[FFmpeg-user] Understanding/preventing buffer overruns

2020-07-16 Thread Simon Roberts
Hi all, I have a recording configuration going that's grabbing three
1080 30p inputs and one 720 30p input simultaneously, and seems to be
capable of either prores or libx264 crf 23 compressions. The resulting
video appears to be smooth, and when I include a clock in one of the
streams, it maintains good time over a couple of minutes of test.

But... I get almost continuous buffer overruns after about a minute.
Can someone tell me where to start learning about how I might fix this
(I presume it can't be good that it's doing this even though the
output seems to be OK, right?)

One negative thing I notice is that when I play this back with VLC it
complains about timestamps (and some other complaints about recursion
and decoder hardware that I don't think are related to this)

[7fc4251af680] main decoder error: Could not convert timestamp
4637816048 for FFmpeg
[7fc425099d20] main decoder error: Timestamp conversion failed
(delay 100, buffering 10, bound 900)
[7fc425099d20] main decoder error: Could not convert timestamp
4637849382 for FFmpeg
[7fc4251a19f0] main decoder error: Timestamp conversion failed
(delay 100, buffering 10, bound 900)

these repeat extensively

Here's a sample of the messages during recording (which also repeat
essentially continuously)

[decklink @ 0x55b2249e8580] Decklink input buffer overrun!
Last message repeated 1 times
[decklink @ 0x55b2249a4040] Decklink input buffer overrun!944kB
time=00:00:52.30 bitrate=549308.8kbits/s dup=35 drop=4048 speed=0.999x
[decklink @ 0x55b2249e8580] Decklink input buffer overrun!
Last message repeated 13 times

Can anyone point me at what part of the documentation might address
this, or better still give me hints?

TIA,
Simon
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[FFmpeg-user] Ffmpeg issues multiple HTTP requests when starting a video from a URL

2020-07-16 Thread Vladimir Grishchenko
I'm using ffmpeg to read an mp4 video from a HTTP URL and in some cases it 
issues up to 3 HTTP calls before it actually starts the conversion. There is no 
attempt to seek the video on the command line. The server returns HTTP/1.1 206 
Partial Content initially and ffmpeg then tries to get data at different 
offsets before it prints "All info found" and proceeds with the conversion. 
Multiple connections cause an additional delay which I'd like to avoid no 
matter how small it is. Is there a mechanism to override this behavior and have 
ffmpeg to work with the data stream as it is being read? I'm using version 
4.2.1. Thanks.

-Vlad


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] How do I increase the playback size of a video without rescaling it?

2020-07-16 Thread Moritz Barsnick
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:39:03 -0500, fowman wrote:
> Just this, but then it's the only one I have :-)

It can't be that difficult to find other 1280x720 recodings, can it? Or
to create your own?

> Here is ffprobe info:
>
> Original .ts file recorded by my Humax:
> Stream #0:0[0x931]: Video: mpeg2video (Main) ([2][0][0][0] / 0x0002),
> yuv420p(tv), 704x576 [SAR 16:11 DAR 16:9], max. 15000 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr,
> 90k tbn, 50 tbc
>
> 1280x720 .mp4 exported from OpenShot:
> Stream #0:0(und): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p, 1280x720,
> 14925 kb/s, 30 fps, 30 tbr, 15360 tbn, 60 tbc (default)

That doesn't tell me whether the content includes boxes. Unless you run
it through the cropdetect filter.

> I realise that the original .ts video is actually letterboxed, although the
> vertical side bars are pretty narrow. I've always assumed that letterboxing
> referred to the top and bottom horizontal bars and was just a side effect of
> playing a widescreen movie in a 16:9 or 4:3 display.

I'm not referring to a side effect. I meant true black "boxes" or
borders, included in the encoded frames.

What often used to happen was that (true) 16:9 content was amended with
bars to make it 4:3. If you then play that (4:3 enconding) fullscreen
on a 16:9 screen, you will have the explicit top/bottom bars, and newly
introduced left/right bars, to fill the encoded 4:3 back up to 16:9,
instead of snipping something away, obviously. In total, this would
give you a big box around your content, despite full screen.

