Re: [FFmpeg-user] Cut part of a video, crop it and blackout parts of it

2021-04-05 Thread Cecil Westerhof via ffmpeg-user
Michael Koch  writes:

> If you want to cover the whole frame size, you could also use this (for
> 50% gray):
> eq=enable='bitor(between(t, 0, 2),between(t, 339, 342))':contrast=0
> or add :brightness=-0.5 if you want black.
> It might be faster than drawbox.

It is not faster. It also keeps a 'shadow' of the video. I will play a
little more with it, but the change is high that I go back to drawbox.

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Cut part of a video, crop it and blackout parts of it

2021-04-05 Thread Cecil Westerhof via ffmpeg-user
Michael Koch  writes:

> Am 05.04.2021 um 11:58 schrieb Cecil Westerhof via ffmpeg-user:
>> Michael Koch  writes:
>>
>>> Am 05.04.2021 um 01:48 schrieb Cecil Westerhof via ffmpeg-user:
 I have to cut out a part of a video, crop it and blackout two parts.
 I do this with:
   ffmpeg -y  \
  -ss 00:19:49\
  -i  2021-03-25ToastmastersClubAvond.mp4 \
  -to 442 \
  -vf "
   crop = 1440:1080:240:0
   ,
   drawbox=enable='between(t, 0, 2)' :
  color = black  :
  w = in_w   :
  h = in_h   :
  thickness = fill
   ,
   drawbox=enable='between(t, 339, 342)' :
  color = black  :
  w = in_w   :
  h = in_h   :
  thickness = fill
  "   \
  -acodec copy\
  -vcodec libx264 \
  -crf23  \
  speechClean2.mp4

 The reason I do -to in the output is that in this way the metadata
 concerning the video length is less out of whack.

 I was wondering if this is a good way, or that it could be done
 better?
 Also, beside the timestamps the parameters for drawbox are the same.
 Is there a way that I do not have to repeat them?
>>> drawbox=enable='bitor(between(t, 0, 2),between(t, 339, 342))'
>> Works like a charm.
>>
>> Strange thing is that it seems to be much faster. About 20%. To much
>> to be because of different load I think.
>> But I am not complaining. ;-)
>
> If you want to cover the whole frame size, you could also use this (for
> 50% gray):
> eq=enable='bitor(between(t, 0, 2),between(t, 339, 342))':contrast=0
> or add :brightness=-0.5 if you want black.
> It might be faster than drawbox.

I will try that out later. At the moment I am working with the
different preset values. It seems that veryfast is still the best. And
that you really should not use ultrafast.

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Cut part of a video, crop it and blackout parts of it

2021-04-05 Thread Cecil Westerhof via ffmpeg-user
Cecil Westerhof via ffmpeg-user  writes:

> I have to cut out a part of a video, crop it and blackout two parts.
> I do this with:
> ffmpeg -y  \
>-ss 00:19:49\
>-i  2021-03-25ToastmastersClubAvond.mp4 \
>-to 442 \
>-vf "
> crop = 1440:1080:240:0
> ,
> drawbox=enable='between(t, 0, 2)' :
>color = black  :
>w = in_w   :
>h = in_h   :
>thickness = fill
> ,
> drawbox=enable='between(t, 339, 342)' :
>color = black  :
>w = in_w   :
>h = in_h   :
>thickness = fill
>"   \
>-acodec copy\
>-vcodec libx264 \
>-crf23  \
>speechClean2.mp4

With the help of this mailing list I changed it to:
ffmpeg -y  \
   -ss 00:19:49\
   -i  2021-03-25ToastmastersClubAvond.mp4 \
   -to 442 \
   -vf "
crop = 1440:1080:240:0
,
drawbox=enable='bitor(between(t, 0, 2),between(t, 339, 342))' :
   color = black  :
   w = in_w   :
   h = in_h   :
   thickness = fill
   "   \
   -acodec copy\
   -vcodec libx264 \
   -preset veryfast\
   -crf28  \
   speechClean3.mp4

The input quality is probably poor, that is why I switched to crf 28.
I do not see a difference in quality.

