Re: ear hematoma
I want to thank everyone for their great ideas! I'm going to talk to my vet about them and see what she can do without putting Boo under completely. I don't see why we can't do a lancing and stiches without putting him under anesthesia. But I guess it depends on what my vet is willing to do. I'll keep you updated! Linda Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited
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I'm not sure which disk it was on, we just finished watching the last one in season 3, but I'm thinking it was somewhere in season 1. We have Netflix, when we finish one they send the next. I adore the books, but the series is pretty darn addicting too. Wonderful actors, especially Robert Hardy as Seigfreid. I think we have just two more seasons to go, we're gonna be in withdrawal when they're done. I'm ordering the biography of James Herriot (written by his son) for my husband for Christmas. There is also a book (Vet Behind the Ears) by one of the actors on the series that talks about the behind the scenes stuff, but it is out of print and used copies are out of my budget just now. Anyone here read it and know if it would be worth getting eventually? Beth
Re: ear hematoma
Actually, sewing a large button onto it probably would work to keep it from refilling (by applying pressure across the width of the ear). It wouldn't keep it a smooth flap, but it should stop the hematoma from reoccurring. Brilliant idea, actually. I read all the books, loved them. I missed that one though. What's the title of that disk? Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: ear hematoma
I would think that it would be possible to lightly sedate him in office, and numb the ear locally, and lance it... without general anesthesia. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
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Here is what a typical healed hematoma ear looks like: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/Fang-Heshet-NEW.jpg http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/HESHET.jpg (RIP Heshet - he was one of the FIV+ Angel Wings rescues, he's since passed on surrounded by love) Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
RE: ear hematoma
Hi Linda, Looks like everyone has had lots of good suggestions for this. Mine isn't quite so sophisticated, but here it is. My husband and I are now watching the BBC "All Creatures Great and Small" DVDs. A dog has an ear hematoma in one episode and James drains it and sews a button on it to maintain pressure. You probably don't want to ask for a button, but I guess my point is that if a large animal vet way back then took the time to try to prevent a cauliflower ear, hopefully your modern vet should be open to trying to prevent it now (without surgery). Good luck, Beth Original message: Hi - I have a feline leukemia positive, partially paralyzed cat (Boo) who suffers from pressure sores on his bum. He's been on antibiotics on & off for years due to his paralysis induced pressure sores. Two weeks ago his health declined when he developed a severe liver infection and jaundice. Since then, with the addition of 2 antibiotics & other meds, his health has improved and the jaundice is greatly reduced. Unfortunately Boo has also developed an ear hematoma. My vet has drained it with a syringe, but it has filled back up with fluid, as she said it would. My vet is telling me that the only way to completely fix the hematoma is with surgery. Since his health is not great I'm concerned about doing this. But his ear is not getting better, and, although my vet has told me that the hematoma won't effect his overall health, he will develop a califlower ear and have issues with cleaning the ear, if it's not corrected. Has anyone had any experience with a hematoma? Is there any way to correct the problem without putting Boo under anesthesia? Thanks, Linda
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Hi Linda! One of my FeLV guys just recently had surgery (under anesthesia) for an ear hematoma and now has cauliflower ear, but this is only because the doctor didn't set the ear properly while he was under. Marvin now has one wrinkly ear that kinda lays close to his head...but I don't mind...it just gives him a little more character! I do keep an eye on the ear canal, however, as debris seems to build up a little quicker in the wrinkle ear as opposed to the other ear...but otherwise, he's just fine! Essentially, the vet either lances or uses a laser to pierce the skin in several areas to drain it, then uses a few stitches to readhere the skin back onto the cartilidge. The main purpose of the stitches is to create scar tissue that will reconnect the skin to the cartilidge thus preventing any future hematomas...so I wonder if your vet couldn't just drain the hematoma like he did before and then just use a local anesthetic to put in a few stitches? FYI, they do make a special kind of padding with a mesh screen backing that can be stitched onto the back of the ear to give it support while it heals thus helping to avoid cauliflower ear...and in the absence of that, our vet said you can use a Dr. Scholl's insert as a stand in... :) Jen "But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry "If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." -- Chief Dan George "The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long..." --Blade Runner - Original Message - From: Linda Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, December 6, 2006 10:27 am Subject: ear hematoma To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Hi - > > I have a feline leukemia positive, partially paralyzed > cat (Boo) who suffers from pressure sores on his bum. > He's been on antibiotics on & off for years due to his > paralysis induced pressure sores. Two weeks ago his > health declined when he developed a severe liver > infection and jaundice. Since then, with the addition > of 2 antibiotics & other meds, his health has improved > and the jaundice is greatly reduced. > > Unfortunately Boo has also developed an ear hematoma. > My vet has drained it with a syringe, but it has > filled back up with fluid, as she said it would. My > vet is telling me that the only way to completely fix > the hematoma is with surgery. Since his health is not > great I'm concerned about doing this. But his ear is > not getting better, and, although my vet has told me > that the hematoma won't effect his overall health, he > will develop a califlower ear and have issues with > cleaning the ear, if it's not corrected. > > Has anyone had any experience with a hematoma? Is > there any way to correct the problem without putting > Boo under anesthesia? > > Thanks, > Linda > > > > > ___ _ > Yahoo! Music Unlimited > Access over 1 million songs. > http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited >
