Re: Dilemma - Mixing (was consistent...)
I have 5 cats, 3 that are older, and 2 that I picked up as kittens two and a half years ago. Just found out both the 2.5 year olds are FeLV+, so I am thinking one of them had it and passed it on to the other one while they were kittens. My 3 older kitties all tested negative on the first test, so its likely they have been exposed for 2.5 years to the virus and managed to throw it off. I'm just trying to decide now if I should vaccinate my older ones. I would think they would have picked it up by now if they were going to get it at all. - Original Message - From: Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 11:10 PM Subject: Re: Dilemma - Mixing (was consistent...) Just wondering who out there has mixed and had negatives turned positive? Thanks... Gloria On Mar 19, 2007, at 9:34 PM, wendy wrote: This is assuming that the unvaccinated cats were not already born with it or carrying it; we seem to never be able to say for sure that that wasn't the case. This virus is SO frustrating sometimes!!! :) Wendy --- Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just a quick point, it is probably safe to mix VACCINATED negatives with your positive. There is at least one list member who had 3 unvaccinated cats turn positive after unknowingly mixing with an felv+... Regards, Beth On 3/19/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donna, A lot of us here mix our positives and negatives, mainly because we did not know we had a positive initially. But once most of us found out, we felt separating the kitties would be more stressful than risking a positive contracting the virus. I don't think many here, if any, have had that happen. I've been a member here for a year and a half. Thus, the general consensus here is that as adult cats, it is difficult to contract the virus. Kittens are much more susceptible, and bite wounds an easier way of contracting. I am not sure what to make of the conflicting test results. We do know that there are a lot of false positives and false negatives, which doesn't help your situation. I've never heard of the PCR Assay test. How many others do you have in your home and how old are they? Do you think they would get along with Elise? :) Wendy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking to the group for experiences on dealing with a cat whose scenario is as written below. I would very much like to hear from anyone who may have experienced, or be currently experiencing, this same thing. Advice and guidance is sought. Here is the dilemma: I have a kitty I rescued at about 12 weeks old around 3 yrs ago. She had a bad uri at the time of rescue but snap combo tested fiv/felv negative. The vet vaccinated her while she will sick with this uri (I wasn't too happy about that myself). I always retest kittens and upon her retest about a month later she came up slight felv+. I had an elisa done which was positive. I had more snap tests done - all of them all came up slight positive. I eventually had an IFA done and a PCR Assay done. The PCR Assay for felv (done with blood, not bone marrow, of course) was negative. All of these tests were done over the course of 2 years (I've had her for 3 yrs now). The last snap combo test I had done - just out of curiosity - was March of last year and that came up slight positive again. Unfortunately, Elise (or Lisee Angel as I call her because she has a big white 'angel' on her back :), has been relegated to the only place I could keep her all this time, which is a relatively small spare bedroom. I had always hoped I'd be able to at least let her integrate at some point with the rest of the house, but her consistent slight felv+ snap combo test worries me too much. Even though the PCR Assay was negative, she keeps testing slight positive on the snap combo test. I am so confused about the more extensive test being negative, but all the lower level tests being positive. I feel so awful that she is stuck in that spare room, and I cannot imagine her having to live her entire life in that one room. I just don't know what else I can do. The dilemma is not really knowing if she is, or is not, felv positive and should she, or should she not, be allowed to integrate with non-positives? Thanks to all, Donna __ __ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. __ __ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545367 __ __ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http
Re: Dilemma - Mixing (was consistent...)
