RE: Urgent Help - Virbigen Omega Interferon

2006-07-28 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message




Hideyo, I'm sorry to hear you're so worried about Naomi. I really pray 
that this is something she gets over. What does the vet say about her weight? 
Are you able to finger-feed her? (Sorry if you've already been asked and 
answered these Qs). Sending naomi zillions of positive thoughts, hugs, 
Kerry
-Original Message-From: 
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On Behalf Of Hideyo YamamotoSent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 7:12 
PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Urgent Help 
- Virbigen Omega Interferon

Thanks, Susan,, I used 
to be on the list and tried to post the message,, but some reason.. I cannot  I 
will try to re-sign in to see if I can post it..(I had this big argument with 
the moderator of the group a long time ago.. and she took me out of the list so 
I have to disguise my identity..)

Well.. since I have 
lots of corona virus cats,, FIP has been something that I have been most afraid 
of .. but fortunately.. I really have not had any problems except one kitty who 
could have had FIP (wet form) about three years 
ago.

Anyway, Naomi is 4 
months old and she just does not grow.. she weighs under 2 lb still.. she does 
not eat much and she does not play at all.. she has chronic URIs (which I know 
its common).. but what I am really scared of is her eyes one of her pupil 
shape is not round.. its almost missing a piece or something.. and just I feel 
like neurologically something wrong with her.. I have taken to her a vet a few 
times, but havent been able to draw blood sample to run total body function.. 
but I just know that something is wrong.. and I am so scared that it maybe 
FIPI thought she might have fluid in her tummy as her body is just so soft (no 
muscle tone).. but the vet did not think so but due to the eye inflammation 
with no specific reason (from what we can tell).. I am afraid that FIP might be 
causing it I am so afraid, Susanyou know how awful this disease is.. 






From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Susan 
HoffmanSent: Thursday, July 
27, 2006 6:05 PMTo: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Urgent Help - Virbigen Omega 
Interferon


Try the FIP group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FIP/ 
You may need someone close to you since the feline interferon that I am familiar 
with has to be kept refrigerated.



What symptoms do you see? Why do you think it is 
FIP? (There is no test for FIP, just for exposure to the corona virus, and 
most cats exposed to corona throw it off and do not develop 
FIP.)Hideyo 
Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  
  Hi, Does anyone have VO Interferon 
  that I can buy from? I am afraid that my Naomi may have FIP (has not been 
  confirmed.. but her clinical symptoms mimic the symptoms of the disease and I 
  am so scared.).. and would like to use VO interferon, but I am so afraid that 
  it will be too late for Naomi if I order is from UK or France if anyone on 
  the list can sell it to me, I will be so 
  grateful


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Re: Urgent Help - Virbigen Omega Interferon

2006-07-28 Thread Susan Hoffman
Re "i hate FIP more than FeLV, even, because you can't predict it, you can't prevent it, and in most cases, you can't really treat it "I hate it too, for these same reasons. It leaves me powerless to make a difference. I have had losses over the past two years, so far (and may it so remain) only in foster kittens under one year and even at that only in a tiny percentage of the ones who pass through my doors. But each one breaks me a little more. And I always worry, if someone sleeps too much or doesn't eat enough or I see any little "off" thing. It does appear that for a cat to develop FIP after exposure to the corona virus, there much be some genetic predisposition. I suspect this is why the incidence of FIP is so much higher in some commercial breeding catteries. TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:hideyo,my understanding is thatcorona viruses are contagious, and very common (i've seen statistics ranging from 85-95% of cats in a multi-cat environment will show a positive corona-virus titre--and that almost as high a percentage of humans will show the same thing!). however, the most recent thinking is that FIP comes not from the common corona virii themselves, but from a MUTATION of the common virus. the mutation is not contagious--and so far they don't really know what causes thevirus to mutate, nor no way to predict if any specific cat's corona-virus exposure might result in such a mutation. i know that the feline genome project is providing evidence of a genetic predisposition to the mutation occurring, which may be why there was an initial belief that FIP was infectious in and of itself. at the
 sanctuary, in the special-needs section where there were no FIVs or FeLVs, but lots of cats with non-immune-supressive problems, the only cats we lost to FIP were, indeed, a mom and two adult children (!) who had survived distemper contracted when the kittens were two months old. the other two kittens, bothwithCH from the distemper,never developed FIP. i hate FIP more than FeLV, even, because you can't predict it, you can't prevent it, and in most cases, you can't really treat it   -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892

Urgent Help - Virbigen Omega Interferon

2006-07-27 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








Hi, Does anyone have VO Interferon that I can buy from? I am
afraid that my Naomi may have FIP (has not been confirmed.. but her clinical symptoms
mimic the symptoms of the disease and I am so scared.).. and would like to use
VO interferon, but I am so afraid that it will be too late for Naomi if I order
is from UK or France if anyone on the list can sell it to me, I will be
so grateful








