Re: Problem - I think?- aloe

2005-06-08 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Good point, a few years back I researched that.  But it turned out that 
only one part of the aloe plant is toxic to cats, and then if ingested in 
large quantities.  A part of it is a strong purgative.  People can be 
sensitive too.  And related to skin reactions, in older plants, there's an 
inner part that  the skin can  *sometimes* be sensitive to.


However,  the aloe you buy in different formulations in the stores is 
processed in various ways and doesn't consist of the entire plant, 
generally  - some are gel and some are juice, and some are made from 
those, and some have additives.  Some have sodium benzoate added, for 
example, which is also a no-no for cats.But they don't consist of the 
entire plant.  Consequently, it's not really true that anything with a 
piece of aloe in it is poisonous to cats.  It does deserve some thought and 
questioning.


As a result of my reading, I bought George's liquid aloe vera and do give 
it to my cats orally on occasion, mixed with Lysine or Vitamin C, in my 
situation.  I also use an aloe cream very occasionally, don't remember the 
kind - as I use the  homeopathic arnica more often.  And of course, I don't 
feed cats the raw plant (or me either),  much less large quantities, not 
that the little buggers would eat it, and I don't use the raw plant 
topically.  There are several other brands besides Georges that are 
perfectly safe, as are the creams, I just got into a habit of buying Georges.


Perhaps someone here has more info - it's been a while for me, but that's 
my recollection.


Best of luck -

Gloria




At 12:03 PM 6/8/2005, you wrote:
Aloe, ingested is deadly to cats! -at least the aloe plant is and if the 
cat is festidious about getting it off  Prob. not a good idea, sorry 
Nina, unless you can restrain the cat for a day or so after treatment to 
make certain it does not wipe off and lick paw!


Tea Tree oil, in small amounts, applied daily, is very healing for the 
skin - human and animal- but check with vet first.


You would be better off with Neosporien (sp?) or call the vet for an over 
the counter topical you can apply that won't be too bad if licked off.


Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cherie,
Just how bad are these sores? If you're not too worried about
infection, I'd use aloe first. Make sure you get the aloe gel that's
100% aloe with no additives, (read those labels!). That way if she
licks at it, there's no harm. I used aloe when Gypsy had sores and it
helped. Have you called your vet about this yet?
Nina

Cherie A Gabbert wrote:

 Thanks Gloria, she can keep her food down, she is just very finicky
 and very small, she is a Silver Persian and they are very small boned,
 I was just worried when I saw the sores, Would you use Neosporin?
 Cherie



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Re: Problem - I think?- aloe

2005-06-08 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
Neosporin or Tree Tee Oil, sound good to me so far, but thanks for all the input you guys I knew I could count on you
Cherie"Gloria B. Lane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good point, a few years back I researched that. But it turned out that only one part of the aloe plant is toxic to cats, and then if ingested in large quantities. A part of it is a strong purgative. People can be sensitive too. And related to skin reactions, in older plants, there's an inner part that the skin can *sometimes* be sensitive to.However, the aloe you buy in different formulations in the stores is processed in various ways and doesn't consist of the entire plant, generally - some are "gel" and some are "juice", and some are made from those, and some have additives. Some have sodium benzoate added, for example, which is also a no-no for cats. But they don't consist of the entire plant. Consequently, it's not really true that anything with a piece of aloe in it is poisonous to cats. It does deserve some thought and
 questioning.As a result of my reading, I bought George's liquid aloe vera and do give it to my cats orally on occasion, mixed with Lysine or Vitamin C, in my situation. I also use an aloe cream very occasionally, don't remember the kind - as I use the homeopathic arnica more often. And of course, I don't feed cats the raw plant (or me either), much less large quantities, not that the little buggers would eat it, and I don't use the raw plant topically. There are several other brands besides Georges that are perfectly safe, as are the creams, I just got into a habit of buying Georges.Perhaps someone here has more info - it's been a while for me, but that's my recollection.Best of luck -GloriaAt 12:03 PM 6/8/2005, you wrote:Aloe, ingested is deadly to cats! -at least the aloe plant is and if the cat is festidious about getting it off Prob. not a good idea, sorry Nina,
 unless you can restrain the cat for a day or so after treatment to make certain it does not wipe off and lick paw!Tea Tree oil, in small amounts, applied daily, is very healing for the skin - human and animal- but check with vet first.You would be better off with Neosporien (sp?) or call the vet for an over the counter topical you can apply that won't be too bad if licked off.Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Cherie,Just how bad are these sores? If you're not too worried aboutinfection, I'd use aloe first. Make sure you get the aloe gel that's100% aloe with no additives, (read those labels!). That way if shelicks at it, there's no harm. I used aloe when Gypsy had sores and ithelped. Have you called your vet about this yet?NinaCherie A Gabbert wrote:  Thanks Gloria, she can keep her food down, she is just very
 finicky  and very small, she is a Silver Persian and they are very small boned,  I was just worried when I saw the sores, Would you use Neosporin?  Cherie__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection aroundhttp://mail.yahoo.comHave a purrfect day
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Re: Problem - I think?- aloe

