Re: Some good news--and thanks to Nina Hideyo!!
Kerry, Praises that you got the family leave approved (yea!) and I'll continue to pray for your dad, you, your kitties, and your family. Also, awesome that Mickey tested negative! I am happy for you. :) Wendy --- Kerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's some good news. But first, the background for those who don't know it: of the feral colony of 5 kittens (Caramel, Levi, Flavia, Snoball and Mickey) and I adult cat (Momcat) I took in in December 2003, 4 of the kittens ---Caramel, Levi, Flavia Snoball--tested positive in Feb 2004 and all 5 kittens tested positive in July 2004. Momcat tested negative both times. All were quarantined in my 2nd bedroom, away from my 3 existing negative cats. The 4 kitties that tested pos twice succumbed between November 2004 and July 2005. That left 1 pos, Mickey, and 1 neg, Momcat, both of whom I continued to quarantine. They were buddies and it would have been cruel to separate them, particularly as Momcat appeared immune to FeLV. My dream has been that Mickey would revert to neg, and I could then integrate them both in my household. Hope springs eternal as they say-- I dreamed of that before, and it didn't come to pass. Nonetheless for about 10 months, I dreamedand procrastinated over re-testing them for a variety of reasons, not least fear of Mickey testing pos again. Today I trapped Mickey, had him re-tested, and..he's NEGATIVE!!! Because I'm anal, I'm going to trap Momcat next weekend and have her tested. I fully expect her to have remained negative. But, if by some horrible twist of fate she is not (because she caught it from the pos kitties before they passed away) I plan at lastto vaccinate my negs and integrate them all anyway. There is a much better vaccination available now, and my vet has the special equipment to do it. This is such wonderful news on so many levels, not least because it demonstrates -- again---that FeLV is simply not as contagious as most people believe. Mickey lived with his siblings all his life, tested pos once, but has thrown it off. And Momcat, who also lived with them all, never got it in the first place. (And neither of them has ever been FeLV vaccinated!) It's also something I'm going to highlight in the letter to Paula F in my lobbying for the new Chicago PAWS shelter to have an FeLV annex. I had intended the letter to be (finally) mailed on Friday. But I'm glad that it wasn't! I now want to thank Nina for coming to my rescue when I called her at 11pm last night (1am my time) in a panic because Mickey walked into the trap way before I expected him to. How could I reasonably expect him to stay there all night? What was I going to do about his bodily needs?? Nina reassured me a) that she has had to do that too on occasion (so I stopped feeling like a monster) and b) advised me to elevate the trap and layer the floor with paper. Sure enough, everything fell through the wire mesh on to the paper so Mickey was not in the discomfort in which he would otherwise have been and he survived the night. And I have Hideyo to thank for the success of the next stage--I was gearing up for a chase catch battle in transferring Mickey from the cage to a carrier to take to the vet (I don't have a car; so carrier is easier for standing in street hailing cab). But Hideyo has a great technique that she shared---uncover the cage the cat is in, and cover (or provide dark-colored) carrier you want to transfer the cat to. The principle being that they will always prefer the dark option. (Correct me if I'm wrong about the principle Hideyo) Sure enough--my little feral Mickey WALKED from the cage straight in to the carrier. No battle necessary!! So, today is a happy day at no 603, to say the least. Also, last but not least, I want to say, I'm sorry I continue to only post sporadically. I pray for all your sick kitties and send healing vibes. And my heart goes out to all those that have crossed the bridge. I hope that I will be in a position to post more regualarly when I get back from UK mid-June. (I go there mid May.) (I had a month's FMLA approved yesterday, to be with my dad, who has Stage 3 cancer.) I *really* miss being part of the everyday list. This group is just the best EVER. love and hugs to all of you and your furballs.Kerry __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Some good news--and thanks to Nina Hideyo!!