Re: Urgent Help - Virbigen Omega Interferon

2006-07-27 Thread Susan Hoffman
Try the FIP group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FIP/ You may need someone close to you since the feline interferon that I am familiar with has to be kept refrigerated.What symptoms do you see? Why do you think it is FIP? (There is no test for FIP, just for exposure to the corona virus, and most cats exposed to corona throw it off and do not develop FIP.)Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi, Does anyone have VO Interferon that I can buy from? I am afraid that my Naomi may have FIP (has not been confirmed.. but her clinical symptoms mimic the symptoms of the disease and I am so scared.).. and would like to use VO interferon, but I am so afraid that it will be too late for Naomi if I order is from UK or France –if anyone on the list can sell it to me, I will be so
 grateful…

RE: Urgent Help - Virbigen Omega Interferon

2006-07-27 Thread Susan Hoffman
Take a few deep breaths. You may be jumping to conclusions here. There are a lot of possible explanations. Try supplemental feedings -- syringe-feed KMR, feline AD canned, that sort of thing. Get Transfer Factor feline formula in her too.Why do you say you have a lot of corona positive cats? Have you been doing regular titre tests?Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Thanks, Susan,, I used to be on the list and tried to post the message,, but some reason.. I cannot – I will try to
 re-sign in to see if I can post it..(I had this big argument with the moderator of the group a long time ago.. and she took me out of the list so I have to disguise my identity..)Well.. since I have lots of corona virus cats,, FIP has been something that I have been most afraid of .. but fortunately.. I really have not had any problems except one kitty who could have had FIP (wet form) about three years ago.   
 Anyway, Naomi is 4 months old and she just does not grow.. she weighs under 2 lb still.. she does not eat much and she does not play at all.. she has chronic URIs (which I know it’s common).. but what I am really scared of is her eyes… one of her pupil shape is not round.. it’s almost missing a piece or something.. and just I feel like neurologically something wrong with her.. I have taken to her a vet a few times, but haven’t been able to draw blood sample to run total body function.. but I just know that something is wrong.. and I am so scared that it maybe FIP……I thought she might have fluid in her tummy as her body is just so soft (no muscle tone).. but the vet did not think so… but due to the eye inflammation with no specific reason (from what we can tell).. I am afraid that FIP might be causing it… I am so afraid, Susan…you know how awful this
 disease is.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan HoffmanSent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 6:05 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Urgent Help - Virbigen Omega Interferon  Try the FIP group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FIP/ You may need someone close to you since the feline interferon that I am familiar with has to be kept refrigerated.What symptoms do you see? Why do you think it is FIP? (There is no test for FIP, just for exposure to the corona virus, and most cats exposed to
 corona throw it off and do not develop FIP.)Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi, Does anyone have VO Interferon that I can buy from? I am afraid that my Naomi may have FIP (has not been confirmed.. but her clinical symptoms mimic the symptoms of the disease and I am so scared.).. and would like to use VO interferon, but I am so afraid that it will be too late for Naomi if I order is from UK or France –if anyone on the list can sell it to me, I will be so
 grateful…  

RE: Urgent Help - Virbigen Omega Interferon

2006-07-27 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








Yeah.. I used to test it on every single
cats that I rescued.. they are all tested positive.. not everyone is high..but
some are pretty high.. but none of them had FIP.. as they are adults and pretty
healthy.. but many of my cats are from the same colony.. so they all tested
positive.. but then, I stopped testing.. I did not see any points anymore..



I have been giving TF actually,, and
syringe feed her every day and she hates it.. I give Vitamin injection also.. I
am planning to take her to a different vet to see if she can draw blood from
her.. Susan, I am just so scared.. but I just know that something is definitely
wrong with her.. 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 6:17
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Urgent Help -
Virbigen Omega Interferon







Take a few deep breaths. You may be jumping to conclusions
here. There are a lot of possible explanations. Try supplemental
feedings -- syringe-feed KMR, feline AD canned, that sort of thing.
Get Transfer Factor feline formula in her too.











Why do you say you have a lot of corona positive cats? Have you
been doing regular titre tests?

Hideyo Yamamoto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







Thanks, Susan,, I used to be on the list
and tried to post the message,, but some reason.. I cannot  I will try
to re-sign in to see if I can post it..(I had this big argument with the
moderator of the group a long time ago.. and she took me out of the list so I
have to disguise my identity..)











Well.. since I have lots of corona virus
cats,, FIP has been something that I have been most afraid of .. but
fortunately.. I really have not had any problems except one kitty who could
have had FIP (wet form) about three years ago.