2005-06-08 Thread Nina
The brand of aloe gel I got for Gypsy is Lily of the Desert.  No 
artificial colorings, no fragrance, no animal dirivatives, non animal 
tested.  Ingredients 99.5% certified organic aloe vera gel, carbomer 
940, (whatever the heck that is), Vita A,C, and E.  I found it at Whole 
Foods Market.
Nina 


Gloria B. Lane wrote:

Good point, a few years back I researched that.  But it turned out 
that only one part of the aloe plant is toxic to cats, and then if 
ingested in large quantities.  A part of it is a strong purgative.  
People can be sensitive too.  And related to skin reactions, in older 
plants, there's an inner part that  the skin can  *sometimes* be 
sensitive to.


However,  the aloe you buy in different formulations in the stores is 
processed in various ways and doesn't consist of the entire plant, 
generally  - some are gel and some are juice, and some are made 
from those, and some have additives.  Some have sodium benzoate added, 
for example, which is also a no-no for cats.But they don't consist 
of the entire plant.  Consequently, it's not really true that anything 
with a piece of aloe in it is poisonous to cats.  It does deserve some 
thought and questioning.


As a result of my reading, I bought George's liquid aloe vera and do 
give it to my cats orally on occasion, mixed with Lysine or Vitamin C, 
in my situation.  I also use an aloe cream very occasionally, don't 
remember the kind - as I use the  homeopathic arnica more often.  And 
of course, I don't feed cats the raw plant (or me either),  much less 
large quantities, not that the little buggers would eat it, and I 
don't use the raw plant topically.  There are several other brands 
besides Georges that are perfectly safe, as are the creams, I just got 
into a habit of buying Georges.


Perhaps someone here has more info - it's been a while for me, but 
that's my recollection.


Best of luck -

Gloria




At 12:03 PM 6/8/2005, you wrote:

Aloe, ingested is deadly to cats! -at least the aloe plant is and if 
the cat is festidious about getting it off  Prob. not a good 
idea, sorry Nina, unless you can restrain the cat for a day or so 
after treatment to make certain it does not wipe off and lick paw!


Tea Tree oil, in small amounts, applied daily, is very healing for 
the skin - human and animal- but check with vet first.


You would be better off with Neosporien (sp?) or call the vet for an 
over the counter topical you can apply that won't be too bad if 
licked off.


Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cherie,
Just how bad are these sores? If you're not too worried about
infection, I'd use aloe first. Make sure you get the aloe gel that's
100% aloe with no additives, (read those labels!). That way if she
licks at it, there's no harm. I used aloe when Gypsy had sores and it
helped. Have you called your vet about this yet?
Nina

Cherie A Gabbert wrote:

 Thanks Gloria, she can keep her food down, she is just very finicky
 and very small, she is a Silver Persian and they are very small boned,
 I was just worried when I saw the sores, Would you use Neosporin?
 Cherie



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Re: Problem - I think?- aloe

