having 
to use energy to break up what they swallowed. Also give sugar water by 
syringe, shoot in cheek pouch.
 
I wished the good foods were more palatable to cats, mine don't like them 
either but they love Purina cat chow and Fancy Feast..like ppl we are not too 
atracted to health food though;)
Marta


http://homelessnomore.webs.com/

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From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing pos and neg cats
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, February 24, 2012, 10:58 PM





Toni, i enjoyed reading about your family and your tips. I also put a dab of
vicks vapor rub on the nose of  my cat that had the respiratory infection . I 
tried 
Wellness dry cat food but none of my cats would eat it. They like some of
the purina one  dry food flavors. I tried the Tiki brand b/c I heard it was 
good but
after trying it my cats didn't really want to keep eating it. they liked the 
tuna
and chicken best or plain tuna.  I tired purina one canned but they
don't really like it that much. They like some of
the fancy feast and publix brand and target boots and barclay. I would prefer 
they ate foods without dyes, etc but they seem to like the junk food. I give
them deli low salt turkey for a treat every now and then. Re losing hair
years ago I used to use frontline and it took the hair off the area of one of
my cat's neck and it didn't grow back for years. some of my cats foamed
at the  mouth so I just gave up.  I use a flea comb on them, drop the fleas in
alcohol. I have a cat fence section of my yard and have been treating it
with diamateceous earth, supposedly a natural flea killer. I have noticed
fewer fleas so i will keep trying. 
Another issue is kitty litter. My cats hate any scented. Re the corn and hard
pellet, they refused to use it. I currently use
Dr Eisley but it doesn't absorb as good as it used to. 





From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:10 PM
Subject: Tips to share?





On a different subject thought I might share this 
 
Re taking cats to vets:
I often forget this in the stress of trying to help a sick animal
 but if you put an  t shirt or towel you wore in the carrier with your scent , 
it
seems to calm them. Ask vet staff to put it in their kennels if they are being 
transferred 
from the carrier they came in..
Re getting a cat to eat:
I recently had three older cats that were sick and were being treated with 
antibiotics
and wouldn't eat. One had upper respiratory congestion. One urinary infection.
One reason unknown. They were on antibiotics but still wouldn't eat.
Sometimes antibiotics upset stomach.
Searched the internet and found a suggestion to put a dab of honey in
their mouth. Don't know if coincidence or the antibiotics kicking in
 but it seemed to help them maybe soothed
sore throat or stomach. I only put a dime sized drop on outer lips once or 
twice . I am not a vet so
if you are thinking of trying this,. 
Check with your vet first, as i did to make sure no harm given your cat's 
specific condition..
one of the sites mentioning honey is 
mia-carter.suite101.com/why-isnt-my-cat-eating-a60630
has anyone else had experience with this home remedy?
Cat with upper respiratory infection:
I also put my cat in the bathroom when i took a steaming shower. I think 
it really helped.
 

    


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