i mentioned the new vaccine to a vet tech who cohosts with me at www.cathobbyist.com, and she's gonna look into it and see what she can find out--she knows that in her area they're using the nasal vaccine a lot i remember, tho, when the first FeLV vaccine came out and was considered so ineffective--i wonder how and if these have been tested for efficacy. (you all know my theory about how difficult it is to do research on a population when the main treatment for that group is automatic euthanasia.) On 4/30/06, Kerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Susan. I still can't believe it. I wanted it so much for the others but they succumbed. And now by some miracle Mickey has made it. - Original Message - From: Susan Hoffman To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 12:17 AM Subject: Re: Some good news--and thanks to Nina Hideyo!! Congrantulations. This gives me great hope as well for an FeLV+ I have in a foster home. Kerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's some good news. But first, the background for those who don't know it: of the feral colony of 5 kittens (Caramel, Levi, Flavia, Snoball and Mickey) and I adult cat (Momcat) I took in in December 2003, 4 of the kittens ---Caramel, Levi, Flavia Snoball--tested positive in Feb 2004 and all 5 kittens tested positive in July 2004. Momcat tested negative both times. All were quarantined in my 2nd bedroom, away from my 3 existing negative cats. The 4 kitties that tested pos twice succumbed between November 2004 and July 2005. That left 1 pos, Mickey, and 1 neg, Momcat, both of whom I continued to quarantine. They were buddies and it would have been cruel to separate them, particularly as Momcat appeared immune to FeLV. My dream has been that Mickey would revert to neg, and I could then integrate them both in my household. Hope springs eternal as they say-- I dreamed of that before, and it didn't come to pass. Nonetheless for about 10 months, I dreamedand procrastinated over re-testing them for a variety of reasons, not least fear of Mickey testing pos again. Today I trapped Mickey, had him re-tested, and..he's NEGATIVE!!! Because I'm anal, I'm going to trap Momcat next weekend and have her tested. I fully expect her to have remained negative. But, if by some horrible twist of fate she is not (because she caught it from the pos kitties before they passed away) I plan at lastto vaccinate my negs and integrate them all anyway. There is a much better vaccination available now, and my vet has the special equipment to do it. This is such wonderful news on so many levels, not least because it demonstrates -- again---that FeLV is simply not as contagious as most people believe. Mickey lived with his siblings all his life, tested pos once, but has thrown it off. And Momcat, who also lived with them all, never got it in the first place. (And neither of them has ever been FeLV vaccinated!) It's also something I'm going to highlight in the letter to Paula F in my lobbying for the new Chicago PAWS shelter to have an FeLV annex. I had intended the letter to be (finally) mailed on Friday. But I'm glad that it wasn't! I now want to thank Nina for coming to my rescue when I called her at 11pm last night (1am my time) in a panic because Mickey walked into the trap way before I expected him to. How could I reasonably expect him to stay there all night? What was I going to do about his bodily needs?? Nina reassured me a) that she has had to do that too on occasion (so I stopped feeling like a monster) and b) advised me to elevate the trap and layer the floor with paper. Sure enough, everything fell through the wire mesh on to the paper so Mickey was not in the discomfort in which he would otherwise have been and he survived the night. And I have Hideyo to thank for the success of the next stage--I was gearing up for a chase catch battle in transferring Mickey from the cage to a carrier to take to the vet (I don't have a car; so carrier is easier for standing in street hailing cab). But Hideyo has a great technique that she shared---uncover the cage the cat is in, and cover (or provide dark-colored) carrier you want to transfer the cat to. The principle being that they will always prefer the dark option. (Correct me if I'm wrong about the principle Hideyo) Sure enough--my little feral Mickey WALKED from the cage straight in to the carrier. No battle necessary!! So, today is a happy day at no 603, to say the least. Also, last but not least, I want to say, I'm sorry I continue to only post sporadically. I pray for all your sick kitties and send healing vibes. And my heart goes out to all those that have crossed the bridge. I hope that I will be in a position to post more regualarly when I get back from UK mid-June. (I go there mid May.) (I had a month's FMLA approved yesterday, to be with my dad, who has Stage 3 cancer.) I *really* miss being part of the everyday list. This group is just the best EVER
Re: Some good news--and thanks to Nina Hideyo!!