2005-06-08 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
Thank you again...you guys are the best ;-))Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The brand of aloe gel I got for Gypsy is "Lily of the Desert". No artificial colorings, no fragrance, no animal dirivatives, non animal tested. Ingredients 99.5% certified organic aloe vera gel, carbomer 940, (whatever the heck that is), Vita A,C, and E. I found it at Whole Foods Market.Nina Gloria B. Lane wrote: Good point, a few years back I researched that. But it turned out  that only one part of the aloe plant is toxic to cats, and then if  ingested in large quantities. A part of it is a strong purgative.  People can be sensitive too. And related to skin reactions, in older  plants, there's an inner part that the skin can *sometimes* be  sensitive to. However, the aloe you buy in different formulations in the stores is  processed in various ways and doesn't consist of the
 entire plant,  generally - some are "gel" and some are "juice", and some are made  from those, and some have additives. Some have sodium benzoate added,  for example, which is also a no-no for cats. But they don't consist  of the entire plant. Consequently, it's not really true that anything  with a piece of aloe in it is poisonous to cats. It does deserve some  thought and questioning. As a result of my reading, I bought George's liquid aloe vera and do  give it to my cats orally on occasion, mixed with Lysine or Vitamin C,  in my situation. I also use an aloe cream very occasionally, don't  remember the kind - as I use the homeopathic arnica more often. And  of course, I don't feed cats the raw plant (or me either), much less  large quantities, not that the little buggers would eat it, and I  don't use the raw plant topically. There are several other brands 
 besides Georges that are perfectly safe, as are the creams, I just got  into a habit of buying Georges. Perhaps someone here has more info - it's been a while for me, but  that's my recollection. Best of luck - Gloria At 12:03 PM 6/8/2005, you wrote: Aloe, ingested is deadly to cats! -at least the aloe plant is and if  the cat is festidious about getting it off Prob. not a good  idea, sorry Nina, unless you can restrain the cat for a day or so  after treatment to make certain it does not wipe off and lick paw! Tea Tree oil, in small amounts, applied daily, is very healing for  the skin - human and animal- but check with vet first. You would be better off with Neosporien (sp?) or call the vet for an  over the counter topical you can apply that won't be
 too bad if  licked off. Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Cherie, Just how bad are these sores? If you're not too worried about infection, I'd use aloe first. Make sure you get the aloe gel that's 100% aloe with no additives, (read those labels!). That way if she licks at it, there's no harm. I used aloe when Gypsy had sores and it helped. Have you called your vet about this yet? Nina Cherie A Gabbert wrote:  Thanks Gloria, she can keep her food down, she is just very finicky  and very small, she is a Silver Persian and they are very small boned,  I was just worried when I saw the sores, Would you use Neosporin?  Cherie __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of
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Re: Problem - I think?- aloe

2005-06-08 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Well, actually, Tea Tree Oil is not something you want to use 
casually.  While it does have it's uses, there are cases of it being 
harmful.  Might look around the pet store, or health food store.  Arnica 
Cream is still my favorite, but they may have some kind of combo cream.


Gloria

At 01:16 PM 6/8/2005, you wrote:
Neosporin or Tree Tee Oil, sound good to me so far, but thanks for all the 
input you guys I knew I could count on you

Cherie

Gloria B. Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good point, a few years back I researched that. But it turned out that
only one part of the aloe plant is toxic to cats, and then if ingested in
large quantities. A part of it is a strong purgative. People can be
sensitive too. And related to skin reactions, in older plants, there's an
inner part that the skin can *sometimes* be sensitive to.

However, the aloe you buy in different formulations in the stores is
processed in various ways and doesn't consist of the entire plant,
generally - some are gel and some are juice, and some are made from
those, and some have additives. Some have sodium benzoate added, for
example, which is also a no-no for cats. But they don't consist of the
entire plant. Consequently, it's not really true that anything with a
piece of aloe in it is poisonous to cats. It does deserve some thought and
questioning.

As a result of my reading, I bought George's liquid aloe vera and do give
it to my cats orally on occasion, mixed with Lysine or Vitamin C, in my
situation. I also use an aloe cream very occasionally, don't remember the
kind - as I use the homeopathic arnica more often. And of course, I don't
feed cats the raw plant (or me either), much less large quantities, not
that the little buggers would eat it, and I don't use the raw plant
topically. There are several other brands besides Georges that are
perfectly safe, as are the creams, I just got into a habit of buying Georges.

Perhaps someone here has more info - it's been a while for me, but that's
my recollection.