In your case, there might be a big box there (which we could see if we
saw the actual viedo), or said "clean-aperture" (CLAP) marking, which
could have funny effects. Come to think of it, those effects should be
opposite, i.e. the clean aperture should enforce cropping of
non-displayable segments.

Moritz
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] How do I increase the playback size of a video without rescaling it?

2020-07-16 Thread Mark Filipak

On 07/16/2020 01:39 PM, fowman wrote:

Moritz Barsnick wrote

With every 1280x720 video? Or just this one?


Just this, but then it's the only one I have :-)


I'm guessing the latter video is letterboxed, i.e. a large black box
around it is encoded in the video. If you can share, we could tell.

-snip-

I realise that the original .ts video is actually letterboxed, although the
vertical side bars are pretty narrow. I've always assumed that letterboxing
referred to the top and bottom horizontal bars

-snip-

You are correct regarding letterbox. What you see, black areas top-bottom-left-right, is called 
"pillarbox".

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] How do I increase the playback size of a video without rescaling it?

2020-07-16 Thread fowman
Moritz Barsnick wrote
> With every 1280x720 video? Or just this one?

Just this, but then it's the only one I have :-)

> I'm guessing the latter video is letterboxed, i.e. a large black box
> around it is encoded in the video. If you can share, we could tell. 

Yes it is. My description of being displayed in a small rectangle was trying
to say this. I'm struggling to describe the problem in the correct
terminology so please bear with me.

Here is ffprobe info:

Original .ts file recorded by my Humax:
Stream #0:0[0x931]: Video: mpeg2video (Main) ([2][0][0][0] / 0x0002),
yuv420p(tv), 704x576 [SAR 16:11 DAR 16:9], max. 15000 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr,
90k tbn, 50 tbc

1280x720 .mp4 exported from OpenShot:
Stream #0:0(und): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p, 1280x720,
14925 kb/s, 30 fps, 30 tbr, 15360 tbn, 60 tbc (default)

The OpenShot export parameters used DAR 16:9 and Pixel Ratio (which I assume
is the same as SAR) of 64:45, although it doesn't set the DAR or SAR in the
file metadata (I did this subsequently with ffnpeg).

I realise that the original .ts video is actually letterboxed, although the
vertical side bars are pretty narrow. I've always assumed that letterboxing
referred to the top and bottom horizontal bars and was just a side effect of
playing a widescreen movie in a 16:9 or 4:3 display. I also did wonder how
the how this original movie played with the correct (at least correct
looking) AR when the DAR is set to 16:9 - the measured AR on my computer
screen is more like 24:10. So it occurred to me - has this video been
letterboxed to play in an AR of 16:9 when its real AR is greater?



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Re: [FFmpeg-user] hevc_vaapi mkv output fails with generic error

2020-07-16 Thread Andreas Löer
Hi Haihao,

The question is why this is not possible at all since it was possible
already on an older system.
I kinda don't understand where these warnings come from ... maybe the
amdgpu Kernel driver?

Anyway ... encoding with libx265 is possible but for my purpose far to
slow even with all cores.

