Re: [Felvtalk] pregnant positive cat
Hi Kat,
Guess we're all on the same page. When I saw you mention abort I
wanted to be clear on my thoughts. I'm curious about the kitty dnc, could you
explain?
Thanks!
Margo
-Original Message-
From: Korruptakitty korruptaki...@gmail.com
Sent: Jan 15, 2015 9:26 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] pregnant positive cat
Well, yes, of course spayed. I was just saying terminated because after a
certain point, sometimes a kitty dnc of sorts, is necessary. I didn't mean
to imply I thought she should be left intact, by any means.
Sealed with a purr.. =^.,^=
~Kat~
***I'm Kat Parker; I park cats***
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 01:48:06 + (UTC)
From: judith cook jmasse...@yahoo.com
To: Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net,
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AllYes, I AM planning to do a spay, if that's what we think is best. ?I have
heard about cats in heat - really devious little devils, and pains in the
neck. ?Really want to get this resolved, and hoping that it works out best
for my kitty. ?Her name is Spice, and she is (no surprise) a tortoiseshell
with white chest, belly, and paws. ?She really looks a lot like another
tortie I once had - a little jewel also. ?Thanks so much for your advice and
interest. ?Will let you know ASAP.Judy
On Thursday, January 15, 2015 3:57 AM, Margo
toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:
#yiv6002453355 body{font-family:Geneva, Arial, Helvetica,
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Kat??? You're still timely, there will be a meeting with the Vet
Friday, I believe. I just want to be clear on what I stated, so there is no
misunderstanding :). I think Kitty should be spayed, not aborted. Leaving
her intact would be an invitation to a repeat pregnancy, and the stress of
heat cycles. No matter how careful we are, cats get out, and?a cat in heat
is VERY resourceful! At least with a spay, it's all over with.All the
best,Margo
-Original Message-
From: Kat Parker
Sent: Jan 14, 2015 1:25 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] pregnant FeLV cat
PLEASE have the abort the kittens. We have our vets here for the
? FCC terminate cats pregnancies up until the time of birth, sometimes. And
if you have watched many kittens die of FeLV, like I have,you wouldnt wish
that on them. Not Only born to die,but a terrible death that is
unnecessary. I realize I am not replying in a timely manner, and I hope
it is not too late, but please, do the right thing by these kittens.Also,
in terms of Momma's Stress, no doubt about it, kitten birth, nursing, the
stress involved,and watching her own kittens die one by one. Please
terminate this pregnancy.
*Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **I'm Kat
Parker. I park cats.*
* Spay neuter your neighbors... maybe THAT will fix the problem.*
*Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE HAPPY
cat!*
*http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector
*
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 03:31:36 + (UTC)
From: judith cook
To: Margo ,
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pregnant
Re: [Felvtalk] pregnant positive cat
I am getting more confused. A standard spay of a female cat involves removal of both ovaries and both uterine horns. The uterus is not left behind, so there would be no D C as is done with humans after a miscarriage. The ovaries, uterus, AND kittens inside it would come out during a spay, thus terminating (or aborting) the pregnancy by default. Spaying is not just tying tubes. If she was confirmed positive by IFA test, I personally would schedule this asap, but would ask the vet about what happens at whatever stage of pregnancy she's at, and how would they ensure the kittens would pass peacefully. It's awful to think about, but bringing a litter (how many? 3, 4, 5 or more?) of FeLV+ kittens into the world isn't so great to think about either. How would you place them, would you keep them all? It would be very hard emotionally and financially, I think. Marsha (best wishes, whatever you decide) On 1/15/2015 8:26 PM, Korruptakitty wrote: Well, yes, of course spayed. I was just saying terminated because after a certain point, sometimes a kitty dnc of sorts, is necessary. I didn't mean to imply I thought she should be left intact, by any means. Sealed with a purr.. =^.,^= ~Kat~ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] pregnant positive cat