Best of luck -

Gloria




At 12:03 PM 6/8/2005, you wrote:
Aloe, ingested is deadly to cats! -at least the aloe plant is and if the
cat is festidious about getting it off Prob. not a good idea, sorry
Nina, unless you can restrain the cat for a day or so after treatment to
make certain it does not wipe off and lick paw!

Tea Tree oil, in small amounts, applied daily, is very healing for the
skin - human and animal- but check with vet first.

You would be better off with Neosporien (sp?) or call the vet for an over
the counter topical you can apply that won't be too bad if licked off.

Nina wrote:
Cherie,
Just how bad are these sores? If you're not too worried about
infection, I'd use aloe first. Make sure you get the aloe gel that's
100% aloe with no additives, (read those labels!). That way if she
licks at it, there's no harm. I used aloe when Gypsy had sores and it
helped. Have you called your vet about this yet?
Nina

Cherie A Gabbert wrote:

  Thanks Gloria, she can keep her food down, she is just very finicky
  and very small, she is a Silver Persian and they are very small boned,
  I was just worried when I saw the sores, Would you use Neosporin?
  Cherie



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RE: Problem - I think?- aloe

2005-06-08 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
I use the same brand - and I give it to Ginger every day with other
supplements (TF, reishi and maitake mushrooms, DMG, Vitamns, astrogas,
CQ10, and etc...) it's ok to give to every day though, right?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 12:29 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Problem - I think?- aloe

The brand of aloe gel I got for Gypsy is Lily of the Desert.  No 
artificial colorings, no fragrance, no animal dirivatives, non animal 
tested.  Ingredients 99.5% certified organic aloe vera gel, carbomer 
940, (whatever the heck that is), Vita A,C, and E.  I found it at Whole 
Foods Market.
Nina 

Gloria B. Lane wrote:

 Good point, a few years back I researched that.  But it turned out 
 that only one part of the aloe plant is toxic to cats, and then if 
 ingested in large quantities.  A part of it is a strong purgative.  
 People can be sensitive too.  And related to skin reactions, in older 
 plants, there's an inner part that  the skin can  *sometimes* be 
 sensitive to.

 However,  the aloe you buy in different formulations in the stores is 
 processed in various ways and doesn't consist of the entire plant, 
 generally  - some are gel and some are juice, and some are made 
 from those, and some have additives.  Some have sodium benzoate added,

 for example, which is also a no-no for cats.But they don't consist

 of the entire plant.  Consequently, it's not really true that anything

 with a piece of aloe in it is poisonous to cats.  It does deserve some

 thought and questioning.

 As a result of my reading, I bought George's liquid aloe vera and do 
 give it to my cats orally on occasion, mixed with Lysine or Vitamin C,

 in my situation.  I also use an aloe cream very occasionally, don't 
 remember the kind - as I use the  homeopathic arnica more often.  And 
 of course, I don't feed cats the raw plant (or me either),  much less 
 large quantities, not that the little buggers would eat it, and I 
 don't use the raw plant topically.  There are several other brands 
 besides Georges that are perfectly safe, as are the creams, I just got

 into a habit of buying Georges.

 Perhaps someone here has more info - it's been a while for me, but 
 that's my recollection.

 Best of luck -

 Gloria




 At 12:03 PM 6/8/2005, you wrote:

 Aloe, ingested is deadly to cats! -at least the aloe plant is and if 
 the cat is festidious about getting it off  Prob. not a good 
 idea, sorry Nina, unless you can restrain the cat for a day or so 
 after treatment to make certain it does not wipe off and lick paw!

 Tea Tree oil, in small amounts, applied daily, is very healing for 
 the skin - human and animal- but check with vet first.

 You would be better off with Neosporien (sp?) or call the vet for an 
 over the counter topical you can apply that won't be too bad if 
 licked off.

 Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cherie,
 Just how bad are these sores? If you're not too worried about
 infection, I'd use aloe first. Make sure you get the aloe gel that's
 100% aloe with no additives, (read those labels!). That way if she
 licks at it, there's no harm. I used aloe when Gypsy had sores and it
 helped. Have you called your vet about this yet?
 Nina

 Cherie A Gabbert wrote:

  Thanks Gloria, she can keep her food down, she is just very finicky
  and very small, she is a Silver Persian and they are very small
boned,
  I was just worried when I saw the sores, Would you use Neosporin?
  Cherie



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Re: Problem - I think?- aloe

2005-06-08 Thread Nina

Hideyo,
I was using the aloe gel topically for Gypsy.  Are you giving Ginger 
Aloe liquid every day?  I had been giving DMG to my +s, but haven't in a 
while.  I also give TF stress formula when anyone is showing symptoms, 
and I just ordered some feline TF for more regular supplementation.  
Sally just told me about a specific mushroom she was reading about with 
immune boosting properties, but she was having brain freeze while I was 
talking to her and couldn't remember the name.  She's going to send me 
copies of research she did on it, I'll pass it on when I get it.  So, I 
guess to answer your question...  I don't know if giving aloe everyday 
is okay, or not.  My first guess would be that it is, I gave it to my 
husband, (among an incredibly long list of other remedies), while he was 
recuperating from a bad car accident, but I can't say for sure.  Did you 
look on Kat's website, or do any research about it?  Let me know.

Nina

Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:


I use the same brand - and I give it to Ginger every day with other
supplements (TF, reishi and maitake mushrooms, DMG, Vitamns, astrogas,
CQ10, and etc...) it's ok to give to every day though, right?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 12:29 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Problem - I think?- aloe

The brand of aloe gel I got for Gypsy is Lily of the Desert.  No 
artificial colorings, no fragrance, no animal dirivatives, non animal 
tested.  Ingredients 99.5% certified organic aloe vera gel, carbomer 
940, (whatever the heck that is), Vita A,C, and E.  I found it at Whole 
Foods Market.
Nina 


Gloria B. Lane wrote:

 

Good point, a few years back I researched that.  But it turned out 
that only one part of the aloe plant is toxic to cats, and then if 
ingested in large quantities.  A part of it is a strong purgative.  
People can be sensitive too.  And related to skin reactions, in older 
plants, there's an inner part that  the skin can  *sometimes* be 
sensitive to.


However,  the aloe you buy in different formulations in the stores is 
processed in various ways and doesn't consist of the entire plant, 
generally  - some are gel and some are juice, and some are made 
from those, and some have additives.  Some have sodium benzoate added,
   



 


for example, which is also a no-no for cats.But they don't consist
   



 


of the entire plant.  Consequently, it's not really true that anything
   



 


with a piece of aloe in it is poisonous to cats.  It does deserve some
   



 


thought and questioning.

As a result of my reading, I bought George's liquid aloe vera and do 
give it to my cats orally on occasion, mixed with Lysine or Vitamin C,
   



 

in my situation.  I also use an aloe cream very occasionally, don't 
remember the kind - as I use the  homeopathic arnica more often.  And 
of course, I don't feed cats the raw plant (or me either),  much less 
large quantities, not that the little buggers would eat it, and I 
don't use the raw plant topically.  There are several other brands 
besides Georges that are perfectly safe, as are the creams, I just got
   



 


into a habit of buying Georges.

Perhaps someone here has more info - it's been a while for me, but 
that's my recollection.


Best of luck -

Gloria




At 12:03 PM 6/8/2005, you wrote:

   

Aloe, ingested is deadly to cats! -at least the aloe plant is and if 
the cat is festidious about getting it off  Prob. not a good 
idea, sorry Nina, unless you can restrain the cat for a day or so 
after treatment to make certain it does not wipe off and lick paw!


Tea Tree oil, in small amounts, applied daily, is very healing for 
the skin - human and animal- but check with vet first.


You would be better off with Neosporien (sp?) or call the vet for an 
over the counter topical you can apply that won't be too bad if 
licked off.


Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cherie,
Just how bad are these sores? If you're not too worried about
infection, I'd use aloe first. Make sure you get the aloe gel that's
100% aloe with no additives, (read those labels!). That way if she
licks at it, there's no harm. I used aloe when Gypsy had sores and it
helped. Have you called your vet about this yet?
Nina

Cherie A Gabbert wrote:

 


Thanks Gloria, she can keep her food down, she is just very finicky
and very small, she is a Silver Persian and they are very small
   


boned,
 


I was just worried when I saw the sores, Would you use Neosporin?
Cherie
   



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