Best regards,
Andreas


Am 11.07.2020 um 15:43 schrieb Xiang, Haihao:
> According to the your debug output below, the encoded stream is not muxable to
> some containers, maybe this the root cause of your issue.
>
> [hevc_vaapi @ 0x5239bc0] Driver does not support some wanted packed headers
> (wanted 0xd, found 0).
> [hevc_vaapi @ 0x5239bc0] Driver does not support packed sequence headers, but 
> a
> global header is requested.
> [hevc_vaapi @ 0x5239bc0] No global header will be written: this may result in 
> a
> stream which is not usable for some purposes (e.g. not muxable to some
> containers).
>
> Thanks
> Haihao
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I am currently unable to transcode H264 MKV to HEVC MKV on an AMD Ryzen
>> 3400G running openSuSE Leap 15.2.
>>
>> Using following command
>>
>> ffmpeg -loglevel debug -vaapi_device /dev/dri/renderD128 -hwaccel vaapi
>> -hwaccel_output_format vaapi -i sample.mkv -c:v hevc_vaapi -vf
>> 'hwdownload,format=nv12,hwupload' -rc_mode 3 -b:v 3M -profile:v 1 -tier
>> 1 -level 153 -c:a copy output.mkv
>>
>> I am getting follwing error message
>>
>> [AVHWFramesContext @ 0x52a3cc0] Created surface 0x22.
>> [AVHWFramesContext @ 0x52a3cc0] Direct mapping disabled: deriving image
>> does not work: 1 (operation failed).
>> [matroska @ 0x5235ec0] get_metadata_duration returned: 0
>> Could not write header for output file #0 (incorrect codec parameters
>> ?): Invalid data found when processing input
>> Error initializing output stream 0:0 --
>> [AVIOContext @ 0x5209740] Statistics: 0 seeks, 1 writeouts
>> [AVIOContext @ 0x5284400] Statistics: 197393 bytes read, 2 seeks
>>
>> FFmpeg static build by myself.
>>
>> Is there anyone who can help me understanding what is going on here and
>> how to get this working?
>> I am breaking my head for 3 days now trying to solve this issue.
>>
>> Full debug output here: https://pastebin.com/khp5g9F5
>> <
>> https://deref-web.de/mail/client/gxpESspRx9g/dereferrer/?redirectUrl=https%3A%2F%2Fpastebin.com%2Fkhp5g9F5
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Andreas
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] How do I increase the playback size of a video without rescaling it?

2020-07-16 Thread Moritz Barsnick
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 09:20:31 -0400, Edward Park wrote:
> I don't know if they are not used in all players but MP4 file format
> can contain the "clean-aperture" region info as well as matrices to
> specify sample transformations before the presentation should be
> displayed by default.

Ah, interesting. At the same time, VLC's trac ticket system indicates
that this has not been implemented in VLC. (ffmpeg doesn't tell me
about this, while mediainfo shows both dimensions.) [*]

I stand with my remarks:
> > With every 1280x720 video? Or just this one?
> [...]
> > If you can share, we could tell.

Moritz


[*]
https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/21179
https://streams.videolan.org/issues/21179/clap.mov
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] How do I increase the playback size of a video without rescaling it?

2020-07-16 Thread Edward Park
Hi,

> On Jul 16, 2020, at 08:39, Moritz Barsnick  wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 07:22:39 -0500, fowman wrote:
>> No, I have the same on all three.
> 
> Ah, okay. *All* you players are able to scale the 720x576 video to
> fullscreen (automatically?), and *NONE* of them manages that with the
> 1280x720 video? That seems very unlikely. With every 1280x720 video? Or
> just this one?
> 
> I'm guessing the latter video is letterboxed, i.e. a large black box
> around it is encoded in the video. If you can share, we could tell.
> 
> If not, I know of no such property which would prevent such a video
> from being scaled. Generally speaking, all these players should somehow
> decode into a framebuffer, and then scale that, regardless of what the
> original video file says.
> 
> Moritz

I don't know if they are not used in all players but MP4 file format can 
contain the "clean-aperture" region info as well as matrices to specify sample 
transformations before the presentation should be displayed by default. 

Regards,
Ted Park

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] How do I increase the playback size of a video without rescaling it?

2020-07-16 Thread Moritz Barsnick
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 07:22:39 -0500, fowman wrote:
> No, I have the same on all three.

Ah, okay. *All* you players are able to scale the 720x576 video to
fullscreen (automatically?), and *NONE* of them manages that with the
1280x720 video? That seems very unlikely. With every 1280x720 video? Or
just this one?

I'm guessing the latter video is letterboxed, i.e. a large black box
around it is encoded in the video. If you can share, we could tell.

If not, I know of no such property which would prevent such a video
from being scaled. Generally speaking, all these players should somehow
decode into a framebuffer, and then scale that, regardless of what the
original video file says.

Moritz
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] How do I increase the playback size of a video without rescaling it?

2020-07-16 Thread Peter van den Houten
On 16/07/2020 14:22, fowman wrote:
> Moritz Barsnick wrote
>> Only the PS/3 is the issue, right?
> 
> No, I have the same on all three.
> 
> 
Does your video not need [black bar] cropping? Easiest is to open in HandBrake 
and select Preview, then Show Crop. 

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] How do I increase the playback size of a video without rescaling it?