I use veryfast because that probably gives (counter-intuitively) the
smallest size.


> The reason I do -to in the output is that in this way the metadata
> concerning the video length is less out of whack.
>
> I was wondering if this is a good way, or that it could be done
> better?
> Also, beside the timestamps the parameters for drawbox are the same.
> Is there a way that I do not have to repeat them?
>
> I started the crf with 16, then 20 and lastly 23.
>
> The input file has:
> Stream #0:1(und): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p, 
> 1920x1080, 2070 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 30k tbn, 60k tbc (default)
>
> With crf 16 I get:
> Stream #0:0(und): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p, 
> 1440x1080, 5541 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 12800 tbn, 50 tbc (default)
>
> With crf 20 I get:
> Stream #0:0(und): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p, 
> 1440x1080, 3538 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 12800 tbn, 50 tbc (default)
>
> And with crf 23 I get:
> Stream #0:0(und): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p, 
> 1440x1080, 2444 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 12800 tbn, 50 tbc (default)

With crf 28 and preset veryfast I get:
Stream #0:0(und): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p, 
1440x1080, 1056 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 12800 tbn, 50 tbc (default)


When I have better quality video I should maybe change crf back to 23.

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Cut part of a video, crop it and blackout parts of it

2021-04-05 Thread Michael Koch

Am 05.04.2021 um 11:58 schrieb Cecil Westerhof via ffmpeg-user:

Michael Koch  writes:


Am 05.04.2021 um 01:48 schrieb Cecil Westerhof via ffmpeg-user:

I have to cut out a part of a video, crop it and blackout two parts.
I do this with:
  ffmpeg -y  \
 -ss 00:19:49\
 -i  2021-03-25ToastmastersClubAvond.mp4 \
 -to 442 \
 -vf "
  crop = 1440:1080:240:0
  ,
  drawbox=enable='between(t, 0, 2)' :
 color = black  :
 w = in_w   :
 h = in_h   :
 thickness = fill
  ,
  drawbox=enable='between(t, 339, 342)' :
 color = black  :
 w = in_w   :
 h = in_h   :
 thickness = fill
 "   \
 -acodec copy\
 -vcodec libx264 \
 -crf23  \
 speechClean2.mp4

The reason I do -to in the output is that in this way the metadata
concerning the video length is less out of whack.

I was wondering if this is a good way, or that it could be done
better?
Also, beside the timestamps the parameters for drawbox are the same.
Is there a way that I do not have to repeat them?

drawbox=enable='bitor(between(t, 0, 2),between(t, 339, 342))'

Works like a charm.

Strange thing is that it seems to be much faster. About 20%. To much
to be because of different load I think.
But I am not complaining. ;-)


If you want to cover the whole frame size, you could also use this (for 
50% gray):

eq=enable='bitor(between(t, 0, 2),between(t, 339, 342))':contrast=0
or add :brightness=-0.5 if you want black.
It might be faster than drawbox.

Michael

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Cut part of a video, crop it and blackout parts of it

2021-04-05 Thread Cecil Westerhof via ffmpeg-user
Cecil Westerhof via ffmpeg-user  writes:

> Nicolas George  writes:
>
>> Carl Eugen Hoyos (12021-04-05):
>>> There is a fundamental misunderstanding:
>>> You decide how much quality you want to preserve, x264 decides how
>>> much bitrate is needed to reach that quality.
>>
>> You also decide how much computing power you want to spend on it, which
>> Cecil neglected to do. More computing power usually means lower bitrate
>> for same quality. The keyword is "preset".
>
> Yes, that was not smart.
>
> The funny thing about that is that years ago I have played with that.
> My very strange finding was that I could best use veryfast. It was
> faster and created smaller files. But that is many years ago, so maybe
> that is not true anymore.