Good luck with every thing that you are hoping for, thinking of you and your beloved felinesSandra On 4/30/06, Kerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's some good news. But first, the background for those who don't know it: of the feral colony of5 kittens (Caramel, Levi, Flavia, Snoball and Mickey) and I adultcat (Momcat) I took in in December 2003, 4 of the kittens ---Caramel, Levi, Flavia Snoball--tested positive in Feb 2004 and all 5 kittens tested positive in July 2004. Momcat tested negative both times. All were quarantined in my 2nd bedroom, away from my 3 existing negative cats. The 4 kitties that tested pos twice succumbed between November 2004 and July 2005. That left 1 pos, Mickey,and 1 neg, Momcat, both of whomI continued toquarantine. They were buddies and it would have been cruel to separate them, particularly as Momcat appeared immune to FeLV. My dream has been that Mickey would revert to neg, and I could then integrate them both in my household. Hope springs eternal as they say-- I dreamed of that before, and it didn't come to pass. Nonetheless for about 10 months, I dreamedand procrastinated over re-testing them for a variety of reasons, not least fear ofMickey testing pos again. Today I trapped Mickey, had him re-tested, and..he's NEGATIVE!!! Because I'm anal, I'm going to trap Momcat next weekend and have her tested. I fully expect her to have remained negative. But, if by some horrible twist of fate she is not (because she caught it from the pos kitties before they passed away) I plan at lastto vaccinate my negs and integrate them all anyway. There is a much better vaccination available now, and my vet has the special equipment to do it. This is such wonderful news on so many levels, not least because it demonstrates -- again---that FeLV is simply not as contagious as most people believe. Mickey lived with his siblings all his life, tested pos once,but has thrown it off. And Momcat, who also lived with them all, never got it in the first place. (Andneither of them has ever been FeLV vaccinated!) It's also something I'm going to highlight in the letter to Paula F in my lobbying for the new Chicago PAWS shelter to have an FeLV annex. I had intended the letter to be (finally) mailed on Friday. But I'm glad that it wasn't! I now want to thank Nina for coming to my rescue when I called her at 11pm last night (1am my time) in a panic because Mickey walked into the trap way beforeI expected him to. How could I reasonably expect him to stay there all night? What was I going to do about his bodily needs?? Nina reassured me a) that she has had to do that too on occasion (so I stopped feeling like a monster) and b) advised me to elevate the trap and layer the floor with paper. Sure enough, everything fell through the wire mesh on to the paper so Mickey was not in the discomfort in which he would otherwise have been and he survived the night. And I have Hideyo to thank for the success of the next stage--I was gearing up for a chase catch battle in transferring Mickey from the cage to a carrier to take to the vet (I don't have a car; so carrier is easier for standing in street hailing cab). But Hideyo has a great technique that she shared---uncover the cage the cat is in, and cover (or provide dark-colored) carrier you want to transfer the cat to. The principle being that they will always prefer the dark option. (Correct me if I'm wrong about the principle Hideyo) Sure enough--my little feral Mickey WALKED from the cage straight in to the carrier. No battle necessary!! So, today is a happy dayat no 603,to say the least. Also, last but not least,Iwant to say, I'm sorry Icontinue to only post sporadically. I pray for all your sick kitties and send healing vibes. And my heart goes out to all those that have crossed the bridge. I hope thatI will be in a position to post more regualarly when I get back from UK mid-June. (I go there midMay.)(I hada month's FMLA approved yesterday, tobe with my dad, who has Stage 3 cancer.) I *really* miss being part of the everyday list. This group is just the best EVER. love and hugs to all of you and your furballs.Kerry
Re: Some good news--and thanks to Nina Hideyo!!
Congrats! Michelle
Some good news--and thanks to Nina Hideyo!!
