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I couldn't agree more. They are the pharmaceutical industry's ally. It comes down to that. Pam elizabeth trent wrote: I'm really having a problem with the FDA. I don't think they have been fast enough or honest enough. They really have not impressed me as being my ally or my pet's ally. elizabeth On 5/4/07, *MaryChristine* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you're right--they will try to find some way to make money from it. that's why we're in this mess to START with. sigh. On 5/4/07, *Debi Holmes *[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it very hard to believe that they are going to keep this food that is making them no money in warehouses!!! Are they going to keep it there to kill the mice and rats?? */Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: One not so great thing about my phone call to Pet Food Direct... The woman I talked to suggested I donate the food to a shelter or rescue. Of course I told her that that wasn't a good idea. I certainly wouldn't want some orphan cat or pup eating something that I wouldn't feed my own kids. I have wondered too where all the recalled food is going, (besides the possibility of it being sold as salvage food for poultry and stockyards). Even if it is dumped, what about the birds and wildlife that would find it? When I was watching the committee hearings that you and Belinda alerted us to, the question was asked and we were told that it was being warehoused. I find little comfort in the assurances of big business, but I wish someone had thought to ask and what happens to it when you are ready to clear those warehouses? Nina MaryChristine wrote: has anyone heard anything about a SAFE way to dispose of the bad food? so it doesn't end up being fed to, say, cattle and pigs and other food animals? On 5/4/07, * Nina* wrote: Wow, I'm shocked at the service at Pet Food Direct. I called them asking about returning the unused portion of Triumph food I purchased from them and they told me to write to them including the UPS code from each of the varieties I feel uncomfortable about using and they would refund my account. I don't even have to send back the unused portion of my order. Thought I'd let you know in case the companies you are dealing with are as accommodating. It truly never hurts to ask. I guess I won't be choking down cat food and crackers after all. Nina Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM- -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: pet-food recall info
Wow, I'm shocked at the service at Pet Food Direct. I called them asking about returning the unused portion of Triumph food I purchased from them and they told me to write to them including the UPS code from each of the varieties I feel uncomfortable about using and they would refund my account. I don't even have to send back the unused portion of my order. Thought I'd let you know in case the companies you are dealing with are as accommodating. It truly never hurts to ask. I guess I won't be choking down cat food and crackers after all. Nina Nina wrote: Thanks MC. It would be much easier if a list was compiled with brands and foods that have been verified by testing to be safe. I have 3 cases of Triumph wet food, (not the particular flavors on the list), that I'm now afraid to feed. I'd eat them myself over crackers, but I'm not sure how much I'd like beef and salmon combined together, (maybe a little mayonnaise). Pretty soon some adventurer will start selling home-testing kits we can use before we set the food bowls down. Nina
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has anyone heard anything about a SAFE way to dispose of the bad food? so it doesn't end up being fed to, say, cattle and pigs and other food animals? On 5/4/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, I'm shocked at the service at Pet Food Direct. I called them asking about returning the unused portion of Triumph food I purchased from them and they told me to write to them including the UPS code from each of the varieties I feel uncomfortable about using and they would refund my account. I don't even have to send back the unused portion of my order. Thought I'd let you know in case the companies you are dealing with are as accommodating. It truly never hurts to ask. I guess I won't be choking down cat food and crackers after all. Nina Nina wrote: Thanks MC. It would be much easier if a list was compiled with brands and foods that have been verified by testing to be safe. I have 3 cases of Triumph wet food, (not the particular flavors on the list), that I'm now afraid to feed. I'd eat them myself over crackers, but I'm not sure how much I'd like beef and salmon combined together, (maybe a little mayonnaise). Pretty soon some adventurer will start selling home-testing kits we can use before we set the food bowls down. Nina -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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One not so great thing about my phone call to Pet Food Direct... The woman I talked to suggested I donate the food to a shelter or rescue. Of course I told her that that wasn't a good idea. I certainly wouldn't want some orphan