Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/5] configure: Add option for enabling LC3/LC3plus wrapper

2024-03-27 Thread Stefano Sabatini
On date Tuesday 2024-03-26 23:07:53 +, ffmpeg-devel Mailing List wrote:
> Signed-off-by: Antoine Soulier 
> ---
>  configure | 6 ++
>  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)

still LGTM but should be merged with the encoder/decoder patch

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/5] configure: Add option for enabling LC3/LC3plus wrapper

2024-03-26 Thread Antoine Soulier via ffmpeg-devel
Compared with the C implementation of KissFFT (it's the only one I tested
on ARM M4).
Yes, there is no SIMD on x86. This was not the main target.
Was mainly made for ARM M4 (for BLE devices Nordic Semi / Zephyr), and ARM
Neon (Android).
By the way, this does not change a lot, the FFT/MDCT on powerful CPU's is
marginal compared to the read/write of the bitstream arithmetically coded.
We can perhaps connect the FFMpeg implementation, but it will probably miss
2 things:
- Some transformations are not a multiple of 15, but only 5 * 2^n. I guess
FFmpeg only has a base 15 implementation.
- It uses asymmetric windowing, to reduce algorithmic delay. Some
coefficients are zeroed. Not important, but will need a larger coefficients
table, and a bunch of multiplication by 0, without a specific
implementation.
So I think it will need some work.

On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 10:45 AM Paul B Mahol  wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 6:07 PM Antoine Soulier 
> wrote:
>
>> What do you mean by sub-optimal?
>> It's stacked by prime factors, and unrolled for FFT3 and FF5.
>> The butterfly implementations of FFT3 and FF5, gives me slightly slower
>> computation. FFT5 is done first, so it takes advantage of sin()/cos()
>> values of 0 or 1.
>> There are also no reordering steps (this stage is completely removed),
>> but cannot run in-place.
>> Benchmarks I made show that it runs slightly faster.
>>
>
> Compared with what?
> Where is at least x86 SIMD for that MDCT?
>
>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 9:59 AM Paul B Mahol  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Isn't this using sub-optimal MDCT implementation?
>>>
>>
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/5] configure: Add option for enabling LC3/LC3plus wrapper

2024-03-26 Thread Paul B Mahol
On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 6:07 PM Antoine Soulier  wrote:

> What do you mean by sub-optimal?
> It's stacked by prime factors, and unrolled for FFT3 and FF5.
> The butterfly implementations of FFT3 and FF5, gives me slightly slower
> computation. FFT5 is done first, so it takes advantage of sin()/cos()
> values of 0 or 1.
> There are also no reordering steps (this stage is completely removed), but
> cannot run in-place.
> Benchmarks I made show that it runs slightly faster.
>

Compared with what?
Where is at least x86 SIMD for that MDCT?


>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 9:59 AM Paul B Mahol  wrote:
>
>>
>> Isn't this using sub-optimal MDCT implementation?
>>
>
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/5] configure: Add option for enabling LC3/LC3plus wrapper

2024-03-26 Thread Antoine Soulier via ffmpeg-devel
Arf, sorry for that. I used `git send-email -s`, perhaps it's the source of
the double signed-off.

On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 10:32 AM Stefano Sabatini 
wrote:

> On date Tuesday 2024-03-26 16:47:35 +, ffmpeg-devel Mailing List wrote:
>
> > Signed-off-by: Antoine Soulier 
> > Signed-off-by: Antoine SOULIER 
>
> why the double sign-off?
>
> [...]
>
> LGTM.
>
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/5] configure: Add option for enabling LC3/LC3plus wrapper

2024-03-26 Thread Stefano Sabatini
On date Tuesday 2024-03-26 16:47:35 +, ffmpeg-devel Mailing List wrote:

> Signed-off-by: Antoine Soulier 
> Signed-off-by: Antoine SOULIER 

why the double sign-off?

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LGTM.
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/5] configure: Add option for enabling LC3/LC3plus wrapper

2024-03-26 Thread Antoine Soulier via ffmpeg-devel
What do you mean by sub-optimal?
It's stacked by prime factors, and unrolled for FFT3 and FF5.
The butterfly implementations of FFT3 and FF5, gives me slightly slower
computation. FFT5 is done first, so it takes advantage of sin()/cos()
values of 0 or 1.
There are also no reordering steps (this stage is completely removed), but
cannot run in-place.
Benchmarks I made show that it runs slightly faster.

On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 9:59 AM Paul B Mahol  wrote:

>
> Isn't this using sub-optimal MDCT implementation?
>
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/5] configure: Add option for enabling LC3/LC3plus wrapper

2024-03-26 Thread Paul B Mahol
Isn't this using sub-optimal MDCT implementation?
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