Here's some good news. But first, the background for those who don't know it: of the feral colony of5 kittens (Caramel, Levi, Flavia, Snoball and Mickey) and I adultcat (Momcat) I took in in December 2003, 4 of the kittens ---Caramel, Levi, Flavia Snoball--tested positive in Feb 2004 and all 5 kittens tested positive in July 2004. Momcat tested negative both times. All were quarantined in my 2nd bedroom, away from my 3 existing negative cats. The 4 kitties that tested pos twice succumbed between November 2004 and July 2005. That left 1 pos, Mickey,and 1 neg, Momcat, both of whomI continued toquarantine. They were buddies and it would have been cruel to separate them, particularly as Momcat appeared immune to FeLV. My dream has been that Mickey would revert to neg, and I could then integrate them both in my household. Hope springs eternal as they say-- I dreamed of that before, and it didn't come to pass. Nonetheless for about 10 months, I dreamedand procrastinated over re-testing them for a variety of reasons, not least fear ofMickey testing pos again. Today I trapped Mickey, had him re-tested, and..he's NEGATIVE!!! Because I'm anal, I'm going to trap Momcat next weekend and have her tested. I fully expect her to have remained negative. But, if by some horrible twist of fate she is not (because she caught it from the pos kitties before they passed away) I plan at lastto vaccinate my negs and integrate them all anyway. There is a much better vaccination available now, and my vet has the special equipment to do it. This is such wonderful news on so many levels, not least because it demonstrates -- again---that FeLV is simply not as contagious as most people believe. Mickey lived with his siblings all his life, tested pos once,but has thrown it off. And Momcat, who also lived with them all, never got it in the first place. (Andneither of them has ever been FeLV vaccinated!) It's also something I'm going to highlight in the letter to Paula F in my lobbying for the new Chicago PAWS shelter to have an FeLV annex. I had intended the letter to be (finally) mailed on Friday. But I'm glad that it wasn't! I now want to thank Nina for coming to my rescue when I called her at 11pm last night (1am my time) in a panic because Mickey walked into the trap way beforeI expected him to. How could I reasonably expect him to stay there all night? What was I going to do about his bodily needs?? Nina reassured me a) that she has had to do that too on occasion (so I stopped feeling like a monster) and b) advised me to elevate the trap and layer the floor with paper. Sure enough, everything fell through the wire mesh on to the paper so Mickey was not in the discomfort in which he would otherwise have been and he survived the night. And I have Hideyo to thank for the success of the next stage--I was gearing up for a chase catch battle in transferring Mickey from the cage to a carrier to take to the vet (I don't have a car; so carrier is easier for standing in street hailing cab). But Hideyo has a great technique that she shared---uncover the cage the cat is in, and cover (or provide dark-colored) carrier you want to transfer the cat to. The principle being that they will always prefer the dark option. (Correct me if I'm wrong about the principle Hideyo) Sure enough--my little feral Mickey WALKED from the cage straight in to the carrier. No battle necessary!! So, today is a happy dayat no 603,to say the least. Also, last but not least,Iwant to say, I'm sorry Icontinue to only post sporadically. I pray for all your sick kitties and send healing vibes. And my heart goes out to all those that have crossed the bridge. I hope thatI will be in a position to post more regualarly when I get back from UK mid-June. (I go there midMay.)(I hada month's FMLA approved yesterday, tobe with my dad, who has Stage 3 cancer.) I *really* miss being part of the everyday list. This group is just the best EVER. love and hugs to all of you and your furballs.Kerry
Re: Some good news--and thanks to Nina Hideyo!!
Kerry, What vaccine are yoou referring to below and what special equipment is needed to administer it? Gary - Original Message - From: Kerry MacKenzie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 12:57 AM Subject: Some good news--and thanks to Nina Hideyo!! There is a much better vaccination available now, and my vet has the special equipment to do it.
Re: Some good news--and thanks to Nina Hideyo!!
