Re: Re: FIP
from what i understand FIP is the body's response to the mutated corona virus. i think its the virus itself not the bodies genetics but the viruses. there are many corona viruses (kind of like breeds of cats) and every once in a while there is mutation (kind of like double paws). michelle really gets this one.. an I in the right track michelle? kristi From: Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/13 Mon AM 11:19:18 EDT To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FIP Isn't FIP a mutation of one of the corona viruses based on the cats own genetic makeup, or something like that? Gloria On Jun 12, 2005, at 9:55 PM, catatonya wrote: I think they are saying now that it's really not that 'catchy' because it's caused by a corona virus that most cats are or will be exposed to already. It's just that most cats exposed to the various viruses do not come down with fip and a few do. t [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was already afraid of that. How catchy is it for my other cats? How again is that spread- we never see it at my clinic- isn't it pretty uncommon these days or am I confusing with another infectious disease? She is too young for the baby aspirin or should i say too thin, she does not weigh enough to even qualify for the smallest possible dose. We just started her on a 2nd antibiotic so fingers are crossed. I can't believe she's still eating!! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/12 Sun PM 02:20:21 EDT To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: 6 week old kitten fever question I don't mean to scare you, but it could be FIP. Has your vet mentioned using baby aspiring to bring down the fever? It worked with Ginger. Adult cats can get one baby aspirin every three days (too much aspirin can kill cats). I have no idea how much a kitten that small would get, or if it is even safe, so please do not try it without talking to the vet first. Michelle
Re: Re: FIP - Good Explanation
http://www.winnfelinehealth.org/health/FIP.html[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from what i understand FIP is the body's response to the mutated corona virus. i think its the virus itself not the bodies genetics but the viruses. there are many corona viruses (kind of like breeds of cats) and every once in a while there is mutation (kind of like double paws). michelle really gets this one.. an I in the right track michelle?kristiFrom: Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: 2005/06/13 Mon AM 11:19:18 EDTTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: FIPIsn't FIP a mutation of one of the corona viruses based on the cats own genetic makeup, or something like that?GloriaOn Jun 12, 2005, at 9:55 PM, catatonya wrote: I think they are saying now that it's really not that 'catchy' because it's caused by a corona virus that most cats are or will be exposed to already. It's just that most cats exposed to the various viruses do not come down with fip and a few do. t [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was already afraid of that. How "catchy" is it for my other cats? How again is that spread- we never see it at my clinic- isn't it pretty uncommon these days or am I confusing with another infectious disease? She is too young for the baby aspirin or should i say too thin, she does not weigh enough to even qualify for the smallest possible dose. We just started her on a 2nd antibiotic so fingers are crossed. I can't believe she's still eating!! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/12 Sun PM 02:20:21 EDT To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: 6 week old kitten fever question I don't mean to scare you, but it could be FIP. Has your vet mentioned using baby aspiring to bring down the fever? It worked with Ginger. Adult cats can get one baby aspirin every three days (too much aspirin can kill cats). I have no idea how much a kitten that small would get, or if it is even safe, so please do not try it without talking to the vet first. Michelle
RE: Re: FIP
Kristi, there is a really active support group for FIP - they are many many supportive educated people on the list - you might want to visit tem (it's [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think - Also, you might want to visit the below website - this is the excellent website for FIP - there is a doctor called, Dr. Addie who has dedicated her last two decades to FIP research - she is at University of Glasgow - she is a very caring person as far as I can tell. There is really no 100% accurate diagnostic method until after the fact, but it gives you lots of information as many of FIP symptoms are similar to lots of other illness which can be treatable - also recently dr. Addie reported in her newsletter that 25% of FIP cases had a success treating them with Interferon as well - if you send a blood sample she can run blood analysis (they look at combinations of different things)whether the kitty has FIP or not - I think 75% or 80 % of samples sent to her ended up not being FIP according to her blood analysis. I have many corona virus kitties, so I educated my self at lot on this subject for the past several years - the fever could be something else - please don't worry - I have kittens who developed 106 or 107 fever for a week or more and I was very worried, but ended up not being FIP (it happened to several of my kitties) I pray that your kitty will get better very very soon. Dr. Addie's website on FIP http://www.dr-addie.com/ \ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Re: FIP thanx all for the great info. I feel better about my cats being exsposed to her but am still concerned as to wether or not she has FIP. It almost temp taking time I'll let you know. Kristi From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karolyn Lount) Date: 2005/06/12 Sun PM 07:12:39 EDT To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FIP Hi, If it is FIP you may be in luck as I was. I had 18 FeLV+ cats and was fostering a cat that turned out to have FIP and had to be put down. I sweated it out for several mos. and I was very lucky that to my knowedge none of my cats came down with it. If they did they were able to fight it off. My Vet told me it would be a waste of my money to have them tested for it. He told me if they did have it there was nothing I could do about it. Many cats are able to fight it off and they might end up being a carrier. That was 10yrs. ago and todate I have not had a cat show signs of having it.
