Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Outreachy 2016 december

2016-08-22 Thread Michael Niedermayer 
On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 08:17:48PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 11:12:20AM +0200, Paul B Mahol wrote:
> > On 8/18/16, Michael Niedermayer  wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 11:27:49PM +0530, Umair Khan wrote:
> > >> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 9:54 PM, Michael Niedermayer
> > >>  wrote:
> > >> > On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 09:16:16PM +0530, Umair Khan wrote:
> > >> >> Hi,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Michael Niedermayer
> > >> >>  wrote:
> > >> >> > On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 07:18:13PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 11:25:21PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer
> > >> >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> >> > Hi all
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > The next Outreachy round starts soon
> > >> >> >> > FFmpeg has till august 22 IIUC (https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/)
> > >> >> >> > to express interrest to participate.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > We need an admin and backup admins.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> ping!
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > ping2
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > so far the only person doing anything was compn
> > >> >> > https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/Outreachy/2016-12?action=history
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I think there are 2 questions that the community needs to awnser
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > first, should FFmpeg be participating in the december 2016 round
> > >> >> > of Outreachy ?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > If so, some people need to come forth with projects to mentor.
> > >> >> > Ive previously asked people privatly one by one i wont do that this
> > >> >> > time its a surprissingly large amount of work and anyone else, even
> > >> >> > a non programer could ask / organize this and probably better than i
> > >> >> > can, asking people is not by strong side ...
> > >> >> > And someone needs to come forth as "Admin"
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Second is the question, which project ideas the community wants and
> > >> >> > which we do not want.
> > >> >> > To me it appeard that there was a disparity between objections to
> > >> >> > proojects and suggestions for projects. I think we need more people
> > >> >> > suggesting projects and volunteering to mentor than objections
> > >> >> > against
> > >> >> > project ideas
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Thanks
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > PS: keep in mind august 22 is the official deadline for FFmpeg to
> > >> >> > join IIUC. We need some project idea with a mentor first before any
> > >> >> > potential admin would contact the Outreachy admins for joining i
> > >> >> > suspect ...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I'd love to mentor some *easy* project in the Outreachy program
> > >> >> definitely. May be I can even get some students to apply to the
> > >> >> program.
> > >> >
> > >> > that would be great, do you have any specific ideas for a easy
> > >> > project ?
> > >>
> > >> I currently have no ideas in mind.
> > >> I myself have a lot of experience with AOSP (Android Open Source), may
> > >> be something related to that?
> > >
> > > android or AOSP related projects surely would be interresting
> > >
> > 
> > I added relatively simple task to the page I will mentor, If nobody
> > wants to be an admin,
> > I can, but I need to know what boring paperwork I need to do _before_
> > I apply for the admin.
> 
> IIRC outreachy has no true concept of "admin" everyone is just a mentor
> The need for an admin is more a need from our side as some tasks
> (which no mentor tends to feel responsible for) need to be done by
> someone
> 
> mentor agreement information is at:
> https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/Agreements
> 
> i can probably co admin if wanted, but i do not want to be the primary
> admin

do we have a admin (also called coordinator) now ?
did someone contact the outreachy admins about FFmpeg participating ?
(if someone does please keep ffmpeg-devel in CC)

the deadline for organizations to join is today according to
https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/Admin/InfoForOrgs

also theres usefull information at:
https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/Admin/GettingStarted