Re: ear hematoma
Thanks - I'll see if my vet will try something other than an actual surgery. If she has to put him under I can't take that chance. Fortunately he's not a show cat so I guess the appearance of the ear doesn't really matter. I just feel bad for him because he's had such a rough life, with the paralysis and pressure sores. Poor little guy looks like he's been through a war. --- Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hematomas are usually not a big deal, and are easily > lanced and drained. The only > thing that is difficult with cats with hematomas is > that you should place a pressure > bandage on the ear, after it is packed with a roll > of gauze, then tape the ear down > on the roll, and wrap the head with bandages to keep > pressure on it so it doesn't > refill. On dogs, no problems, on cats... they think > you are killing them and fight > the bandages (plus their anatomy makes it difficult > to bandage the head without > limiting their ability to open their mouth). I would > think you could place a small > drain in the incision, and put a couple of stitches > in it, if the vet uses a really > small drain that is flexible and light, it shouldn't > bother the cat too much. You'll > have to keep an elizabeth collar on him until it's > removed so he doesn't pull it out. > The risk there is that the ear will tend to have a > "deflated balloon" look as it > heals. The pressure bandages help to hold the ear > shape as it heals. It's possible > you could use a piece of foam and ear glue with tape > (like they use for newly cropped > ears on dobermans) to try to save the ear shape as > it heals... without the pressure > bandages. The vet would have to put the drain in the > back of the ear, and cut the > foam to fit the inside of the ear, and glue it on, > then try to wrap the tape around > it without blocking the drain. I'd be willing to > give it a shot, but not sure if you > could convince your vet to try it (you could always > just have him do the surgery and > insert a drain in the back of the ear and then do > the aftercare at home yourself). > Chances are, you're going to end up with a wrinkled > ear though. Hopefully this isn't > a show cat > This page shows the basic method, of course, you > modify the size and shape of the > foam to do this to a cat: > http://www.semperfiboxers.com/semper_fi_boxers2_038.htm > > Phaewryn > > Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html > VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial > Assistance for cat owners: > http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html > Special Needs Cat Resources: > http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html > > > Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited
Re: ear hematoma
hematomas are usually not a big deal, and are easily lanced and drained. The only thing that is difficult with cats with hematomas is that you should place a pressure bandage on the ear, after it is packed with a roll of gauze, then tape the ear down on the roll, and wrap the head with bandages to keep pressure on it so it doesn't refill. On dogs, no problems, on cats... they think you are killing them and fight the bandages (plus their anatomy makes it difficult to bandage the head without limiting their ability to open their mouth). I would think you could place a small drain in the incision, and put a couple of stitches in it, if the vet uses a really small drain that is flexible and light, it shouldn't bother the cat too much. You'll have to keep an elizabeth collar on him until it's removed so he doesn't pull it out. The risk there is that the ear will tend to have a "deflated balloon" look as it heals. The pressure bandages help to hold the ear shape as it heals. It's possible you could use a piece of foam and ear glue with tape (like they use for newly cropped ears on dobermans) to try to save the ear shape as it heals... without the pressure bandages. The vet would have to put the drain in the back of the ear, and cut the foam to fit the inside of the ear, and glue it on, then try to wrap the tape around it without blocking the drain. I'd be willing to give it a shot, but not sure if you could convince your vet to try it (you could always just have him do the surgery and insert a drain in the back of the ear and then do the aftercare at home yourself). Chances are, you're going to end up with a wrinkled ear though. Hopefully this isn't a show cat This page shows the basic method, of course, you modify the size and shape of the foam to do this to a cat: http://www.semperfiboxers.com/semper_fi_boxers2_038.htm Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
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Boo's about 3 years old. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I am not saying not to do the surgery, because it > might be fine, but if the > hematoma does not hurt him, cauliflower ear really > is not a big deal. My > father has one from a high school wrestling injury > over 50 years ago and it has > never bothered him or even been very noticeable. > obviously it will be more > noticeable on a cat, but maybe not more bothersome > to him? > > How old is Boo? > > Michelle > > In a message dated 12/6/2006 11:26:38 A.M. Eastern > Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Hi - > > I have a feline leukemia positive, partially > paralyzed > cat (Boo) who suffers from pressure sores on his > bum. > He's been on antibiotics on & off for years due to > his > paralysis induced pressure sores. Two weeks ago > his > health declined when he developed a severe liver > infection and jaundice. Since then, with the > addition > of 2 antibiotics & other meds, his health has > improved > and the jaundice is greatly reduced. > > Unfortunately Boo has also developed an ear > hematoma. > My vet has drained it with a syringe, but it has > filled back up with fluid, as she said it would. > My > vet is telling me that the only way to completely > fix > the hematoma is with surgery. Since his health is > not > great I'm concerned about doing this. But his ear > is > not getting better, and, although my vet has told > me > that the hematoma won't effect his overall health, > he > will develop a califlower ear and have issues with > cleaning the ear, if it's not corrected. > > Has anyone had any experience with a hematoma? Is > there any way to correct the problem without > putting > Boo under anesthesia? > > Thanks, > Linda > > > > Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know.