Until two years ago it was still the case:

https://write.corbpie.com/ffmpeg-preset-comparison-x264-2019-encode-speed-and-file-size/

I ran it with veryfast. It took about half the time and kb/s was 2164
instead of 2444. Better, but still about 40% higher as I would expect.

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Cut part of a video, crop it and blackout parts of it

2021-04-05 Thread Cecil Westerhof via ffmpeg-user
Michael Koch  writes:

> Am 05.04.2021 um 01:48 schrieb Cecil Westerhof via ffmpeg-user:
>> I have to cut out a part of a video, crop it and blackout two parts.
>> I do this with:
>>  ffmpeg -y  \
>> -ss 00:19:49\
>> -i  2021-03-25ToastmastersClubAvond.mp4 \
>> -to 442 \
>> -vf "
>>  crop = 1440:1080:240:0
>>  ,
>>  drawbox=enable='between(t, 0, 2)' :
>> color = black  :
>> w = in_w   :
>> h = in_h   :
>> thickness = fill
>>  ,
>>  drawbox=enable='between(t, 339, 342)' :
>> color = black  :
>> w = in_w   :
>> h = in_h   :
>> thickness = fill
>> "   \
>> -acodec copy\
>> -vcodec libx264 \
>> -crf23  \
>> speechClean2.mp4
>>
>> The reason I do -to in the output is that in this way the metadata
>> concerning the video length is less out of whack.
>>
>> I was wondering if this is a good way, or that it could be done
>> better?
>> Also, beside the timestamps the parameters for drawbox are the same.
>> Is there a way that I do not have to repeat them?
>
> drawbox=enable='bitor(between(t, 0, 2),between(t, 339, 342))'

Works like a charm.

Strange thing is that it seems to be much faster. About 20%. To much
to be because of different load I think.
But I am not complaining. ;-)

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Cut part of a video, crop it and blackout parts of it

2021-04-05 Thread Cecil Westerhof via ffmpeg-user
Nicolas George  writes:

> Carl Eugen Hoyos (12021-04-05):
>> There is a fundamental misunderstanding:
>> You decide how much quality you want to preserve, x264 decides how
>> much bitrate is needed to reach that quality.
>
> You also decide how much computing power you want to spend on it, which
> Cecil neglected to do. More computing power usually means lower bitrate
> for same quality. The keyword is "preset".

Yes, that was not smart.

The funny thing about that is that years ago I have played with that.
My very strange finding was that I could best use veryfast. It was
faster and created smaller files. But that is many years ago, so maybe
that is not true anymore.

Time to play with preset again.

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Cut part of a video, crop it and blackout parts of it

2021-04-05 Thread Cecil Westerhof via ffmpeg-user
Carl Eugen Hoyos  writes:

>> Am 05.04.2021 um 01:48 schrieb Cecil Westerhof via ffmpeg-user 
>> :
>> 
>> I have to cut out a part of a video, crop it and blackout two parts.
>> I do this with:
>>ffmpeg -y  \
>>   -ss 00:19:49\
>>   -i  2021-03-25ToastmastersClubAvond.mp4 \
>>   -to 442 \
>>   -vf "
>>crop = 1440:1080:240:0
>>,
>>drawbox=enable='between(t, 0, 2)' :
>>   color = black  :
>>   w = in_w   :
>>   h = in_h   :
>>   thickness = fill
>>,
>>drawbox=enable='between(t, 339, 342)' :
>>   color = black  :
>>   w = in_w   :
>>   h = in_h   :
>>   thickness = fill
>>   "   \
>>   -acodec copy\
>>   -vcodec libx264 \
>>   -crf23  \
>>   speechClean2.mp4
>> 
>> The reason I do -to in the output is that in this way the metadata
>> concerning the video length is less out of whack.
>> 
>> I was wondering if this is a good way, or that it could be done
>> better?
>
>> Also, beside the timestamps the parameters for drawbox are the same.
>> Is there a way that I do not have to repeat them?
>
> I suspect there is an „Or“ parameter for „enable“.
>
>> 
>> I started the crf with 16, then 20 and lastly 23.
>> 
>> The input file has:
>>Stream #0:1(und): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p,
>> 1920x1080, 2070 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 30k tbn, 60k tbc (default)
>> 
>> With crf 16 I get:
>>Stream #0:0(und): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p,
>> 1440x1080, 5541 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 12800 tbn, 50 tbc (default)
>> 
>> With crf 20 I get:
>>Stream #0:0(und): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p,
>> 1440x1080, 3538 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 12800 tbn, 50 tbc (default)
>> 
>> And with crf 23 I get:
>>Stream #0:0(und): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p,
>> 1440x1080, 2444 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 12800 tbn, 50 tbc (default)
>> 
>> So to me it seems that the crf value is still to high.
>
> You mean still too low?