Thanks

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Outreachy 2016 december

2016-08-19 Thread Michael Niedermayer 
On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 11:12:20AM +0200, Paul B Mahol wrote:
> On 8/18/16, Michael Niedermayer  wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 11:27:49PM +0530, Umair Khan wrote:
> >> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 9:54 PM, Michael Niedermayer
> >>  wrote:
> >> > On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 09:16:16PM +0530, Umair Khan wrote:
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Michael Niedermayer
> >> >>  wrote:
> >> >> > On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 07:18:13PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 11:25:21PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > Hi all
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The next Outreachy round starts soon
> >> >> >> > FFmpeg has till august 22 IIUC (https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/)
> >> >> >> > to express interrest to participate.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > We need an admin and backup admins.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ping!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ping2
> >> >> >
> >> >> > so far the only person doing anything was compn
> >> >> > https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/Outreachy/2016-12?action=history
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I think there are 2 questions that the community needs to awnser
> >> >> >
> >> >> > first, should FFmpeg be participating in the december 2016 round
> >> >> > of Outreachy ?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If so, some people need to come forth with projects to mentor.
> >> >> > Ive previously asked people privatly one by one i wont do that this
> >> >> > time its a surprissingly large amount of work and anyone else, even
> >> >> > a non programer could ask / organize this and probably better than i
> >> >> > can, asking people is not by strong side ...
> >> >> > And someone needs to come forth as "Admin"
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Second is the question, which project ideas the community wants and
> >> >> > which we do not want.
> >> >> > To me it appeard that there was a disparity between objections to
> >> >> > proojects and suggestions for projects. I think we need more people
> >> >> > suggesting projects and volunteering to mentor than objections
> >> >> > against
> >> >> > project ideas
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >
> >> >> > PS: keep in mind august 22 is the official deadline for FFmpeg to
> >> >> > join IIUC. We need some project idea with a mentor first before any
> >> >> > potential admin would contact the Outreachy admins for joining i
> >> >> > suspect ...
> >> >>
> >> >> I'd love to mentor some *easy* project in the Outreachy program
> >> >> definitely. May be I can even get some students to apply to the
> >> >> program.
> >> >
> >> > that would be great, do you have any specific ideas for a easy
> >> > project ?
> >>
> >> I currently have no ideas in mind.
> >> I myself have a lot of experience with AOSP (Android Open Source), may
> >> be something related to that?
> >
> > android or AOSP related projects surely would be interresting
> >
> 
> I added relatively simple task to the page I will mentor, If nobody
> wants to be an admin,
> I can, but I need to know what boring paperwork I need to do _before_
> I apply for the admin.

IIRC outreachy has no true concept of "admin" everyone is just a mentor
The need for an admin is more a need from our side as some tasks
(which no mentor tends to feel responsible for) need to be done by
someone

mentor agreement information is at:
https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/Agreements

i can probably co admin if wanted, but i do not want to be the primary
admin

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Outreachy 2016 december

2016-08-19 Thread Paul B Mahol 
On 8/18/16, Michael Niedermayer  wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 11:27:49PM +0530, Umair Khan wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 9:54 PM, Michael Niedermayer
>>  wrote:
>> > On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 09:16:16PM +0530, Umair Khan wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Michael Niedermayer
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> > On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 07:18:13PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>> >> >> On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 11:25:21PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > Hi all
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The next Outreachy round starts soon
>> >> >> > FFmpeg has till august 22 IIUC (https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/)
>> >> >> > to express interrest to participate.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > We need an admin and backup admins.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ping!
>> >> >
>> >> > ping2
>> >> >
>> >> > so far the only person doing anything was compn
>> >> > https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/Outreachy/2016-12?action=history
>> >> >
>> >> > I think there are 2 questions that the community needs to awnser
>> >> >
>> >> > first, should FFmpeg be participating in the december 2016 round
>> >> > of Outreachy ?
>> >> >
>> >> > If so, some people need to come forth with projects to mentor.
>> >> > Ive previously asked people privatly one by one i wont do that this
>> >> > time its a surprissingly large amount of work and anyone else, even
>> >> > a non programer could ask / organize this and probably better than i
>> >> > can, asking people is not by strong side ...
>> >> > And someone needs to come forth as "Admin"
>> >> >
>> >> > Second is the question, which project ideas the community wants and
>> >> > which we do not want.
>> >> > To me it appeard that there was a disparity between objections to
>> >> > proojects and suggestions for projects. I think we need more people
>> >> > suggesting projects and volunteering to mentor than objections
>> >> > against
>> >> > project ideas
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> >
>> >> > PS: keep in mind august 22 is the official deadline for FFmpeg to
>> >> > join IIUC. We need some project idea with a mentor first before any
>> >> > potential admin would contact the Outreachy admins for joining i
>> >> > suspect ...
>> >>
>> >> I'd love to mentor some *easy* project in the Outreachy program
>> >> definitely. May be I can even get some students to apply to the
>> >> program.
>> >
>> > that would be great, do you have any specific ideas for a easy
>> > project ?
>>
>> I currently have no ideas in mind.
>> I myself have a lot of experience with AOSP (Android Open Source), may
>> be something related to that?
>
> android or AOSP related projects surely would be interresting
>

