RE: OT: need advise again

2005-04-06 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
Hideyo,
I am pulling for ya, good luck, keep up informed.Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:









One of my corona virus positive cats, Simon who is about 7 or 8 years stopped eating since last Friday night all of sudden and he started hiding all of sudden – with all of my corona virus positive cats with unknown cause of illness, the first place I go is usually “oh my gosh, it’s FIP – and I freak out.

Anyway, yesterday I took him to the vet, I was worried how we were going to diagnose him since he is sort of feral and never held him, but he did so well. He just wanted to hide in my jacket, but did very well. Anyway, he did not have a fever which is a good thing and there was no abnormality in tummy area as far as the vet could tell. His inside mouth looked pretty good, too. The blood work came back all normal except that he had a very high total bilirubin of 4.6 (the normal range is between 0.1 and 0.4) – any other liver/kidney measurement was normal. He did have higher protein level with higher globulin – but I also know that it can be caused by dehydration, too. But the vet was not sure what was causing him an illness. 

After a shot of penicillin and I also gave him 100ml of fluid, he seems to be feeling a little bit better since he was not hiding this morning and even went outside for a while last night. He also tried to eat a bit. Any idea what’s wrong with him?

Regardless, please pray that he will get better soon – he is already getting skinny (in his hip and hind leg area) and am worried.
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonyaSent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:13 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: OT: UPDATE ON THOR


I have a cat that does that because of allergies (ears). He is negative and usually gets pred. when it happens.



tonyaCherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi All

Ok Thor ate some yesterday and now is back to not eating, it is so spuratic I do not know what to think. There is no blood colored discharge from his mouth at all today, I was thinking maybe he is loosing a tooth, but he is still too young he is only 14 weeks old, I am just taking him day by day now.



Amber my FeLV positive also seems to be having an ear problem, she scratched it so muchthe hair is gone and now there is a scabchecked for ear mites, she is clean, checked for ear infection, again she is clean, any thoughts?



Thanks all

Cherie





RE: OT: need advise again

2005-04-05 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








One of my corona virus positive cats, Simon
who is about 7 or 8 years stopped eating since last Friday night all of sudden and
he started hiding all of sudden  with all of my corona virus positive
cats with unknown cause of illness, the first place I go is usually oh
my gosh, its FIP  and I freak out.



Anyway, yesterday I took him to the vet, I
was worried how we were going to diagnose him since he is sort of feral and
never held him, but he did so well.
He just wanted to hide in my jacket, but did very well. Anyway, he did not have a fever which is
a good thing and there was no abnormality in tummy area as far as the vet could
tell. His inside mouth looked
pretty good, too. The blood work came back all normal except that he had a very
high total bilirubin of 4.6 (the normal range is between 0.1 and 0.4) 
any other liver/kidney measurement was normal. He did have higher protein level with
higher globulin  but I also know that it can be caused by dehydration,
too. But the vet was not sure what
was causing him an illness. 



After a shot of penicillin and I also gave
him 100ml of fluid, he seems to be feeling a little bit better since he was not
hiding this morning and even went outside for a while last night. He also tried to eat a bit. Any idea whats wrong with him?



Regardless, please pray that he will get
better soon  he is already getting skinny (in his hip and hind leg area)
and am worried.

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Subject: Re: OT: UPDATE ON THOR





I have a cat that does that because of allergies
(ears). He is negative and usually gets pred. when it happens.











tonya

Cherie A Gabbert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







Hi All





Ok Thor ate some yesterday and now is back to not
eating, it is so spuratic I do not know what to think. There is no blood
colored discharge from his mouth at all today, I was thinking maybe he is
loosing a tooth, but he is still too young he is only 14 weeks old, I am just
taking him day by day now.











Amber my FeLV positive also seems to be having an ear
problem, she scratched it so muchthe hair is gone and now there is a
scabchecked for ear mites, she is clean, checked for ear infection, again
she is clean, any thoughts?











