Asia, second opinion

2006-11-24 Thread Dianne K Perry, Ph.D.
Have an appointment today at 4 pm with an oncologist/internal medicine vet for 
evaluation of Asia.  This is a relief just knowing I can get to Dr. Ward today. 
 Been there before with dogs and she will tell me the blunt truth.  Then I can 
decide what to do next.

Have a friend in NY that is a cancer vet and radiologist who has now become 
involved and will send test results to him too.

Dianne and Asia

Re: Asia, second opinion

2006-11-24 Thread ETrent
I'm glad you are going to get a second opinion.  Please keep us posted

elizabeth



In a message dated 11/24/06 08:38:34 Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
Have an appointment today at 4 pm with an oncologist/internal medicine vet for 
evaluation of Asia.  This is a relief just knowing I can get to Dr. Ward today. 
 Been there before with dogs and she will tell me the blunt truth.  Then I can 
decide what to do next.

Have a friend in NY that is a cancer vet and radiologist who has now become 
involved and will send test results to him too.

Dianne and Asia


Re: Asia, second opinion/report from Wed

2006-11-24 Thread Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn
hemothorax could be:

Pneumothorax refers to air accumulation in the chest cavity. As odd as this
sounds, the chest cavity must have a vacuum (no air) to work properly. There
should be no air pressure outside the lungs. This enables them to inflate
when the muscle of the chest are relaxed and it expands. The air is then
forced out of the chest by contraction of the muscle of the chest. When the
lung is damaged and leaks air, it collapses the lung. The same thing happens
when there is a hole in the chest allowing air in. Either situation can be
the cause of pneumothorax after a traumatic even like being hit by a car. If
there is only a small amount of air accumulated it can be reabsorbed. This
is commonly the case with blunt trauma in which the lung ruptures, then
heals itself quickly. If there is a lot of air or continuous leakage of air,
it is usually necessary to place a drain in the chest to remove the air and
maintain a vacuum.

This usually leads to difficulty breathing, or rapid shallow breathing. It
is a weird thing to consider to be FELV related. Pneumothorax usually
indicates trauma to the chest. Like being hit by a car, kicked, or slammed
in a door. NOT typical of a FELV diagnosis. Makes me wonder why, if the vet
saw this, did he still say it's FELV and recommend euthanasia? He should
have decompressed the air in the chest cavity by aspirating it out with a
needle.

Also, a BIG BIG BIG factor to consider when you see a lack of blood clotting
is rat POISONING, which should be considered VERY serious, and treated
immediately. Poisoning can ALSO lead to fluid in the chest cavity that MAY
be seen on an x-ray as a Pneumothorax or Pneumonia, except it's BLOOD in the
chest cavity from the organs bleeding out due to the anticoagulant
properties of many rat poisons.

Regardless, if he had DONE THE ASPIRATION with the needle, he would have
KNOWN if it were air, fluid, or blood (or nothing).

Phaewryn

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Re: Asia, second opinion/report from Wed

2006-11-24 Thread Lernermichelle
 
PCV 32 means that she is not anemic.  I would not worry about her  blood 
count.
 
It sounds like she has fluid in or around her lungs. This could mean  
pneumonia, which would be treated with antibiotics. Or it could mean 
mediastinal  
lymphoma (see my previous email) or congestive heart failure (which is 
treatable  
with medications).  You need to see another vet who will do appropriate  
tests to diagnose (even an x-ray might help), an internist preferably.
 
Michelle
 
In a message dated 11/24/2006 12:42:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I also picked up the records from Wed.Temp was 101.90  muffled  heart 
sounds and a bpr (?) or hpr  of 180---something I can't  read
 
FELV (+) FIV (-) strong positive PCV 32 ...lack of severe anemia ,  suspect 
pulmonary edema/???  can't read but looks like  homotherax???
 
significant hemotoma noted at blood draw on neck, no clotting/platelet  
issues likely present
 
will take this report with mehe wrote that I wanted to proceed with  
conservative action until Friday when euthanasia likely.  I did not say  that!  
He 
kept saying I don't know how much you want to spendI asked  him how bad 
it was and what was normal given her status.  HE said  euthanasia is the usual 
and recommended course at this time.
 
interesting and angering...
 
Can anyone shed some light on what the PCV-32 means or anything else in  his 
notes?
 
Dianne



 


Re: Asia, second opinion

2006-11-24 Thread Lernermichelle
 
That's great. Please let us know what happens.
Michelle
 
In a message dated 11/24/2006 11:44:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Have an appointment today at 4 pm with an  oncologist/internal medicine vet 
for evaluation of Asia.  This is a  relief just knowing I can get to Dr. Ward 
today.  Been there before with  dogs and she will tell me the blunt truth.  
Then I can decide what to do  next.
 
Have a friend in NY that is a cancer vet and  radiologist who has now become 
involved and will send test results to him  too.
 
Dianne and  Asia