Congrantulations. This gives me great hope as well for an FeLV+ I have in a foster home. Kerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's some good news. But first, the background for those who don't know it: of the feral colony of5 kittens (Caramel, Levi, Flavia, Snoball and Mickey) and I adultcat (Momcat) I took in in December 2003, 4 of the kittens ---Caramel, Levi, Flavia Snoball--tested positive in Feb 2004 and all 5 kittens tested positive in July 2004. Momcat tested negative both times. All were quarantined in my 2nd bedroom, away from my 3 existing negative cats. The 4 kitties that tested pos twice succumbed between November 2004 and July 2005. That left 1 pos, Mickey,and 1 neg, Momcat, both of whomI continued toquarantine. They were buddies and it would have been cruel to separate them, particularly as Momcat appeared immune to FeLV. My dream has been that Mickey would revert to neg, and I could then integrate them both in my household. Hope springs eternal as they say-- I dreamed of that before, and it didn't come to pass. Nonetheless for about 10 months, I dreamedand procrastinated over re-testing them for a variety of reasons, not least fear ofMickey testing pos again. Today I trapped Mickey, had him re-tested, and..he's NEGATIVE!!! Because I'm anal, I'm going to trap Momcat next weekend and have her tested. I fully expect her to have remained negative. But, if by some horrible twist of fate she is not (because she caught it from the pos kitties before they passed away) I plan at lastto vaccinate my negs and integrate them all anyway. There is a much better vaccination available now, and my vet has the special equipment to do it. This is such wonderful news on so many levels, not least because it demonstrates -- again---that FeLV is simply not as contagious as most people believe. Mickey lived with his siblings all his life, tested pos once,but has thrown it off. And Momcat, who also lived with them all, never got it in the first place. (Andneither of them has ever been FeLV vaccinated!) It's also something I'm going to highlight in the letter to Paula F in my lobbying for the new Chicago PAWS shelter to have an FeLV annex. I had intended the letter to be (finally) mailed on Friday. But I'm glad that it wasn't! I now want to thank Nina for coming to my rescue when I called her at 11pm last night (1am my time) in a panic because Mickey walked into the trap way beforeI expected him to. How could I reasonably expect him to stay there all night? What was I going to do about his bodily needs?? Nina reassured me a) that she has had to do that too on occasion (so I stopped feeling like a monster) and b) advised me to elevate the trap and layer the floor with paper. Sure enough, everything fell through the wire mesh on to the paper so Mickey was not in the discomfort in which he would otherwise have been and he survived the night. And I have Hideyo to thank for the success of the next stage--I was gearing up for a chase catch battle in transferring Mickey from the cage to a carrier to take to the vet (I don't have a car; so carrier is easier for standing in street hailing cab). But Hideyo has a great technique that she shared---uncover the cage the cat is in, and cover (or provide dark-colored) carrier you want to transfer the cat to. The principle being that they will always prefer the dark option. (Correct me if I'm wrong about the principle Hideyo) Sure enough--my little feral Mickey WALKED from the cage straight in to the carrier. No battle necessary!! So, today is a happy dayat no 603,to say the least. Also, last but not least,Iwant to say, I'm sorry Icontinue to only post sporadically. I pray for all your sick kitties and send healing vibes. And my heart goes out to all those that have crossed the bridge. I hope thatI will be in a position to post more regualarly when I get back from UK mid-June. (I go there midMay.)(I hada month's FMLA approved yesterday, tobe with my dad, who has Stage 3 cancer.) I *really* miss being part of the everyday list. This group is just the best EVER. love and hugs to all of you and your furballs.Kerry
Re: Some good news--and thanks to Nina Hideyo!!
Hi Gary---it's made by Merrill (sp???), is relatively new,
does not involve injection, and is the only type on the market that carries no
sarcoma risk. I'm sorry to be so dismally vague and detail-challenged but it
involves some sort of box-shaped equipment and "air". That's allI know at
this point. I mentioned it to Nina and she immediately knew what was meant so
she may have some more meaningful info. My vet--who did invest in the
equipment--said that many vets don't use it because of the cost ofthe
equipment...I only heard about it in the first place through this list,
otherwise I wouldn't even have known to ask my vet about it---so hopefully
someone else will jump in with more info!? Kerry
- Original Message -
From:
gary
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 12:12
AM
Subject: Re: Some good news--and thanks
to Nina Hideyo!!
Kerry,
What vaccine are yoou referring to below and what
special equipment is needed to administer it?
Gary
- Original Message -
From:
Kerry MacKenzie
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 12:57
AM
Subject: Some good news--and thanks to
Nina Hideyo!!
There is a much better vaccination available now,
and my vet has the special equipment to do
it.