2020-07-16 Thread fowman
Moritz Barsnick wrote
> Only the PS/3 is the issue, right?

No, I have the same on all three.



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Re: [FFmpeg-user] How do I increase the playback size of a video without rescaling it?

2020-07-16 Thread Moritz Barsnick
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 06:55:55 -0500, fowman wrote:
> VLC and Xplayer are playing to my computer screen, and the PS/3 to my TV, so
> no, not the same.

Only the PS/3 is the issue, right?

> With the small mp4 (1280x720) playing through the PS/3, I can change the TV
> display settings with "stretch" or "best fit" etc options to make the
> picture bigger, but with the normal settings it's just a rectangle that
> doesn't fill the screen. The TV is full HD 1080p.
>
> Are you suggesting that the players may up-scale automatically under certain
> circumstances? I can see how that's possible, but if so, are these
> circumstances "standard" so that the players all behave in the same way, and
> could I know what they are so I can engineer a predictable result?

This is only an issue between your player and your screen, from all I
have read here. If their configurations don't match, you won't get a
full-screen display. This has nothing to do with any "settings" or
metadata in the video file.

Here are the PS/3 settings for upscaling, if you TV doesn't manage:
Games:
https://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/gamesettings.html
DVD/BD:
https://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/3_15/settings/bdsettings.html

I can't find any settings for the video player, but it should have some
as well, or one of the above might apply?

Moritz
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] How do I increase the playback size of a video without rescaling it?

2020-07-16 Thread fowman
Mark Filipak wrote
> Isn't there another common factor? How about the display device? Are you
> playing to the same TV? Can 
> that TV scale up 1280x720?

VLC and Xplayer are playing to my computer screen, and the PS/3 to my TV, so
no, not the same.

With the small mp4 (1280x720) playing through the PS/3, I can change the TV
display settings with "stretch" or "best fit" etc options to make the
picture bigger, but with the normal settings it's just a rectangle that
doesn't fill the screen. The TV is full HD 1080p.

Are you suggesting that the players may up-scale automatically under certain
circumstances? I can see how that's possible, but if so, are these
circumstances "standard" so that the players all behave in the same way, and
could I know what they are so I can engineer a predictable result?

Thanks,
Chris



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Re: [FFmpeg-user] New VVC codec issues

2020-07-16 Thread Phil Rhodes via ffmpeg-user
 From what I've seen, it is functionally an expansion on 265 in the same way 
that 265 was an expansion on 264.
And yes, the same political problems attend it that also attended 265, and no 
real effort has been made to solve those problems.
As such it's probably irrelevant how good it is because no bugger's going to 
use it anyway.
P
On Thursday, 16 July 2020, 09:02:29 BST, Moritz Barsnick  
wrote:  
 
 On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 09:45:56 +0200, Moritz Barsnick wrote:
> Hi Deian,
[...]
> Is it this thread?
> https://www.reddit.com/r/VVC/comments/hputue/no_way_found_to_play_vvc_files/
>
> Kindly describe your problem directly here.

Ah, is VCC identical with H.266? Yet another patent encumbered next
generation codec with the same issues as H.265, trying to compete with
VP10 and AV1 and AV2.

ffmpeg doesn't have support for that yet. Patch welcome. Perhaps if the
MPEG consortium could provide a free, open reference decoder
implementation? Just dreaming...

Cheers,
Moritz
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] New VVC codec issues

2020-07-16 Thread Moritz Barsnick
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 10:02:17 +0200, Moritz Barsnick wrote:
> ffmpeg doesn't have support for that yet. Patch welcome. Perhaps if the
> MPEG consortium could provide a free, open reference decoder
> implementation? Just dreaming...

My bad, that Reddit does point to the Fraunhofer implementation, which
is under a BSD license (but still would need to be evaluated whether it
is "free" in ffmpeg's terms).

Anyway, still no support in ffmpeg yet. ;-) I'll have a look whether I
can manage to use the Fraunhofer tools on those files, and whether I
can convice ffmpeg to export the raw stream:

> The FFmpeg does not recognize the stream, even when i use the
> copy_unknown command it does nothing and also asks for an output
> container format ( i want the raw stream on a .bin file).