I added relatively simple task to the page I will mentor, If nobody
wants to be an admin,
I can, but I need to know what boring paperwork I need to do _before_
I apply for the admin.
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Outreachy 2016 december

2016-08-18 Thread Michael Niedermayer 
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 11:27:49PM +0530, Umair Khan wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 9:54 PM, Michael Niedermayer
>  wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 09:16:16PM +0530, Umair Khan wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Michael Niedermayer
> >>  wrote:
> >> > On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 07:18:13PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 11:25:21PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> >> >> > Hi all
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The next Outreachy round starts soon
> >> >> > FFmpeg has till august 22 IIUC (https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/)
> >> >> > to express interrest to participate.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > We need an admin and backup admins.
> >> >>
> >> >> ping!
> >> >
> >> > ping2
> >> >
> >> > so far the only person doing anything was compn
> >> > https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/Outreachy/2016-12?action=history
> >> >
> >> > I think there are 2 questions that the community needs to awnser
> >> >
> >> > first, should FFmpeg be participating in the december 2016 round
> >> > of Outreachy ?
> >> >
> >> > If so, some people need to come forth with projects to mentor.
> >> > Ive previously asked people privatly one by one i wont do that this
> >> > time its a surprissingly large amount of work and anyone else, even
> >> > a non programer could ask / organize this and probably better than i
> >> > can, asking people is not by strong side ...
> >> > And someone needs to come forth as "Admin"
> >> >
> >> > Second is the question, which project ideas the community wants and
> >> > which we do not want.
> >> > To me it appeard that there was a disparity between objections to
> >> > proojects and suggestions for projects. I think we need more people
> >> > suggesting projects and volunteering to mentor than objections against
> >> > project ideas
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > PS: keep in mind august 22 is the official deadline for FFmpeg to
> >> > join IIUC. We need some project idea with a mentor first before any
> >> > potential admin would contact the Outreachy admins for joining i
> >> > suspect ...
> >>
> >> I'd love to mentor some *easy* project in the Outreachy program
> >> definitely. May be I can even get some students to apply to the
> >> program.
> >
> > that would be great, do you have any specific ideas for a easy
> > project ?
> 
> I currently have no ideas in mind.
> I myself have a lot of experience with AOSP (Android Open Source), may
> be something related to that?

android or AOSP related projects surely would be interresting


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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Outreachy 2016 december

2016-08-18 Thread Umair Khan 
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 9:54 PM, Michael Niedermayer
 wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 09:16:16PM +0530, Umair Khan wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Michael Niedermayer
>>  wrote:
>> > On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 07:18:13PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>> >> On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 11:25:21PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>> >> > Hi all
>> >> >
>> >> > The next Outreachy round starts soon
>> >> > FFmpeg has till august 22 IIUC (https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/)
>> >> > to express interrest to participate.
>> >> >
>> >> > We need an admin and backup admins.
>> >>
>> >> ping!
>> >
>> > ping2
>> >
>> > so far the only person doing anything was compn
>> > https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/Outreachy/2016-12?action=history
>> >
>> > I think there are 2 questions that the community needs to awnser
>> >
>> > first, should FFmpeg be participating in the december 2016 round
>> > of Outreachy ?
>> >
>> > If so, some people need to come forth with projects to mentor.
>> > Ive previously asked people privatly one by one i wont do that this
>> > time its a surprissingly large amount of work and anyone else, even
>> > a non programer could ask / organize this and probably better than i
>> > can, asking people is not by strong side ...
>> > And someone needs to come forth as "Admin"
>> >
>> > Second is the question, which project ideas the community wants and
>> > which we do not want.
>> > To me it appeard that there was a disparity between objections to
>> > proojects and suggestions for projects. I think we need more people
>> > suggesting projects and volunteering to mentor than objections against
>> > project ideas
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > PS: keep in mind august 22 is the official deadline for FFmpeg to
>> > join IIUC. We need some project idea with a mentor first before any
>> > potential admin would contact the Outreachy admins for joining i
>> > suspect ...
>>
>> I'd love to mentor some *easy* project in the Outreachy program
>> definitely. May be I can even get some students to apply to the
>> program.
>
> that would be great, do you have any specific ideas for a easy
> project ?