cat or pup eating something that I wouldn't feed my own kids. I have wondered too where all the recalled food is going, (besides the possibility of it being sold as salvage food for poultry and stockyards). Even if it is dumped, what about the birds and wildlife that would find it? When I was watching the committee hearings that you and Belinda alerted us to, the question was asked and we were told that it was being warehoused. I find little comfort in the assurances of big business, but I wish someone had thought to ask and what happens to it when you are ready to clear those warehouses? Nina MaryChristine wrote: has anyone heard anything about a SAFE way to dispose of the bad food? so it doesn't end up being fed to, say, cattle and pigs and other food animals? On 5/4/07, * Nina* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, I'm shocked at the service at Pet Food Direct. I called them asking about returning the unused portion of Triumph food I purchased from them and they told me to write to them including the UPS code from each of the varieties I feel uncomfortable about using and they would refund my account. I don't even have to send back the unused portion of my order. Thought I'd let you know in case the companies you are dealing with are as accommodating. It truly never hurts to ask. I guess I won't be choking down cat food and crackers after all. Nina
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i'm just hoping that it doesn't end up in the hands of certain corporations that used to be texas-based, tho have now moved overseas--they'd probably recycle it into the school-lunch program. On 5/4/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One not so great thing about my phone call to Pet Food Direct... The woman I talked to suggested I donate the food to a shelter or rescue. Of course I told her that that wasn't a good idea. I certainly wouldn't want some orphan cat or pup eating something that I wouldn't feed my own kids. I have wondered too where all the recalled food is going, (besides the possibility of it being sold as salvage food for poultry and stockyards). Even if it is dumped, what about the birds and wildlife that would find it? When I was watching the committee hearings that you and Belinda alerted us to, the question was asked and we were told that it was being warehoused. I find little comfort in the assurances of big business, but I wish someone had thought to ask and what happens to it when you are ready to clear those warehouses? Nina MaryChristine wrote: has anyone heard anything about a SAFE way to dispose of the bad food? so it doesn't end up being fed to, say, cattle and pigs and other food animals? On 5/4/07, * Nina* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, I'm shocked at the service at Pet Food Direct. I called them asking about returning the unused portion of Triumph food I purchased from them and they told me to write to them including the UPS code from each of the varieties I feel uncomfortable about using and they would refund my account. I don't even have to send back the unused portion of my order. Thought I'd let you know in case the companies you are dealing with are as accommodating. It truly never hurts to ask. I guess I won't be choking down cat food and crackers after all. Nina -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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I find it very hard to believe that they are going to keep this food that is making them no money in warehouses!!! Are they going to keep it there to kill the mice and rats?? Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One not so great thing about my phone call to Pet Food Direct... The woman I talked to suggested I donate the food to a shelter or rescue. Of course I told her that that wasn't a good idea. I certainly wouldn't want some orphan cat or pup eating something that I wouldn't feed my own kids. I have wondered too where all the recalled food is going, (besides the possibility of it being sold as salvage food for poultry and stockyards). Even if it is dumped, what about the birds and wildlife that would find it? When I was watching the committee hearings that you and Belinda alerted us to, the question was asked and we were told that it was being warehoused. I find little comfort in the assurances of big business, but I wish someone had thought to ask and what happens to it when you are ready to clear those warehouses? Nina MaryChristine wrote: has anyone heard anything about a SAFE way to dispose of the bad food? so it doesn't end up being fed to, say, cattle and pigs and other food animals? On 5/4/07, * Nina* wrote: Wow, I'm shocked at the service at Pet Food Direct. I called them asking about returning the unused portion of Triumph food I purchased from them and they told me to write to them including the UPS code from each of the varieties I feel uncomfortable about using and they would refund my account. I don't even have to send back the unused portion of my order. Thought I'd let you know in case the companies you are dealing with are as accommodating. It truly never hurts to ask. I guess I won't be choking down cat food and crackers after all. Nina - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: pet-food recall info
