Re: Doxy and IR and Epogen, oh my! What to do?

2007-03-25 Thread catatonya
I'm keeping you and Slinky in my prayers.
  tonya

Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all.  First, another brief update on Slinky:
   
  Last night around 2:30 his temp spiked to 106!  We gave him 75 cc's of fluids 
and that seemed to help.  It's been hovering in the 104.3-104.7 range today.  
Still high, but not as scary as 106.  My friend is giving him fluids (both 
sub-q and oral), keeping him on a cold pack, and taking his temp every hour to 
get a good log.  It seems to start rising in the evening and then spike in the 
middle of the night.
   
  Our vet appointment is tomorrow at 5:40.  The challenge I'm trying to sort 
out right now is what the next steps should be.  Based on my own research and 
all the info you guys have been so awesome to provide, it seems like there's 
about 3 options: Epogen to increase the red blood cells, Doxy to treat 
possible Hemobartanella, Immuno Regulin to stimulate his immune system.
   
  The doctor had said she'd consider Epogen if there was some regeneration 
after the transfusion.  She was going to ask around about the IR, and she said 
it wouldn't be wrong to switch to Doxy.  He's out of Baytril now, so I'd like 
to try the Doxy.  The thing is...all of these treatments are going to be 
expensive.  IR isn't too bad...and I could even take him to a cheaper vet to 
get it administered (after the first dose to make sure he doesn't have a big 
reaction).  But I don't know what Doxy and Epogen will cost.  And I'm not sure 
how much my Dad is willing to pay at this point.  
   
  I'm not sure where to draw the line on trying treatments, spending money, 
putting him through all these things, etc.  He's been very lethargic and while 
he seems a LITTLE pinker, he's still very pale.  I mean, if he has no quality 
of life then I don't want to continue to torture him.  But at the same time, 
would the drugs give him back his quality of life?  Maybe?  I don't know?  He's 
still eating (though not drinking as much but will take water via syringe), so 
does that mean he wants to fight?  
   
  Do I do all 3 drugs and see what happens?  Or pick one or two?  If I pick one 
or two, how do I decide?  Or do I do them one at a time and then which do I 
start with?
   
  These are all the things going through my mind right now.  I've got a call in 
to the doctor to talk to her about some of this prior to our appointment (esp. 
since I'd need to order IR if we're going to do it).  I also have to call dad 
and see what he thinks.  But I just don't know how to make these decisions!  I 
feel so ill-equipped for this!  All I know is that he's depending on me and I'm 
responsible for his care...and I have NO clue what to do!!!
   
  Any thoughts, suggestions, or advice on how to move forward would be awesome! 
 Thanks everyone for being such an incredible support network!!  GLOW to all 
your furkids.
   
  MJ

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Doxy and IR and Epogen, oh my! What to do?

2007-03-20 Thread Marissa Johnson
Hi all.  First, another brief update on Slinky:
   
  Last night around 2:30 his temp spiked to 106!  We gave him 75 cc's of fluids 
and that seemed to help.  It's been hovering in the 104.3-104.7 range today.  
Still high, but not as scary as 106.  My friend is giving him fluids (both 
sub-q and oral), keeping him on a cold pack, and taking his temp every hour to 
get a good log.  It seems to start rising in the evening and then spike in the 
middle of the night.
   
  Our vet appointment is tomorrow at 5:40.  The challenge I'm trying to sort 
out right now is what the next steps should be.  Based on my own research and 
all the info you guys have been so awesome to provide, it seems like there's 
about 3 options: Epogen to increase the red blood cells, Doxy to treat 
possible Hemobartanella, Immuno Regulin to stimulate his immune system.
   
  The doctor had said she'd consider Epogen if there was some regeneration 
after the transfusion.  She was going to ask around about the IR, and she said 
it wouldn't be wrong to switch to Doxy.  He's out of Baytril now, so I'd like 
to try the Doxy.  The thing is...all of these treatments are going to be 
expensive.  IR isn't too bad...and I could even take him to a cheaper vet to 
get it administered (after the first dose to make sure he doesn't have a big 
reaction).  But I don't know what Doxy and Epogen will cost.  And I'm not sure 
how much my Dad is willing to pay at this point.  
   
  I'm not sure where to draw the line on trying treatments, spending money, 
putting him through all these things, etc.  He's been very lethargic and while 
he seems a LITTLE pinker, he's still very pale.  I mean, if he has no quality 
of life then I don't want to continue to torture him.  But at the same time, 
would the drugs give him back his quality of life?  Maybe?  I don't know?  He's 
still eating (though not drinking as much but will take water via syringe), so 
does that mean he wants to fight?  
   
  Do I do all 3 drugs and see what happens?  Or pick one or two?  If I pick one 
or two, how do I decide?  Or do I do them one at a time and then which do I 
start with?
   
  These are all the things going through my mind right now.  I've got a call in 
to the doctor to talk to her about some of this prior to our appointment (esp. 
since I'd need to order IR if we're going to do it).  I also have to call dad 
and see what he thinks.  But I just don't know how to make these decisions!  I 
feel so ill-equipped for this!  All I know is that he's depending on me and I'm 
responsible for his care...and I have NO clue what to do!!!
   
  Any thoughts, suggestions, or advice on how to move forward would be awesome! 
 Thanks everyone for being such an incredible support network!!  GLOW to all 
your furkids.
   
  MJ

 
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Re: Doxy and IR and Epogen, oh my! What to do?

2007-03-20 Thread cindy reasoner
Marissa, My Smokey had a terrible time getting high
fevers like your Slinky.  I ended up changing vets for
him.  The new vet gave him IR subq.  I know everything
says to give it IV but it seems to have helped Smokey.
 It has been over a year since his last fever (fingers
crossed).  I was able to give him the shots at home. 
We started twice a week for a few months then went to
once a week to now I give him a shot every other
month.  She also gave him an injection of Winstrol
every other week for about a month or two.  The Doxy
and Epogen I can't help you with because I have never
used them.  I hope this might help you.

Cindy Reasoner

--- Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi all.  First, another brief update on Slinky:

   Last night around 2:30 his temp spiked to 106!  We
 gave him 75 cc's of fluids and that seemed to help. 
 It's been hovering in the 104.3-104.7 range today. 
 Still high, but not as scary as 106.  My friend is
 giving him fluids (both sub-q and oral), keeping him
 on a cold pack, and taking his temp every hour to
 get a good log.  It seems to start rising in the
 evening and then spike in the middle of the night.

   Our vet appointment is tomorrow at 5:40.  The
 challenge I'm trying to sort out right now is what
 the next steps should be.  Based on my own research
 and all the info you guys have been so awesome to
 provide, it seems like there's about 3 options:
 Epogen to increase the red blood cells, Doxy to
 treat possible Hemobartanella, Immuno Regulin to
 stimulate his immune system.

   The doctor had said she'd consider Epogen if there
 was some regeneration after the transfusion.  She
 was going to ask around about the IR, and she said
 it wouldn't be wrong to switch to Doxy.  He's out
 of Baytril now, so I'd like to try the Doxy.  The
 thing is...all of these treatments are going to be
 expensive.  IR isn't too bad...and I could even take
 him to a cheaper vet to get it administered (after
 the first dose to make sure he doesn't have a big
 reaction).  But I don't know what Doxy and Epogen
 will cost.  And I'm not sure how much my Dad is
 willing to pay at this point.  

   I'm not sure where to draw the line on trying
 treatments, spending money, putting him through all
 these things, etc.  He's been very lethargic and
 while he seems a LITTLE pinker, he's still very
 pale.  I mean, if he has no quality of life then I
 don't want to continue to torture him.  But at the
 same time, would the drugs give him back his quality
 of life?  Maybe?  I don't know?  He's still eating
 (though not drinking as much but will take water via
 syringe), so does that mean he wants to fight?  