I currently have no ideas in mind.
I myself have a lot of experience with AOSP (Android Open Source), may
be something related to that?
I saw some patches related to MediaCodec API some days back.

- Umair
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Outreachy 2016 december

2016-08-18 Thread Michael Niedermayer 
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 03:58:59PM -0400, compn wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 18:24:09 +0200
> Michael Niedermayer  wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 09:16:16PM +0530, Umair Khan wrote:
> > > I'd love to mentor some *easy* project in the Outreachy program
> > > definitely. May be I can even get some students to apply to the
> > > program.
> > 
> > that would be great, do you have any specific ideas for a easy
> > project ?
> 
> reviewing all (or maybe 500) bugs in trac, testing with latest git
> version and updating or closing old bugs?

if carl thinks this makes sense then it should be added to the Outreachy
page IMHO

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Outreachy 2016 december

2016-08-18 Thread Ronald S. Bultje 
Hi,

On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 8:03 AM, Michael Niedermayer  wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 07:18:13PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 11:25:21PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > The next Outreachy round starts soon
> > > FFmpeg has till august 22 IIUC (https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/)
> > > to express interrest to participate.
> > >
> > > We need an admin and backup admins.
> >
> > ping!
>
> ping2
>
> so far the only person doing anything was compn
> https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/Outreachy/
> 2016-12?action=history
>
> I think there are 2 questions that the community needs to awnser
>
> first, should FFmpeg be participating in the december 2016 round
> of Outreachy ?
>
> If so, some people need to come forth with projects to mentor.


I have proposed vp8a/vp9a support. An appropriate qualification task is to
detect the appropriate segment from the AVPacket input in the native ffvp9
or ffvp8 decoder (it's identical in both, so one is enough) and extend the
AVFrame output to contain an empty alpha plane. That patch should go
through a few cycles of review although it's unlikely to be applied by
itself.

However, I'm on vacation and my internet isn't great so I can't edit the
wiki by myself. So for this to work, someone else needs to edit the wiki
for me. I also won't be on IRC much until end of this month.

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Outreachy 2016 december

2016-08-17 Thread compn 
On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 18:24:09 +0200
Michael Niedermayer  wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 09:16:16PM +0530, Umair Khan wrote:
> > I'd love to mentor some *easy* project in the Outreachy program
> > definitely. May be I can even get some students to apply to the
> > program.
> 
> that would be great, do you have any specific ideas for a easy
> project ?

reviewing all (or maybe 500) bugs in trac, testing with latest git
version and updating or closing old bugs?

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Outreachy 2016 december

2016-08-17 Thread Michael Niedermayer 
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 09:16:16PM +0530, Umair Khan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Michael Niedermayer
>  wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 07:18:13PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> >> On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 11:25:21PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> >> > Hi all
> >> >
> >> > The next Outreachy round starts soon
> >> > FFmpeg has till august 22 IIUC (https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/)
> >> > to express interrest to participate.
> >> >
> >> > We need an admin and backup admins.
> >>
> >> ping!
> >
> > ping2
> >
> > so far the only person doing anything was compn
> > https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/Outreachy/2016-12?action=history
> >
> > I think there are 2 questions that the community needs to awnser
> >
> > first, should FFmpeg be participating in the december 2016 round
> > of Outreachy ?
> >
> > If so, some people need to come forth with projects to mentor.
> > Ive previously asked people privatly one by one i wont do that this
> > time its a surprissingly large amount of work and anyone else, even
> > a non programer could ask / organize this and probably better than i
> > can, asking people is not by strong side ...
> > And someone needs to come forth as "Admin"
> >
> > Second is the question, which project ideas the community wants and
> > which we do not want.
> > To me it appeard that there was a disparity between objections to
> > proojects and suggestions for projects. I think we need more people
> > suggesting projects and volunteering to mentor than objections against
> > project ideas
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > PS: keep in mind august 22 is the official deadline for FFmpeg to
> > join IIUC. We need some project idea with a mentor first before any
> > potential admin would contact the Outreachy admins for joining i
> > suspect ...
> 
> I'd love to mentor some *easy* project in the Outreachy program
> definitely. May be I can even get some students to apply to the
> program.

