Re: FIP diagnosis?
Lucy has it with other symptoms, and either has FIP or toxoplasmosis or something like that. Without looking at the fluid there is no way for them to say it is definitely FIP, and if it is FIP she needs steroids more than antibiotics to control the symptoms. I would get her to a bigger vet hospital, vet school hospital, or veterinary referral service to see an internist. There are other things that can distend a stomach besides FIP. Michelle In a message dated 1/24/2007 1:37:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just came home from the vet. Yesterday morning, I noticed that Jilly, my 6 month old foster's stomach had bloated out. Looeds like she had swallowed a water balloon. They said it was all fluid, but couldn't get a sample. They tried and tried. Took x-ray, used a sonogram probe. All fluid. She is acting fine. But they said she might have only a very short time--maybe days. They seem sure it's FIP. They gave me Baytril and said if by some miracle, she's alive in 7 days, come back and get more. Anyone have experience with sudden distension of the stomach?
Re: FIP diagnosis?
Do get her to a bigger vet hospital. FIP is very hard to diagnose and really cannot be diagnosed except by necropsy after an animal has died. Bloodwork and analysis of the fluid can tell you if findings are consistent with FIP but there are other curable causes of the distended belly. Hope for one of those. FIP is always fatal. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Lucy has it with other symptoms, and either has FIP or toxoplasmosis or something like that. Without looking at the fluid there is no way for them to say it is definitely FIP, and if it is FIP she needs steroids more than antibiotics to control the symptoms. I would get her to a bigger vet hospital, vet school hospital, or veterinary referral service to see an internist. There are other things that can distend a stomach besides FIP. Michelle In a message dated 1/24/2007 1:37:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just came home from the vet. Yesterday morning, I noticed that Jilly, my 6 month old foster's stomach had bloated out. Looeds like she had swallowed a water balloon. They said it was all fluid, but couldn't get a sample. They tried and tried. Took x-ray, used a sonogram probe. All fluid. She is acting fine. But they said she might have only a very short time--maybe days. They seem sure it's FIP. They gave me Baytril and said if by some miracle, she's alive in 7 days, come back and get more. Anyone have experience with sudden distension of the stomach?
Re: FIP diagnosis?
At 10:37 AM 1/24/2007, you wrote: Did they do an ultrasoundIs there an obstruction,,Vomiting???A bloated tummy is not a sure diagnosis,,,Need more diagnostic work, Kelly Just came home from the vet. Yesterday morning, I noticed that Jilly, my 6 month old foster's stomach had bloated out. Looeds like she had swallowed a water balloon. They said it was all fluid, but couldn't get a sample. They tried and tried. Took x-ray, used a sonogram probe. All fluid. She is acting fine. But they said she might have only a very short time--maybe days. They seem sure it's FIP. They gave me Baytril and said if by some miracle, she's alive in 7 days, come back and get more. Anyone have experience with sudden distension of the stomach? _ Search for grocery stores. Find gratitude. Turn a simple search into something more. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_gratitudeFORM=WLMTAG -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/649 - Release Date: 1/23/2007
Re: FIP diagnosis?
It's all fluid, but they couldn't get a sample?! Doesn't that seem weird to you guys? Did they not have an ultrasound machine in the clinic? They should be able to easily find a fluid pocket using ultrasound. Take her to a different vet tomorrow if you can (one with a decent hospital and the proper facilities/technology)! I assume they did OTHER testing to come up with this FIP diagnosis? Please ask them what her feline coronavirus (FCoV) titer was. Ask them what her albumin:globulin (A:G) ratio was in her blood plasma. In FIP, AGP levels are usually greater than 1500 mg/ml. In normal cats, it’s up to 500 mg/ml. What is her Alpha one acid glycoprotein (AGP) level? In FIP, AGP levels are usually greater than 1500 mg/ml. In normal cats, it’s up to 500 mg/ml. Is she jaundiced? Does she have the typical eye symptoms associated with FIP? Does she have neurological signs, ataxia (wobbly and falling over when walking), head tremors, seizures, or are her eyes may dart from side to side? Once you find a better vet (one able to stick a needle in something the size of a grapefruit), take this webpage, print it off, and demand they run these tests: http://www.dr-addie.com/WhatIsFIP.htm#Wet%20or%20effusive%20FIP Phaewryn
Re: FIP diagnosis?
I just realized I posted the AGP normals twice and didn't post the a:g ratios at all... here's that info: In FIP the globulin concentration in serum or plasma is raised to over 40g/l. Consequently the A:G is usually lowered. An A:G of 0.4 indicates FIP is quite likely, provided that globulins are raised, remember than a low albumin (e.g. in liver disease) can also artificially lower the A:G. An A:G of 0.8 rules out FIP; A:G of between 0.4-0.8 - consider other parameters. Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't declaw! http://www.pawproject.com/kona.html
Re: FIP diagnosis?
Yes, very weird indeed. TOO weird. I can not believe that they could not get a sample. I'd be looking for a new (and competent) vet for sure. When I was at the shelter, even us dumb vet techs were able to get fluid samples from those cats suspected of having FIP... The procedure is NOT rocket science.. JMO, Hugs, Patti