you're right--they will try to find some way to make money from it. that's why we're in this mess to START with. sigh. On 5/4/07, Debi Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it very hard to believe that they are going to keep this food that is making them no money in warehouses!!! Are they going to keep it there to kill the mice and rats?? *Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: One not so great thing about my phone call to Pet Food Direct... The woman I talked to suggested I donate the food to a shelter or rescue. Of course I told her that that wasn't a good idea. I certainly wouldn't want some orphan cat or pup eating something that I wouldn't feed my own kids. I have wondered too where all the recalled food is going, (besides the possibility of it being sold as salvage food for poultry and stockyards). Even if it is dumped, what about the birds and wildlife that would find it? When I was watching the committee hearings that you and Belinda alerted us to, the question was asked and we were told that it was being warehoused. I find little comfort in the assurances of big business, but I wish someone had thought to ask and what happens to it when you are ready to clear those warehouses? Nina MaryChristine wrote: has anyone heard anything about a SAFE way to dispose of the bad food? so it doesn't end up being fed to, say, cattle and pigs and other food animals? On 5/4/07, * Nina* wrote: Wow, I'm shocked at the service at Pet Food Direct. I called them asking about returning the unused portion of Triumph food I purchased from them and they told me to write to them including the UPS code from each of the varieties I feel uncomfortable about using and they would refund my account. I don't even have to send back the unused portion of my order. Thought I'd let you know in case the companies you are dealing with are as accommodating. It truly never hurts to ask. I guess I won't be choking down cat food and crackers after all. Nina -- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM- -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: pet-food recall info
I'm really having a problem with the FDA. I don't think they have been fast enough or honest enough. They really have not impressed me as being my ally or my pet's ally. elizabeth On 5/4/07, MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you're right--they will try to find some way to make money from it. that's why we're in this mess to START with. sigh. On 5/4/07, Debi Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it very hard to believe that they are going to keep this food that is making them no money in warehouses!!! Are they going to keep it there to kill the mice and rats?? *Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: One not so great thing about my phone call to Pet Food Direct... The woman I talked to suggested I donate the food to a shelter or rescue. Of course I told her that that wasn't a good idea. I certainly wouldn't want some orphan cat or pup eating something that I wouldn't feed my own kids. I have wondered too where all the recalled food is going, (besides the possibility of it being sold as salvage food for poultry and stockyards). Even if it is dumped, what about the birds and wildlife that would find it? When I was watching the committee hearings that you and Belinda alerted us to, the question was asked and we were told that it was being warehoused. I find little comfort in the assurances of big business, but I wish someone had thought to ask and what happens to it when you are ready to clear those warehouses? Nina MaryChristine wrote: has anyone heard anything about a SAFE way to dispose of the bad food? so it doesn't end up being fed to, say, cattle and pigs and other food animals? On 5/4/07, * Nina* wrote: Wow, I'm shocked at the service at Pet Food Direct. I called them asking about returning the unused portion of Triumph food I purchased from them and they told me to write to them including the UPS code from each of the varieties I feel uncomfortable about using and they would refund my account. I don't even have to send back the unused portion of my order. Thought I'd let you know in case the companies you are dealing with are as accommodating. It truly never hurts to ask. I guess I won't be choking down cat food and crackers after all. Nina -- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM- -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: pet-food recall info
Thanks MC. It would be much easier if a list was compiled with brands and foods that have been verified by testing to be safe. I have 3 cases of Triumph wet food, (not the particular flavors on the list), that I'm now afraid to feed. I'd eat them myself over crackers, but I'm not sure how much I'd like beef and salmon combined together, (maybe a little mayonnaise). Pretty soon some adventurer will start selling home-testing kits we can use before we set the food bowls down. Nina MaryChristine wrote: www.howl911.com http://www.howl911.com hasn't been updated in a few days; not sure why. www.itchmo.com http://www.itchmo.com seems to have the most up-to-date info; and you can sign up for email alerts. MC