that would be great, do you have any specific ideas for a easy
project ?

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Outreachy 2016 december

2016-08-17 Thread Umair Khan 
Hi,

On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Michael Niedermayer
 wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 07:18:13PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 11:25:21PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>> > Hi all
>> >
>> > The next Outreachy round starts soon
>> > FFmpeg has till august 22 IIUC (https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/)
>> > to express interrest to participate.
>> >
>> > We need an admin and backup admins.
>>
>> ping!
>
> ping2
>
> so far the only person doing anything was compn
> https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/Outreachy/2016-12?action=history
>
> I think there are 2 questions that the community needs to awnser
>
> first, should FFmpeg be participating in the december 2016 round
> of Outreachy ?
>
> If so, some people need to come forth with projects to mentor.
> Ive previously asked people privatly one by one i wont do that this
> time its a surprissingly large amount of work and anyone else, even
> a non programer could ask / organize this and probably better than i
> can, asking people is not by strong side ...
> And someone needs to come forth as "Admin"
>
> Second is the question, which project ideas the community wants and
> which we do not want.
> To me it appeard that there was a disparity between objections to
> proojects and suggestions for projects. I think we need more people
> suggesting projects and volunteering to mentor than objections against
> project ideas
>
> Thanks
>
> PS: keep in mind august 22 is the official deadline for FFmpeg to
> join IIUC. We need some project idea with a mentor first before any
> potential admin would contact the Outreachy admins for joining i
> suspect ...

I'd love to mentor some *easy* project in the Outreachy program
definitely. May be I can even get some students to apply to the
program.

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Outreachy 2016 december

2016-08-17 Thread Michael Niedermayer 
On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 07:18:13PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 11:25:21PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > Hi all
> > 
> > The next Outreachy round starts soon
> > FFmpeg has till august 22 IIUC (https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/)
> > to express interrest to participate.
> > 
> > We need an admin and backup admins.
> 
> ping!

ping2

so far the only person doing anything was compn
https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/Outreachy/2016-12?action=history

I think there are 2 questions that the community needs to awnser

first, should FFmpeg be participating in the december 2016 round
of Outreachy ?

If so, some people need to come forth with projects to mentor.
Ive previously asked people privatly one by one i wont do that this
time its a surprissingly large amount of work and anyone else, even
a non programer could ask / organize this and probably better than i
can, asking people is not by strong side ...
And someone needs to come forth as "Admin"

Second is the question, which project ideas the community wants and
which we do not want.
To me it appeard that there was a disparity between objections to
proojects and suggestions for projects. I think we need more people
suggesting projects and volunteering to mentor than objections against
project ideas

Thanks

PS: keep in mind august 22 is the official deadline for FFmpeg to
join IIUC. We need some project idea with a mentor first before any
potential admin would contact the Outreachy admins for joining i
suspect ...