Anyway, Naomi is 4 months old and she just
does not grow.. she weighs under 2 lb still.. she does not eat much and she
does not play at all.. she has chronic URIs (which I know its common)..
but what I am really scared of is her eyes one of her pupil shape is not
round.. its almost missing a piece or something.. and just I feel like
neurologically something wrong with her.. I have taken to her a vet a few
times, but havent been able to draw blood sample to run total body
function.. but I just know that something is wrong.. and I am so scared that it
maybe FIPI thought she might have fluid in her tummy as her body
is just so soft (no muscle tone).. but the vet did not think so but due
to the eye inflammation with no specific reason (from what we can tell).. I am
afraid that FIP might be causing it I am so afraid,
Susanyou know how awful this disease is.. 



















From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 6:05
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Urgent Help -
Virbigen Omega Interferon















Try the FIP group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FIP/
You may need someone close to you since the feline interferon that I am
familiar with has to be kept refrigerated.



















What symptoms do you see? Why do you think it is FIP?
(There is no test for FIP, just for exposure to the corona virus, and most cats
exposed to corona throw it off and do not develop FIP.)

Hideyo Yamamoto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:











Hi, Does anyone have VO Interferon that I can buy from? I am
afraid that my Naomi may have FIP (has not been confirmed.. but her clinical
symptoms mimic the symptoms of the disease and I am so scared.).. and would
like to use VO interferon, but I am so afraid that it will be too late for
Naomi if I order is from UK or France if anyone on the list can sell it
to me, I will be so grateful
























Re: Urgent Help - Virbigen Omega Interferon

2006-07-27 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS



Hideyo,

Please hang in there.Many prayers coming from me and all my gang in 
Texas !

Karen


RE: Urgent Help - Virbigen Omega Interferon

2006-07-27 Thread Susan Hoffman
Don't assume it's FIP. I've had cats who worried me so, cats I was SURE were going to develop FIP, grow up and do well. And I have had cats who seemed so healthy and well, who developed normally, might even have been the biggest in the litter, break mwith FIP months after they were adopted. Relax. If it is FIP there's really not much you can do. Feline interferon works infrequently. And this may not be FIP at all.What's in the vitamin injection? Any chance that you're overloading her system and stressing her? TF is a really complete vitamin supplement in and of itself.Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Yeah.. I used to test it on every single cats that I rescued.. they are all tested positive.. not everyone is high..but some are pretty high.. but none of them had FIP.. as they are adults and pretty healthy.. but many of my cats are from the same colony.. so they all tested positive.. but then, I stopped testing.. I did not see any points anymore..I have been giving TF actually,, and syringe feed her every day and she hates it.. I give Vitamin injection also.. I am planning to take her to a different vet to see if she can draw blood from her.. Susan, I am just so scared.. but I just know that something is definitely wrong with her.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan HoffmanSent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 6:17 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Urgent Help - Virbigen Omega Interferon  Take a few deep breaths. You may be jumping to conclusions here. There are a lot of possible explanations. Try supplemental feedings -- syringe-feed KMR, feline AD canned,
 that sort of thing. Get Transfer Factor feline formula in her too.Why do you say you have a lot of corona positive cats? Have you been doing regular titre tests?Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Thanks, Susan,, I used to be on the list and tried to post the message,, but some reason.. I cannot – I will try to re-sign in to see if I can post it..(I had this big argument with the moderator of the group a long time ago.. and she took me out of the list so I have to disguise my identity..)Well.. since I have lots of corona virus cats,, FIP has been something that I have been most afraid of .. but fortunately.. I really have not had any problems except one kitty who could have had FIP (wet form) about three years ago.Anyway, Naomi is 4 months old and she just does not grow.. she weighs under 2 lb still.. she does not eat much and she does not play at all.. she has chronic URIs (which I know it’s common).. but what I am really scared of is her eyes… one of her pupil shape is not round.. it’s almost missing a piece or something.. and just I feel like neurologically something wrong with her.. I have taken to her a vet a few times, but haven’t been able to draw blood sample to run total body function.. but I just know that something is wrong.. and I am so scared that it maybe FIP……I thought she might have fluid in her tummy as her body is just so soft (no muscle tone).. but the vet did not think so… but due to the eye inflammation with no
 specific reason (from what we can tell).. I am afraid that FIP might be causing it… I am so afraid, Susan…you know how awful this disease is.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan HoffmanSent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 6:05 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Urgent Help - Virbigen Omega Interferon  Try the FIP group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FIP/ You may need someone close to you since the feline interferon that I am familiar with has to be kept refrigerated.What symptoms do you see? Why do you think it is FIP? (There is no test for FIP, just for exposure to the corona virus, and most cats exposed to corona throw it off and do not develop FIP.)Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi, Does anyone have VO Interferon that I can buy from? I am afraid that my Naomi may have FIP (has not been confirmed.. but her clinical symptoms mimic the
 symptoms of the disease and I am so scared.).. and would like to use VO interferon, but I am so afraid that it will be too late for Naomi if I order is from UK or France –if anyone on the list can sell it to me, I will be so grateful