Yes, bitrate is to high, so the crf value is to low. Silly me. ;-)


>> Is there a way
>> to use the kb/s to calculate the crf value to use?
>
> There is a fundamental misunderstanding:
> You decide how much quality you want to preserve, x264 decides how much
> bitrate is needed to reach that quality. (This is true for the general
> case where you want to control the output quality and are therefore
> using the crf option.)
> If you really have bitrate constraints, use two-pass encoding
> instead of the crf option.

I do not really have a bitrate constraint, but I would think a higher
bitrate as the input bitrate would be a waste. Because the crop
removes about a quarter I would think that a bitrate higher as 1500
would be a waste.


> I suspect the reason for the high bitrate of the output file is the low
> quality of the input file but this is not really relevant, just a
> (possible) explanation. One (unlikely) alternative is that your original
> h264 encoder is much better than x264.

That is what I mean: if the quality of the input is low, then there is
no use for going for a high(er) quality for the output.

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Cut part of a video, crop it and blackout parts of it

2021-04-05 Thread Nicolas George
Carl Eugen Hoyos (12021-04-05):
> There is a fundamental misunderstanding:
> You decide how much quality you want to preserve, x264 decides how
> much bitrate is needed to reach that quality.

You also decide how much computing power you want to spend on it, which
Cecil neglected to do. More computing power usually means lower bitrate
for same quality. The keyword is "preset".

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Cut part of a video, crop it and blackout parts of it

2021-04-05 Thread Michael Koch

Am 05.04.2021 um 01:48 schrieb Cecil Westerhof via ffmpeg-user:

I have to cut out a part of a video, crop it and blackout two parts.
I do this with:
 ffmpeg -y  \
-ss 00:19:49\
-i  2021-03-25ToastmastersClubAvond.mp4 \
-to 442 \
-vf "
 crop = 1440:1080:240:0
 ,
 drawbox=enable='between(t, 0, 2)' :
color = black  :
w = in_w   :
h = in_h   :
thickness = fill
 ,
 drawbox=enable='between(t, 339, 342)' :
color = black  :
w = in_w   :
h = in_h   :
thickness = fill
"   \
-acodec copy\
-vcodec libx264 \
-crf23  \
speechClean2.mp4

The reason I do -to in the output is that in this way the metadata
concerning the video length is less out of whack.

I was wondering if this is a good way, or that it could be done
better?
Also, beside the timestamps the parameters for drawbox are the same.
Is there a way that I do not have to repeat them?


drawbox=enable='bitor(between(t, 0, 2),between(t, 339, 342))'

Michael

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Cut part of a video, crop it and blackout parts of it