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Outreachy 2016 december

2016-08-07 Thread Michael Niedermayer 
Hi

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 03:31:04PM +0530, Mayank Agarwal wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I want to contribute to Outreachy this time.It can be in any form be it
> admin,testing,development,etc
> I can easily devote 2,3 hrs per day for this task.It can be more also
> depending on some task

If you want to help, theres the outreachy ideas page
https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/Outreachy/2016-12
dates missing, its not even linked from the main page that links to
the other pages
it also lists no project ideas, some developers listed ideas here on
the ML, maybe you can make them actually add the ideas to the page.

so there is alot of very easy and some less easy things that need to
be done to get the page into shape the wiki can be edited by anyone
who registers

Thanks

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Outreachy 2016 december

2016-07-31 Thread Mayank Agarwal 
Hi,

I want to contribute to Outreachy this time.It can be in any form be it
admin,testing,development,etc
I can easily devote 2,3 hrs per day for this task.It can be more also
depending on some task

Regards
Mayank

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 2:55 AM, Michael Niedermayer 
wrote:

> Hi all
>
> The next Outreachy round starts soon
> FFmpeg has till august 22 IIUC (https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/)
> to express interrest to participate.
>
> We need an admin and backup admins.
> They need to create the wiki page(s) for this round, and make sure
> the pages are in shape by the time applicants start pouring in.
> make sure applicants questions (like "[FFmpeg-devel] need guidance")
> get awnsered
> recruite mentors,
> secure funding (as in confirming with the community and stefano that
> SPI/FFIS funding can be used for one slot or find another sponsor)
> contact the Outreachy admins and express that FFmpeg wants to
> participate, ...
> Reply to any questions the outreachy admins have
> Make sure that during the project nothing goes wrong like a mentor
> disappearing and if something goes wrong deal with it
>
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Outreachy 2016 december

2016-07-25 Thread Stefano Sabatini 
In date Friday 2016-07-22 19:18:13 +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 11:25:21PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > Hi all
> > 
> > The next Outreachy round starts soon
> > FFmpeg has till august 22 IIUC (https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/)
> > to express interrest to participate.
> > 
> > We need an admin and backup admins.
> 
> ping!
> 
> 
> > They need to create the wiki page(s) for this round, and make sure
> > the pages are in shape by the time applicants start pouring in.
> > make sure applicants questions (like "[FFmpeg-devel] need guidance")
> > get awnsered
> > recruite mentors,
> 
> > secure funding (as in confirming with the community and stefano that
> > SPI/FFIS funding can be used for one slot or find another sponsor)
> 

> @stefano, do we have funding for a slot in the next outreachy round?

From the last published SPI report (2016-01-31), this is the available
fund amount (in USD):

   FFmpeg 6,008.31
   FFmpeg (Outreachy)   169.17

Considering that we provided a few refunds and received several
donations you can expect the FFmpeg fund to have more or less the same
amount at the present time.

While the ffis.de fund still contains 9129.56 (EUR).

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Outreachy 2016 december

2016-07-24 Thread Michael Niedermayer 
Hi

On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 03:36:53PM -0700, Yayoi Ukai wrote:
> On Jul 22, 2016 10:18 AM, "Michael Niedermayer" 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 11:25:21PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > The next Outreachy round starts soon
> > > FFmpeg has till august 22 IIUC (https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/)
> > > to express interrest to participate.
> > >
> > > We need an admin and backup admins.
> >
> > ping!
> 
> Hi everyone!
> 
> I'm happy to help with the administrative tasks of this project. As far as
> Outreachy goes, I will not be able to fully commit as a participant. I can
> help with fundraising, recruitment, and any administrarative tasks that you
> would like me to assist with. I would be happy to contribute code, but I
> would be limited to 10 hours per week working on small coding projects. I
> attempted to familiarise myself with Trac, but there are still some aspects
> of it I need guidance with. If there are any documentation available that I
> am not aware of, I would be happy to review it.

about trac in general there is:
https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/TracGuide

but simply looking at some existing trac wiki page (by clicking on
"Edit this page" but not changing it just looking at whats there
for various constructs) should explain the trac wiki well enough
to create new pages ...

you can also use the text from "Edit this page" to copy wiki text
to a new page like copying parts of the last outreachy page to a new

If you like you surely can create the next outreachy page from the
previous Outreachy and GSoC page
It would be needed to check that the mentors and admins listed
previously are still able to spend te time & available and that
their projects are still available too.

Also people should be suggested to help improve the page. add projects,
volunteer as mentors, and so on ...