That's a tough issue and I can see both sides. The kittens would take a lot of her nutrients during nursing, but I don't know how much that would compromise her immune system. The idea of eliminating a pregnancy during spay appeals to no one, but raising a litter of positive kittens has it's own share of heartbreaks. I'm sure you and your vet will make the right call for sweet Spice. She's lucky to have you caring for her. On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote: I am getting more confused. A standard spay of a female cat involves removal of both ovaries and both uterine horns. The uterus is not left behind, so there would be no D C as is done with humans after a miscarriage. The ovaries, uterus, AND kittens inside it would come out during a spay, thus terminating (or aborting) the pregnancy by default. Spaying is not just tying tubes. If she was confirmed positive by IFA test, I personally would schedule this asap, but would ask the vet about what happens at whatever stage of pregnancy she's at, and how would they ensure the kittens would pass peacefully. It's awful to think about, but bringing a litter (how many? 3, 4, 5 or more?) of FeLV+ kittens into the world isn't so great to think about either. How would you place them, would you keep them all? It would be very hard emotionally and financially, I think. Marsha (best wishes, whatever you decide) On 1/15/2015 8:26 PM, Korruptakitty wrote: Well, yes, of course spayed. I was just saying terminated because after a certain point, sometimes a kitty dnc of sorts, is necessary. I didn't mean to imply I thought she should be left intact, by any means. Sealed with a purr.. =^.,^= ~Kat~ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] pregnant positive cat
Well, yes, of course spayed. I was just saying terminated because after a
certain point, sometimes a kitty dnc of sorts, is necessary. I didn't mean
to imply I thought she should be left intact, by any means.
Sealed with a purr.. =^.,^=
~Kat~
***I'm Kat Parker; I park cats***
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 01:48:06 + (UTC)
From: judith cook jmasse...@yahoo.com
To: Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net,
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AllYes, I AM planning to do a spay, if that's what we think is best. ?I have
heard about cats in heat - really devious little devils, and pains in the
neck. ?Really want to get this resolved, and hoping that it works out best
for my kitty. ?Her name is Spice, and she is (no surprise) a tortoiseshell
with white chest, belly, and paws. ?She really looks a lot like another
tortie I once had - a little jewel also. ?Thanks so much for your advice and
interest. ?Will let you know ASAP.Judy
On Thursday, January 15, 2015 3:57 AM, Margo
toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:
#yiv6002453355 body{font-family:Geneva, Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;font-size:9pt;background-color:#ff;color:black;} ?Hi
Kat??? You're still timely, there will be a meeting with the Vet
Friday, I believe. I just want to be clear on what I stated, so there is no
misunderstanding :). I think Kitty should be spayed, not aborted. Leaving her
intact would be an invitation to a repeat pregnancy, and the stress of heat
cycles. No matter how careful we are, cats get out, and?a cat in heat is VERY
resourceful! At least with a spay, it's all over with.All the best,Margo
-Original Message-
From: Kat Parker
Sent: Jan 14, 2015 1:25 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] pregnant FeLV cat
PLEASE have the abort the kittens. We have our vets here for the
? FCC terminate cats pregnancies up until the time of birth, sometimes. And
if you have watched many kittens die of FeLV, like I have,you wouldnt wish
that on them. Not Only born to die,but a terrible death that is
unnecessary. I realize I am not replying in a timely manner, and I hope
it is not too late, but please, do the right thing by these kittens.Also,
in terms of Momma's Stress, no doubt about it, kitten birth, nursing, the
stress involved,and watching her own kittens die one by one. Please
terminate this pregnancy.
*Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **I'm Kat
Parker. I park cats.*
* Spay neuter your neighbors... maybe THAT will fix the problem.*
*Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE HAPPY
cat!*
*http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector
*
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 03:31:36 + (UTC)
From: judith cook
To: Margo ,
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pregnant FeLV cat
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I don't know how far along. ?Just got this kitty right after Christmas.
?The vet can feel her kittens, though, so I guess it's not just the
beginning. ?The vet is trying to get some information also - she is
concerned about this cat, even though the