Thanks all





Cherie
























Re: OT: need advise again

2005-04-05 Thread Kerry MacKenzie



Dear Hideyo
I don't have enough experience to know what may be wrong, but 
I am sending lots of positive healing vibes for Simon. Are you assist 
feedinghim? Or trying an appetite stimulant? Catnip isone appetite 
stimulant I believe, and I know there are others that have been mentioned on the 
list. I'm sure you know and are doing all this already. Also, if he doesn't 
improve, unless you totally totally trust your vet, I wouldsee another vet 
and hope to get a diagnosis. Sorry I can't offer any suggestions as to what it 
may be, Hideyo but I'm sure others will pitch in. Big hugs to the little 
sweetheart, hope he continues to improve ~~love and hugs to you 
too,Kerry


- Original Message - 

  From: 
  Hideyo Yamamoto 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:46 
  PM
  Subject: RE: OT: need advise again
  
  
  One of my corona 
  virus positive cats, Simon who is about 7 or 8 years stopped eating since last 
  Friday night all of sudden and he started hiding all of sudden  with all of 
  my corona virus positive cats with unknown cause of illness, the first place I 
  go is usually oh my gosh, its FIP  and I freak 
  out.
  
  Anyway, yesterday I 
  took him to the vet, I was worried how we were going to diagnose him since he 
  is sort of feral and never held him, but he did so well. He just wanted to hide in my jacket, 
  but did very well. Anyway, he did 
  not have a fever which is a good thing and there was no abnormality in tummy 
  area as far as the vet could tell. 
  His inside mouth looked pretty good, too. The blood work came back all 
  normal except that he had a very high total bilirubin of 4.6 (the normal range 
  is between 0.1 and 0.4)  any other liver/kidney measurement was normal. He did have higher protein level with 
  higher globulin  but I also know that it can be caused by dehydration, 
  too. But the vet was not sure 
  what was causing him an illness. 
  
  
  After a shot of 
  penicillin and I also gave him 100ml of fluid, he seems to be feeling a little 
  bit better since he was not hiding this morning and even went outside for a 
  while last night. He also tried 
  to eat a bit. Any idea whats 
  wrong with him?
  
  Regardless, please 
  pray that he will get better soon  he is already getting skinny (in his hip 
  and hind leg area) and am worried.
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  Message-From: 
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonyaSent: Tuesday, April 05, 
  2005 4:13 
  PMTo: 
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: OT: UPDATE ON 
  THOR
  
  
  I have a cat that does that because of 
  allergies (ears). He is negative and usually gets pred. when it 
  happens.
  
  
  
  tonyaCherie A Gabbert 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  

Hi 
All

Ok Thor ate some yesterday and now is 
back to not eating, it is so spuratic I do not know what to think. There is 
no blood colored discharge from his mouth at all today, I was thinking maybe 
he is loosing a tooth, but he is still too young he is only 14 weeks old, I 
am just taking him day by day now.



Amber my FeLV positive also seems to be 
having an ear problem, she scratched it so muchthe hair is gone and now 
there is a scabchecked for ear mites, she is clean, checked for ear 
infection, again she is clean, any 
thoughts?



Thanks 
all

Cherie






RE: OT: need advise again

2005-04-05 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto









Thank you, Kerry. Simon and I appreciate your thought very
much. If he doesnt seem to
want to eat again tonight  I will definitely try to assist feed him  The vet gave him some V-B shot,
hoping that it might help his appetite  but I will try the cat nip also. I first thought it was impossible to
give him fluid (not knowing how feral he is  shame on me, I now have had
him for 3 years, and still did not know), but I put a carrier in the bathroom
and opened the carrier, and he just sat there without resisting to it, as I
gave him fluid and some vitamin liquid with syringe  

Its hard not to know whats
bothering them, and I wish I could tell so that I can do everything I can to
make him feel better.



Again, thank you so much, Kerry, you are
so kind, as always.



Hideyo



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kerry MacKenzie
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:47 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: OT: need advise again





Dear Hideyo





I don't have enough experience to know what may be
wrong, but I am sending lots of positive healing vibes for Simon. Are you
assist feedinghim? Or trying an appetite stimulant? Catnip isone
appetite stimulant I believe, and I know there are others that have been
mentioned on the list. I'm sure you know and are doing all this already. Also,
if he doesn't improve, unless you totally totally trust your vet, I
wouldsee another vet and hope to get a diagnosis. Sorry I can't offer any
suggestions as to what it may be, Hideyo but I'm sure others will pitch in. Big
hugs to the little sweetheart, hope he continues to improve ~~love and hugs to
you too,Kerry

















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From: Hideyo Yamamoto 





To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org






Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:46 PM





Subject: RE: OT:
need advise again









One of my corona virus
positive cats, Simon who is about 7 or 8 years stopped eating since last Friday
night all of sudden and he started hiding all of sudden  with all of my
corona virus positive cats with unknown cause of illness, the first place I go
is usually oh my gosh, its FIP  and I freak out.