Hi Gloria, I believe it was Bonnie that brought home a false negative kitten that possibly infected 3 of 6 indoor cats. If I remember correctly, one was able to throw the virus and 2 were not and eventually passed. Not sure if the existing cats were healthy adults, or when they had last been tested. Bonnie, if you are out there and this was your experience, can you chime in with more details? Thanks so much! Beth On 3/20/07, Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering who out there has mixed and had negatives turned positive? Thanks... Gloria On Mar 19, 2007, at 9:34 PM, wendy wrote: This is assuming that the unvaccinated cats were not already born with it or carrying it; we seem to never be able to say for sure that that wasn't the case. This virus is SO frustrating sometimes!!! :) Wendy --- Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just a quick point, it is probably safe to mix VACCINATED negatives with your positive. There is at least one list member who had 3 unvaccinated cats turn positive after unknowingly mixing with an felv+... Regards, Beth On 3/19/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donna, A lot of us here mix our positives and negatives, mainly because we did not know we had a positive initially. But once most of us found out, we felt separating the kitties would be more stressful than risking a positive contracting the virus. I don't think many here, if any, have had that happen. I've been a member here for a year and a half. Thus, the general consensus here is that as adult cats, it is difficult to contract the virus. Kittens are much more susceptible, and bite wounds an easier way of contracting. I am not sure what to make of the conflicting test results. We do know that there are a lot of false positives and false negatives, which doesn't help your situation. I've never heard of the PCR Assay test. How many others do you have in your home and how old are they? Do you think they would get along with Elise? :) Wendy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking to the group for experiences on dealing with a cat whose scenario is as written below. I would very much like to hear from anyone who may have experienced, or be currently experiencing, this same thing. Advice and guidance is sought. Here is the dilemma: I have a kitty I rescued at about 12 weeks old around 3 yrs ago. She had a bad uri at the time of rescue but snap combo tested fiv/felv negative. The vet vaccinated her while she will sick with this uri (I wasn't too happy about that myself). I always retest kittens and upon her retest about a month later she came up slight felv+. I had an elisa done which was positive. I had more snap tests done - all of them all came up slight positive. I eventually had an IFA done and a PCR Assay done. The PCR Assay for felv (done with blood, not bone marrow, of course) was negative. All of these tests were done over the course of 2 years (I've had her for 3 yrs now). The last snap combo test I had done - just out of curiosity - was March of last year and that came up slight positive again. Unfortunately, Elise (or Lisee Angel as I call her because she has a big white 'angel' on her back :), has been relegated to the only place I could keep her all this time, which is a relatively small spare bedroom. I had always hoped I'd be able to at least let her integrate at some point with the rest of the house, but her consistent slight felv+ snap combo test worries me too much. Even though the PCR Assay was negative, she keeps testing slight positive on the snap combo test. I am so confused about the more extensive test being negative, but all the lower level tests being positive. I feel so awful that she is stuck in that spare room, and I cannot imagine her having to live her entire life in that one room. I just don't know what else I can do. The dilemma is not really knowing if she is, or is not, felv positive and should she, or should she not, be allowed to integrate with non-positives? Thanks to all, Donna __ __ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. __ __ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545367 __ __ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097
Re: Dilemma - Mixing (was consistent...)
Oh, also, as far as false negatives go, I have had it happen.
Of my 5 rescue kittens, one tested positive at 8 weeks and
four tested negative. When Will Feral spiked a fever at 14
weeks, he retested positive. He had had no contact with
the other positive (or our existing adult cat) since the first test.
He must have still been incubating the virus at the first test.
The others all tested negative the second time. They were
vaccinated and I now mix everyone. Unless somebody
gets sick, I don't think we will do any more testing...
Four kittens (year old next month) are lined up right now on
our half-wall, all staring intently at the tv, (greyhounds on
Animal Planet). They are so darling!
(:o{
Beth
On 3/20/07, Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Gloria,
I believe it was Bonnie that brought home a false negative
kitten that possibly infected 3 of 6 indoor cats. If I remember
correctly, one was able to throw the virus and 2 were not and
eventually passed. Not sure if the existing cats were healthy
adults, or when they had last been tested. Bonnie, if you are
out there and this was your experience, can you chime in with
more details? Thanks so much!
Beth
On 3/20/07, Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just wondering who out there has mixed and had negatives turned
positive?
Thanks...
Gloria
On Mar 19, 2007, at 9:34 PM, wendy wrote:
This is assuming that the unvaccinated cats were not
already born with it or carrying it; we seem to never
be able to say for sure that that wasn't the case.
This virus is SO frustrating sometimes!!!
:)
Wendy
--- Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Just a quick point, it is probably safe to mix
VACCINATED negatives with your positive.
There is at least one list member who had 3
unvaccinated cats turn positive after unknowingly
mixing with an felv+...
Regards,
Beth
On 3/19/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Donna,
A lot of us here mix our positives and negatives,
mainly because we did not know we had a positive
initially. But once most of us found out, we felt
separating the kitties would be more stressful
than
risking a positive contracting the virus. I don't
think many here, if any, have had that happen.
I've
been a member here for a year and a half. Thus,
the
general consensus here is that as adult cats, it
is
difficult to contract the virus. Kittens are much
more susceptible, and bite wounds an easier way of
contracting. I am not sure what to make of the
conflicting test results. We do know that there
are a
lot of false positives and false negatives, which
doesn't help your situation. I've never heard of
the
PCR Assay test. How many others do you have in
your
home and how old are they? Do you think they
would
get along with Elise?
:)
Wendy
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am looking to the group for experiences on
dealing
with
a cat whose scenario is as written below. I
would
very much
like to hear from anyone who may have
experienced,
or be
currently experiencing, this same thing. Advice
and
guidance is sought. Here is the dilemma:
I have a kitty I rescued at about 12 weeks old
around
3 yrs ago. She had a bad uri at the time of
rescue
but
snap combo tested fiv/felv negative. The vet
vaccinated
her while she will sick with this uri (I wasn't
too
happy
about that myself). I always retest kittens and
upon
her
retest about a month later she came up slight
felv+.
I had an elisa done which was positive. I had
more
snap tests done - all of them all came up slight
positive. I eventually had an IFA done and a PCR
Assay
done. The PCR Assay for felv (done with blood,
not
bone marrow, of course) was negative. All of
these
tests were done over the course of 2 years (I've
had
her for 3 yrs now). The last snap combo test I
had
done - just out of curiosity - was March of last
year
and that came up slight positive again.
Unfortunately, Elise (or Lisee Angel as I call
her
because she has a big white 'angel' on her back
:),
has been relegated to the only place I could
keep
her
all this time, which is a relatively small spare
bedroom.
I had always hoped I'd be able to at least let
her
integrate at some point with the rest of the
house,
but her consistent slight felv+ snap combo test
worries me too much. Even though the PCR Assay
was
negative, she keeps testing slight positive on
the
snap combo test. I am so confused about the more
extensive test being negative, but all the lower
level
tests being positive.
I feel so awful that she is stuck in that spare
room,
and I cannot imagine her having to live her
entire
life in that one room. I just don't know what
else I
can do.
The dilemma is not really knowing if she is, or
is
not,
felv positive and should she, or should she not,
be
Re: Dilemma - Mixing (was consistent...)
Just wondering who out there has mixed and had negatives turned positive? Thanks... Gloria On Mar 19, 2007, at 9:34 PM, wendy wrote: This is assuming that the unvaccinated cats were not already born with it or carrying it; we seem to never be able to say for sure that that wasn't the case. This virus is SO frustrating sometimes!!! :) Wendy --- Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just a quick point, it is probably safe to mix VACCINATED negatives with your positive. There is at least one list member who had 3 unvaccinated cats turn positive after unknowingly mixing with an felv+... Regards, Beth On 3/19/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donna, A lot of us here mix our positives and negatives, mainly because we did not know we had a positive initially. But once most of us found out, we felt separating the kitties would be more stressful than risking a positive contracting the virus. I don't think many here, if any, have had that happen. I've been a member here for a year and a half. Thus, the general consensus here is that as adult cats, it is difficult to contract the virus. Kittens are much more susceptible, and bite wounds an easier way of contracting. I am not sure what to make of the conflicting test results. We do know that there are a lot of false positives and false negatives, which doesn't help your situation. I've never heard of the PCR Assay test. How many others do you have in your home and how old are they? Do you think they would get along with Elise? :) Wendy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking to the group for experiences on dealing with a cat whose scenario is as written below. I would very much like to hear from anyone who may have experienced, or be currently experiencing, this same thing. Advice and guidance is sought. Here is the dilemma: I have a kitty I rescued at about 12 weeks old around 3 yrs ago. She had a bad uri at the time of rescue but snap combo tested fiv/felv negative. The vet vaccinated her while she will sick with this uri (I wasn't too happy about that myself). I always retest kittens and upon her retest about a month later she came up slight felv+. I had an elisa done which was positive. I had more snap tests done - all of them all came up slight positive. I eventually had an IFA done and a PCR Assay done. The PCR Assay for felv (done with blood, not bone marrow, of course) was negative. All of these tests were done over the course of 2 years (I've had her for 3 yrs now). The last snap combo test I had done - just out of curiosity - was March of last year and that came up slight positive again. Unfortunately, Elise (or Lisee Angel as I call her because she has a big white 'angel' on her back :), has been relegated to the only place I could keep her all this time, which is a relatively small spare bedroom. I had always hoped I'd be able to at least let her integrate at some point with the rest of the house, but her consistent slight felv+ snap combo test worries me too much. Even though the PCR Assay was negative, she keeps testing slight positive on the snap combo test. I am so confused about the more extensive test being negative, but all the lower level tests being positive. I feel so awful that she is stuck in that spare room, and I cannot imagine her having to live her entire life in that one room. I just don't know what else I can do. The dilemma is not really knowing if she is, or is not, felv positive and should she, or should she not, be allowed to integrate with non-positives? Thanks to all, Donna __ __ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. __ __ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545367 __ __ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097