RE: Re: FIP
thank you that info was great, her fever is gone, but i'm stll taking her in for some routine bloodwork because she is still always sleeping and very quiet- she doesn't play at all. I'm pretty sure she just needs to put some weight in and get her strength back- but better safe than sorry. I'll let you all know what her blood work says. From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/13 Mon PM 12:02:26 EDT To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Re: FIP Kristi, there is a really active support group for FIP - they are many many supportive educated people on the list - you might want to visit tem (it's [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think - Also, you might want to visit the below website - this is the excellent website for FIP - there is a doctor called, Dr. Addie who has dedicated her last two decades to FIP research - she is at University of Glasgow - she is a very caring person as far as I can tell. There is really no 100% accurate diagnostic method until after the fact, but it gives you lots of information as many of FIP symptoms are similar to lots of other illness which can be treatable - also recently dr. Addie reported in her newsletter that 25% of FIP cases had a success treating them with Interferon as well - if you send a blood sample she can run blood analysis (they look at combinations of different things)whether the kitty has FIP or not - I think 75% or 80 % of samples sent to her ended up not being FIP according to her blood analysis. I have many corona virus kitties, so I educated my self at lot on this subject for the past several years - the fever could be something else - please don't worry - I have kittens who developed 106 or 107 fever for a week or more and I was very worried, but ended up not being FIP (it happened to several of my kitties) I pray that your kitty will get better very very soon. Dr. Addie's website on FIP http://www.dr-addie.com/ \ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Re: FIP thanx all for the great info. I feel better about my cats being exsposed to her but am still concerned as to wether or not she has FIP. It almost temp taking time I'll let you know. Kristi From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karolyn Lount) Date: 2005/06/12 Sun PM 07:12:39 EDT To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FIP Hi, If it is FIP you may be in luck as I was. I had 18 FeLV+ cats and was fostering a cat that turned out to have FIP and had to be put down. I sweated it out for several mos. and I was very lucky that to my knowedge none of my cats came down with it. If they did they were able to fight it off. My Vet told me it would be a waste of my money to have them tested for it. He told me if they did have it there was nothing I could do about it. Many cats are able to fight it off and they might end up being a carrier. That was 10yrs. ago and todate I have not had a cat show signs of having it.
RE: Re: FIP
Please do - I will be sending a healing energy for your kitties! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Re: FIP thank you that info was great, her fever is gone, but i'm stll taking her in for some routine bloodwork because she is still always sleeping and very quiet- she doesn't play at all. I'm pretty sure she just needs to put some weight in and get her strength back- but better safe than sorry. I'll let you all know what her blood work says. From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/13 Mon PM 12:02:26 EDT To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Re: FIP Kristi, there is a really active support group for FIP - they are many many supportive educated people on the list - you might want to visit tem (it's [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think - Also, you might want to visit the below website - this is the excellent website for FIP - there is a doctor called, Dr. Addie who has dedicated her last two decades to FIP research - she is at University of Glasgow - she is a very caring person as far as I can tell. There is really no 100% accurate diagnostic method until after the fact, but it gives you lots of information as many of FIP symptoms are similar to lots of other illness which can be treatable - also recently dr. Addie reported in her newsletter that 25% of FIP cases had a success treating them with Interferon as well - if you send a blood sample she can run blood analysis (they look at combinations of different things)whether the kitty has FIP or not - I think 75% or 80 % of samples sent to her ended up not being FIP according to her blood analysis. I have many corona virus kitties, so I educated my self at lot on this subject for the past several years - the fever could be something else - please don't worry - I have kittens who developed 106 or 107 fever for a week or more and I was very worried, but ended up not being FIP (it happened to several of my kitties) I pray that your kitty will get better very very soon. Dr. Addie's website on FIP http://www.dr-addie.com/ \ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Re: FIP thanx all for the great info. I feel better about my cats being exsposed to her but am still concerned as to wether or not she has FIP. It almost temp taking time I'll let you know. Kristi From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karolyn Lount) Date: 2005/06/12 Sun PM 07:12:39 EDT To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FIP Hi, If it is FIP you may be in luck as I was. I had 18 FeLV+ cats and was fostering a cat that turned out to have FIP and had to be put down. I sweated it out for several mos. and I was very lucky that to my knowedge none of my cats came down with it. If they did they were able to fight it off. My Vet told me it would be a waste of my money to have them tested for it. He told me if they did have it there was nothing I could do about it. Many cats are able to fight it off and they might end up being a carrier. That was 10yrs. ago and todate I have not had a cat show signs of having it.
Re: Re: FIP
Thank you for that info on FIP, that makes me feel safer for my others, another question.. can she survive it if she has it, what are the survival rates? Thanx again Kristi From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/12 Sun PM 02:46:39 EDT To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FIP It's great she is eating. FIP in itself is not contagious, according to current thinking in the veterinary community. They think it is caused by a mutation of a corona virus, but there are many corona viruses and most cats carry them and in most cats it never mutates. Corona viruses are very contagious, so contagious that I think the majority of cats have been exposed to them and test positive for them. So if your kitten has FIP (hopefully not), your other cats probably all carry a corona virus already but it does not mean any of theirs will mutate. Mutation is very rare, and so FIP is rare. But there seems to be some anecdotal correlation between FeLV and mutation, in that there is some thought that more cats with FeLV might have viruses mutate into FIP than among negatives. But even so, most FeLV+ cats who carry a corona virus do not experience a mutation into FIP. Hope this is helpful. I learned all of this when I took in one of my positives and then learned she had been exposed to a cat with FIP, and I did a bunch of research and called an FIP expert at Cornell and learned the above information, at which point I released her into the house with the others. It is 3 years later and she is still with me (Patches), though one of my cats who died may have died of the dry form of FIP (though it was more likely lymphoma). Michelle
Re: Re: FIP
thanx all for the great info. I feel better about my cats being exsposed to her but am still concerned as to wether or not she has FIP. It almost temp taking time I'll let you know. Kristi From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karolyn Lount) Date: 2005/06/12 Sun PM 07:12:39 EDT To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FIP Hi, If it is FIP you may be in luck as I was. I had 18 FeLV+ cats and was fostering a cat that turned out to have FIP and had to be put down. I sweated it out for several mos. and I was very lucky that to my knowedge none of my cats came down with it. If they did they were able to fight it off. My Vet told me it would be a waste of my money to have them tested for it. He told me if they did have it there was nothing I could do about it. Many cats are able to fight it off and they might end up being a carrier. That was 10yrs. ago and todate I have not had a cat show signs of having it.