Anyway, yesterday I took
him to the vet, I was worried how we were going to diagnose him since he is
sort of feral and never held him, but he did so well. He just wanted to hide in my jacket, but
did very well. Anyway, he did not
have a fever which is a good thing and there was no abnormality in tummy area
as far as the vet could tell. His
inside mouth looked pretty good, too. The blood work came back all normal
except that he had a very high total bilirubin of 4.6 (the normal range is
between 0.1 and 0.4)  any other liver/kidney measurement was
normal. He did have higher protein
level with higher globulin  but I also know that it can be caused by
dehydration, too. But the vet was
not sure what was causing him an illness.




After a shot of
penicillin and I also gave him 100ml of fluid, he seems to be feeling a little
bit better since he was not hiding this morning and even went outside for a
while last night. He also tried to
eat a bit. Any idea whats
wrong with him?



Regardless, please pray
that he will get better soon  he is already getting skinny (in his hip
and hind leg area) and am worried.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of catatonya
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:13 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: OT: UPDATE ON THOR





I have a cat that does that because of allergies
(ears). He is negative and usually gets pred. when it happens.











tonya

Cherie A Gabbert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







Hi All





Ok Thor ate some yesterday and now is back to not
eating, it is so spuratic I do not know what to think. There is no blood
colored discharge from his mouth at all today, I was thinking maybe he is
loosing a tooth, but he is still too young he is only 14 weeks old, I am just
taking him day by day now.











Amber my FeLV positive also seems to be having an ear
problem, she scratched it so muchthe hair is gone and now there is a
scabchecked for ear mites, she is clean, checked for ear infection, again
she is clean, any thoughts?











Thanks all





Cherie


























RE: OT: need advise again

2005-04-05 Thread Kathy Gittel
I had 4 corona virus+ cats. They all lived long and normal lives and 
never developed FIP, so I think you should stop worrying quite so much 
about all of that.

Every once in a while, for no apparent reason, one of them would get 
far too quiet and stop eating. After trying many other treatments, I 
finally, on the advice of my Vet, simply gave prednisone for a week or 
two to whomever was behaving this way. The corona virus seems to cause 
inflammation and the prednisone gets rid of it. I also force fed when 
necessary. None of those cats ever got plump. From time to time one of 
them would get pretty skinny, but they made it through their lives 
happily and FIP-free.
Kathy

:  One of my corona virus positive cats, Simon who is about 7 or 8 
years stopped eating since last Friday night all of sudden and he 
started hiding all of sudden - with all of my corona virus positive 
cats with unknown cause of illness, the first place I go is usually 
oh my gosh, it's FIP - and I freak out.
:
:  Anyway, yesterday I took him to the vet, I was worried how we were 
going to diagnose him since he is sort of feral and never held him, 
but he did so well.  He just wanted to hide in my jacket, but did very 
well.  Anyway, he did not have a fever which is a good thing and there 
was no abnormality in tummy area as far as the vet could tell.  His 
inside mouth looked pretty good, too. The blood work came back all 
normal except that he had a very high total bilirubin of 4.6 (the 
normal range is between 0.1 and 0.4) - any other liver/kidney 
measurement was normal.  He did have higher protein level with higher 
globulin - but I also know that it can be caused by dehydration, too. 
But the vet was not sure what was causing him an illness.

:  After a shot of penicillin and I also gave him 100ml of fluid, he 
seems to be feeling a little bit better since he was not hiding this 
morning and even went outside for a while last night.  He also tried 
to eat a bit.  Any idea what's wrong with him?
:  Regardless, please pray that he will get better soon - he is 
already getting skinny (in his hip and hind leg area) and am worried.