2021-04-05 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos


> Am 05.04.2021 um 01:48 schrieb Cecil Westerhof via ffmpeg-user 
> :
> 
> I have to cut out a part of a video, crop it and blackout two parts.
> I do this with:
>ffmpeg -y  \
>   -ss 00:19:49\
>   -i  2021-03-25ToastmastersClubAvond.mp4 \
>   -to 442 \
>   -vf "
>crop = 1440:1080:240:0
>,
>drawbox=enable='between(t, 0, 2)' :
>   color = black  :
>   w = in_w   :
>   h = in_h   :
>   thickness = fill
>,
>drawbox=enable='between(t, 339, 342)' :
>   color = black  :
>   w = in_w   :
>   h = in_h   :
>   thickness = fill
>   "   \
>   -acodec copy\
>   -vcodec libx264 \
>   -crf23  \
>   speechClean2.mp4
> 
> The reason I do -to in the output is that in this way the metadata
> concerning the video length is less out of whack.
> 
> I was wondering if this is a good way, or that it could be done
> better?

> Also, beside the timestamps the parameters for drawbox are the same.
> Is there a way that I do not have to repeat them?

I suspect there is an „Or“ parameter for „enable“.

> 
> I started the crf with 16, then 20 and lastly 23.
> 
> The input file has:
>Stream #0:1(und): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p, 
> 1920x1080, 2070 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 30k tbn, 60k tbc (default)
> 
> With crf 16 I get:
>Stream #0:0(und): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p, 
> 1440x1080, 5541 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 12800 tbn, 50 tbc (default)
> 
> With crf 20 I get:
>Stream #0:0(und): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p, 
> 1440x1080, 3538 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 12800 tbn, 50 tbc (default)
> 
> And with crf 23 I get:
>Stream #0:0(und): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p, 
> 1440x1080, 2444 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 12800 tbn, 50 tbc (default)
> 
> So to me it seems that the crf value is still to high.

You mean still too low?

> Is there a way
> to use the kb/s to calculate the crf value to use?

There is a fundamental misunderstanding:
You decide how much quality you want to preserve, x264 decides how much bitrate 
is needed to reach that quality. (This is true for the general case where you 
want to control the output quality and are therefore using the crf option.)
If you really have bitrate constraints, use two-pass encoding instead of the 
crf option.

I suspect the reason for the high bitrate of the output file is the low quality 
of the input file but this is not really relevant, just a (possible) 
explanation. One (unlikely) alternative is that your original h264 encoder is 
much better than x264.

Carl Eugen
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[FFmpeg-user] Cut part of a video, crop it and blackout parts of it

2021-04-04 Thread Cecil Westerhof via ffmpeg-user
I have to cut out a part of a video, crop it and blackout two parts.
I do this with:
ffmpeg -y  \
   -ss 00:19:49\
   -i  2021-03-25ToastmastersClubAvond.mp4 \
   -to 442 \
   -vf "
crop = 1440:1080:240:0
,
drawbox=enable='between(t, 0, 2)' :
   color = black  :
   w = in_w   :
   h = in_h   :
   thickness = fill
,
drawbox=enable='between(t, 339, 342)' :
   color = black  :
   w = in_w   :
   h = in_h   :
   thickness = fill
   "   \
   -acodec copy\
   -vcodec libx264 \
   -crf23  \
   speechClean2.mp4

The reason I do -to in the output is that in this way the metadata
concerning the video length is less out of whack.

I was wondering if this is a good way, or that it could be done
better?
Also, beside the timestamps the parameters for drawbox are the same.
Is there a way that I do not have to repeat them?

I started the crf with 16, then 20 and lastly 23.

The input file has:
Stream #0:1(und): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p, 
1920x1080, 2070 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 30k tbn, 60k tbc (default)

With crf 16 I get:
Stream #0:0(und): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p, 
1440x1080, 5541 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 12800 tbn, 50 tbc (default)

With crf 20 I get:
Stream #0:0(und): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p, 
1440x1080, 3538 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 12800 tbn, 50 tbc (default)

And with crf 23 I get:
Stream #0:0(und): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p, 
1440x1080, 2444 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 12800 tbn, 50 tbc (default)

So to me it seems that the crf value is still to high. Is there a way
to use the kb/s to calculate the crf value to use?

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Cecil Westerhof
Senior Software Engineer
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/cecilwesterhof
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