Probably with "-map 0:s -c:s copy -f rawvideo output.bin", assuming
it's recognized as a data stream(?). I will try myself. Please always
show us the command line you tried and its complete uncut console
output.

Moritz
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] New VVC codec issues

2020-07-16 Thread Moritz Barsnick
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 09:45:56 +0200, Moritz Barsnick wrote:
> Hi Deian,
[...]
> Is it this thread?
> https://www.reddit.com/r/VVC/comments/hputue/no_way_found_to_play_vvc_files/
>
> Kindly describe your problem directly here.

Ah, is VCC identical with H.266? Yet another patent encumbered next
generation codec with the same issues as H.265, trying to compete with
VP10 and AV1 and AV2.

ffmpeg doesn't have support for that yet. Patch welcome. Perhaps if the
MPEG consortium could provide a free, open reference decoder
implementation? Just dreaming...

Cheers,
Moritz
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] New VVC codec issues

2020-07-16 Thread Moritz Barsnick
Hi Deian,

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 07:16:08 +, FFmpeg user discussions wrote:
> Hi !
> I have some VVC (versatile video codec) files and wanted to run some tests to 
> see how much computational power is needed to decode them. The FFmpeg does 
> not recognize the stream, even when i use the copy_unknown command it does 
> nothing and also asks for an output container format ( i want the raw stream 
> on a .bin file). The issue is discussed here :
> r/VVC - No way found to play vvc files

We can't really read your e-mail. Here's how wo see it on the list:
http://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2020-July/049381.html

Is it this thread?
https://www.reddit.com/r/VVC/comments/hputue/no_way_found_to_play_vvc_files/

Kindly describe your problem directly here.

Thanks,
Moritz
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[FFmpeg-user] New VVC codec issues

2020-07-16 Thread Deian l. via ffmpeg-user
Hi !
I have some VVC (versatile video codec) files and wanted to run some tests to 
see how much computational power is needed to decode them. The FFmpeg does not 
recognize the stream, even when i use the copy_unknown command it does nothing 
and also asks for an output container format ( i want the raw stream on a .bin 
file). The issue is discussed here :
r/VVC - No way found to play vvc files  
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r/VVC - No way found to play vvc files
 
1 vote and 4 comments so far on Reddit
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Thanks.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] How do I increase the playback size of a video without rescaling it?

2020-07-16 Thread Mark Filipak

On 07/16/2020 02:04 AM, fowman wrote:

Jim DeLaHunt-2 wrote

It seems like this is a question for the playback app, not for ffmpeg.
What are you using to play back the video? VLC? FFplay? Whatever player
the PS/3 has?


I'm on Linux (Mint) and I've used VLC and Xplayer; on the PS/3 it's whatever
it uses natively to play the mp4 file. Since they all show the same
behaviour, the common factor would appear to be the mp4 file, not the
player.


Isn't there another common factor? How about the display device? Are you playing to the same TV? Can 
that TV scale up 1280x720?

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] How do I increase the playback size of a video without rescaling it?

2020-07-16 Thread fowman
Jim DeLaHunt-2 wrote
> It seems like this is a question for the playback app, not for ffmpeg. 
> What are you using to play back the video? VLC? FFplay? Whatever player 
> the PS/3 has?

I'm on Linux (Mint) and I've used VLC and Xplayer; on the PS/3 it's whatever
it uses natively to play the mp4 file. Since they all show the same
behaviour, the common factor would appear to be the mp4 file, not the
player.

The 720x576 video is a broadcast transmission recorded on a Humax box. The
1280x720 video is the output from OpenShot after editing the same file. I've
found that if I use the scale function in OpenShot and export the video
using a scale factor of 1.4 on both dimensions I get a video that plays with
the full horizontal width, and is still 1280x720 i.e. the scaling has done
something other than increase the number of pixels, and I don't understand
what this is.

OpenShot does not set the DAR in the exported file, I have to set it
subsequently using ffmpeg, but then I get a file that plays pretty much like
the original.

I agree it's not an ffmpeg issue /per se/, but I'm hoping that with the
video knowledge around this forum someone can tell me what the issue is and
how to fix it using ffmpeg.

Chris



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