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Outreachy 2016 december

2016-07-23 Thread Yayoi Ukai 
On Jul 22, 2016 10:18 AM, "Michael Niedermayer" 
wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 11:25:21PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > The next Outreachy round starts soon
> > FFmpeg has till august 22 IIUC (https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/)
> > to express interrest to participate.
> >
> > We need an admin and backup admins.
>
> ping!

Hi everyone!

I'm happy to help with the administrative tasks of this project. As far as
Outreachy goes, I will not be able to fully commit as a participant. I can
help with fundraising, recruitment, and any administrarative tasks that you
would like me to assist with. I would be happy to contribute code, but I
would be limited to 10 hours per week working on small coding projects. I
attempted to familiarise myself with Trac, but there are still some aspects
of it I need guidance with. If there are any documentation available that I
am not aware of, I would be happy to review it.

I look forward to working with each and everyone of you on FFmpeg!

Cheers,
Yayoi


>
>
> > They need to create the wiki page(s) for this round, and make sure
> > the pages are in shape by the time applicants start pouring in.
> > make sure applicants questions (like "[FFmpeg-devel] need guidance")
> > get awnsered
> > recruite mentors,
>
> > secure funding (as in confirming with the community and stefano that
> > SPI/FFIS funding can be used for one slot or find another sponsor)
>
> @stefano, do we have funding for a slot in the next outreachy round?
>
> also if someone is against it speak now, before we contact Outreachy
> and state that we want to participate and have funding ...
>
>
> > contact the Outreachy admins and express that FFmpeg wants to
> > participate, ...
> > Reply to any questions the outreachy admins have
> > Make sure that during the project nothing goes wrong like a mentor
> > disappearing and if something goes wrong deal with it
>
> [...]
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Outreachy 2016 december

2016-07-22 Thread Michael Niedermayer 
On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 11:25:21PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> The next Outreachy round starts soon
> FFmpeg has till august 22 IIUC (https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/)
> to express interrest to participate.
> 
> We need an admin and backup admins.

ping!


> They need to create the wiki page(s) for this round, and make sure
> the pages are in shape by the time applicants start pouring in.
> make sure applicants questions (like "[FFmpeg-devel] need guidance")
> get awnsered
> recruite mentors,

> secure funding (as in confirming with the community and stefano that
> SPI/FFIS funding can be used for one slot or find another sponsor)

@stefano, do we have funding for a slot in the next outreachy round?

also if someone is against it speak now, before we contact Outreachy
and state that we want to participate and have funding ...


> contact the Outreachy admins and express that FFmpeg wants to
> participate, ...
> Reply to any questions the outreachy admins have
> Make sure that during the project nothing goes wrong like a mentor
> disappearing and if something goes wrong deal with it

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Outreachy 2016

2016-02-08 Thread Kieran Kunhya 
On Mon, 8 Feb 2016, 15:34 Michael Niedermayer 
wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> This is a reminder that the deadline to register FFmpeg with outreachy
> is tomorrow, the 9th february
> see: https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/
> "Free and open source software organizations and supporting companies are
invited to express interest in offering internships or sponsoring the
program in the upcoming round by February 9, 2016."
>
> If you care to have FFmpeg participate, contact the outreachy admins
> and CC ffmpeg-devel
>
> Also the trac wiki page for this round is not in shape, well its not
> even existing i just created an empty page:
> https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/Outreachy/2016-05
> Please help fill it with whatever project and ideas the community
> wants to have in it.
> (based on previous rounds or create a differnt page or structure but
>  make sure that anything different is conformant to the regulations of
>  the specific sponsoring program.
>  IIRC a common page for gsoc and outreachy was not possible previously)
>
> iam CCing this to a few people who where previously doing some
> admin related work, this is not meant that i expect any of them to
> do any work just so they dont miss it.
>
> Its quite unlikely that FFmpeg will participate in Outreachy if you
> (yes you the reader) doesnt do anything or said differently work doesnt
> do itself, someone needs to do it ...

I have no issue doing this.

Kieran
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