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I tried some Evo last night (entirely accidentally) but the cats love it, except Sugar, who I don't think realizes it is food. On 5/3/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks MC. It would be much easier if a list was compiled with brands and foods that have been verified by testing to be safe. I have 3 cases of Triumph wet food, (not the particular flavors on the list), that I'm now afraid to feed. I'd eat them myself over crackers, but I'm not sure how much I'd like beef and salmon combined together, (maybe a little mayonnaise). Pretty soon some adventurer will start selling home-testing kits we can use before we set the food bowls down. Nina MaryChristine wrote: www.howl911.com hasn't been updated in a few days; not sure why. www.itchmo.com seems to have the most up-to-date info; and you can sign up for email alerts. MC -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Gandalf! http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty
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You forgot the crackers and mayonnaise! Kelley Saveika wrote: I tried some Evo last night (entirely accidentally) but the cats love it, except Sugar, who I don't think realizes it is food. On 5/3/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks MC. It would be much easier if a list was compiled with brands and foods that have been verified by testing to be safe. I have 3 cases of Triumph wet food, (not the particular flavors on the list), that I'm now afraid to feed. I'd eat them myself over crackers, but I'm not sure how much I'd like beef and salmon combined together, (maybe a little mayonnaise). Pretty soon some adventurer will start selling home-testing kits we can use before we set the food bowls down. Nina
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I finally got 3 of my cats to eat the Evo. Katie's (my diabetic cat)true brother Simon was diagnosed as being diabetic on Sunday so the vet said I needed to get him to eat the Evo because it is low carbs. Katie won't touch it but Simon, Nick and Tabby Cat are starting to eat it now. I can't believe I have 2 diabetic cats and Nick is another true brother so eventually I may have 3. I am so relieved they are eating the EVO especially Simon because it is better for him. Cindy Reasoner --- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You forgot the crackers and mayonnaise! Kelley Saveika wrote: I tried some Evo last night (entirely accidentally) but the cats love it, except Sugar, who I don't think realizes it is food. On 5/3/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks MC. It would be much easier if a list was compiled with brands and foods that have been verified by testing to be safe. I have 3 cases of Triumph wet food, (not the particular flavors on the list), that I'm now afraid to feed. I'd eat them myself over crackers, but I'm not sure how much I'd like beef and salmon combined together, (maybe a little mayonnaise). Pretty soon some adventurer will start selling home-testing kits we can use before we set the food bowls down. Nina __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Ask your vet about feeding raw. Primal has cubes that you thaw..no fuss, no mess and, for those of us who have meat only for the cats, no having to deal with it. According to my Junior Partner, Dixie Louise, the stuff is great mixed with some water and lots of chopped broccoli. For her, the price is less than Fancy Feast or EVO because it is so concentrated (the reason for adding some water). If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 1:22 PM Subject: Re: pet-food recall info I finally got 3 of my cats to eat the Evo. Katie's (my diabetic cat)true brother Simon was diagnosed as being diabetic on Sunday so the vet said I needed to get him to eat the Evo because it is low carbs. Katie won't touch it but Simon, Nick and Tabby Cat are starting to eat it now. I can't believe I have 2 diabetic cats and Nick is another true brother so eventually I may have 3. I am so relieved they are eating the EVO especially Simon because it is better for him. Cindy Reasoner --- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You forgot the crackers and mayonnaise! Kelley Saveika wrote: I tried some Evo last night (entirely accidentally) but the cats love it, except Sugar, who I don't think realizes it is food. On 5/3/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks MC. It would be much easier if a list was compiled with brands and foods that have been verified by testing to be safe. I have 3 cases of Triumph wet food, (not the particular flavors on the list), that I'm now afraid to feed. I'd eat them myself over crackers, but I'm not sure how much I'd like beef and salmon combined together, (maybe a little mayonnaise). Pretty soon some adventurer will start selling home-testing kits we can use before we set the food bowls down. Nina __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
pet-food recall info
www.howl911.com hasn't been updated in a few days; not sure why. www.itchmo.com seems to have the most up-to-date info; and you can sign up for email alerts. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892