   Do I do all 3 drugs and see what happens?  Or pick
 one or two?  If I pick one or two, how do I decide? 
 Or do I do them one at a time and then which do I
 start with?

   These are all the things going through my mind
 right now.  I've got a call in to the doctor to talk
 to her about some of this prior to our appointment
 (esp. since I'd need to order IR if we're going to
 do it).  I also have to call dad and see what he
 thinks.  But I just don't know how to make these
 decisions!  I feel so ill-equipped for this!  All I
 know is that he's depending on me and I'm
 responsible for his care...and I have NO clue what
 to do!!!

   Any thoughts, suggestions, or advice on how to
 move forward would be awesome!  Thanks everyone for
 being such an incredible support network!!  GLOW to
 all your furkids.

   MJ
 
  
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Re: Doxy and IR and Epogen, oh my! What to do?

2007-03-20 Thread wendy
Hey Marissa,

In my opinion, the Epogen should be #1 on the list,
and should be affordable.  And I would also do the
doxy.  Both of these should be done at the very least,
or the transfusion will have been for naught.  I can't
say on the IR, but I know we've had at least one
member that uses it for fevers I think, but check on
that.  

I mentioned Slinky's sitation to Michelle Lerner and
she said that the Epogen also works with
non-regenerative anemia.  So you might do a little
more research on that so you are prepared for the vet
tomorrow.  Does the vet know why Slinky keeps having
these fevers?

:)
Wendy


--- Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi all.  First, another brief update on Slinky:

   Last night around 2:30 his temp spiked to 106!  We
 gave him 75 cc's of fluids and that seemed to help. 
 It's been hovering in the 104.3-104.7 range today. 
 Still high, but not as scary as 106.  My friend is
 giving him fluids (both sub-q and oral), keeping him
 on a cold pack, and taking his temp every hour to
 get a good log.  It seems to start rising in the
 evening and then spike in the middle of the night.

   Our vet appointment is tomorrow at 5:40.  The
 challenge I'm trying to sort out right now is what
 the next steps should be.  Based on my own research
 and all the info you guys have been so awesome to
 provide, it seems like there's about 3 options:
 Epogen to increase the red blood cells, Doxy to
 treat possible Hemobartanella, Immuno Regulin to
 stimulate his immune system.

   The doctor had said she'd consider Epogen if there
 was some regeneration after the transfusion.  She
 was going to ask around about the IR, and she said
 it wouldn't be wrong to switch to Doxy.  He's out
 of Baytril now, so I'd like to try the Doxy.  The
 thing is...all of these treatments are going to be
 expensive.  IR isn't too bad...and I could even take
 him to a cheaper vet to get it administered (after
 the first dose to make sure he doesn't have a big
 reaction).  But I don't know what Doxy and Epogen
 will cost.  And I'm not sure how much my Dad is
 willing to pay at this point.  

   I'm not sure where to draw the line on trying
 treatments, spending money, putting him through all
 these things, etc.  He's been very lethargic and
 while he seems a LITTLE pinker, he's still very
 pale.  I mean, if he has no quality of life then I
 don't want to continue to torture him.  But at the
 same time, would the drugs give him back his quality
 of life?  Maybe?  I don't know?  He's still eating
 (though not drinking as much but will take water via
 syringe), so does that mean he wants to fight?  

   Do I do all 3 drugs and see what happens?  Or pick
 one or two?  If I pick one or two, how do I decide? 
 Or do I do them one at a time and then which do I
 start with?

   These are all the things going through my mind
 right now.  I've got a call in to the doctor to talk
 to her about some of this prior to our appointment
 (esp. since I'd need to order IR if we're going to
 do it).  I also have to call dad and see what he
 thinks.  But I just don't know how to make these
 decisions!  I feel so ill-equipped for this!  All I
 know is that he's depending on me and I'm
 responsible for his care...and I have NO clue what
 to do!!!

   Any thoughts, suggestions, or advice on how to
 move forward would be awesome!  Thanks everyone for
 being such an incredible support network!!  GLOW to
 all your furkids.

   MJ
 
  
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