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i've known many cats with cauliflower ears over the years--i know one that now looks like a scottish fold! no problems at all On 12/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am not saying not to do the surgery, because it might be fine, but if the hematoma does not hurt him, cauliflower ear really is not a big deal. My father has one from a high school wrestling injury over 50 years ago and it has never bothered him or even been very noticeable. obviously it will be more noticeable on a cat, but maybe not more bothersome to him? How old is Boo? Michelle In a message dated 12/6/2006 11:26:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi - I have a feline leukemia positive, partially paralyzed cat (Boo) who suffers from pressure sores on his bum. He's been on antibiotics on & off for years due to his paralysis induced pressure sores. Two weeks ago his health declined when he developed a severe liver infection and jaundice. Since then, with the addition of 2 antibiotics & other meds, his health has improved and the jaundice is greatly reduced. Unfortunately Boo has also developed an ear hematoma. My vet has drained it with a syringe, but it has filled back up with fluid, as she said it would. My vet is telling me that the only way to completely fix the hematoma is with surgery. Since his health is not great I'm concerned about doing this. But his ear is not getting better, and, although my vet has told me that the hematoma won't effect his overall health, he will develop a califlower ear and have issues with cleaning the ear, if it's not corrected. Has anyone had any experience with a hematoma? Is there any way to correct the problem without putting Boo under anesthesia? Thanks, Linda -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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I am not saying not to do the surgery, because it might be fine, but if the hematoma does not hurt him, cauliflower ear really is not a big deal. My father has one from a high school wrestling injury over 50 years ago and it has never bothered him or even been very noticeable. obviously it will be more noticeable on a cat, but maybe not more bothersome to him? How old is Boo? Michelle In a message dated 12/6/2006 11:26:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi - I have a feline leukemia positive, partially paralyzed cat (Boo) who suffers from pressure sores on his bum. He's been on antibiotics on & off for years due to his paralysis induced pressure sores. Two weeks ago his health declined when he developed a severe liver infection and jaundice. Since then, with the addition of 2 antibiotics & other meds, his health has improved and the jaundice is greatly reduced. Unfortunately Boo has also developed an ear hematoma. My vet has drained it with a syringe, but it has filled back up with fluid, as she said it would. My vet is telling me that the only way to completely fix the hematoma is with surgery. Since his health is not great I'm concerned about doing this. But his ear is not getting better, and, although my vet has told me that the hematoma won't effect his overall health, he will develop a califlower ear and have issues with cleaning the ear, if it's not corrected. Has anyone had any experience with a hematoma? Is there any way to correct the problem without putting Boo under anesthesia? Thanks, Linda
ear hematoma
Hi - I have a feline leukemia positive, partially paralyzed cat (Boo) who suffers from pressure sores on his bum. He's been on antibiotics on & off for years due to his paralysis induced pressure sores. Two weeks ago his health declined when he developed a severe liver infection and jaundice. Since then, with the addition of 2 antibiotics & other meds, his health has improved and the jaundice is greatly reduced. Unfortunately Boo has also developed an ear hematoma. My vet has drained it with a syringe, but it has filled back up with fluid, as she said it would. My vet is telling me that the only way to completely fix the hematoma is with surgery. Since his health is not great I'm concerned about doing this. But his ear is not getting better, and, although my vet has told me that the hematoma won't effect his overall health, he will develop a califlower ear and have issues with cleaning the ear, if it's not corrected. Has anyone had any experience with a hematoma? Is there any way to correct the problem without putting Boo under anesthesia? Thanks, Linda Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited
