Re: [FFmpeg-user] Troublemaker in bugtracker
"Mark Filipak (ffmpeg)" writes: > On 01/25/2021 03:58 PM, Leo Butler via ffmpeg-user wrote: >> "Sergey \"GrayFace\" Rozhenko via ffmpeg-user" >> writes: >> >>> Hello. >>> >>> I've met a childish person with nickname "cehoyos" that made it his >>> goal to block a bug report I've filed. >> Please do not use such derogatory characterizations. You are >> insulting >> someone who is giving his time without cost to you. I won't reduce >> myself to name-calling, but there are many unkind words to describe such >> behaviour. >> >>> >>> At first he tried to make up excuses for doing so, then ran out of >>> them and just starting setting bug status to "invalid" with no >>> reasoning. >>> >>> Here is the bug in question: https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/9074 >> In my experience, several developers of ffmpeg are brusque, but >> invariable correct. If you find their reply(ies) terse, it is almost >> certainly because you do not understand something and they have expected >> you to RTFM. >> I would characterize your "bug" report as one of those cases. Learn >> from >> your experience, drop the grudge, move on and show some respect for >> these people. >> Leo > > Your comments, Leo, are quite correct. > However, there is no F*ing Manual. Two sentences, back to back, with opposite meaning. Hmmm. > There is only man-style documentation that supplies usage > reminders to those who are already familiar with ffmpeg and its usage, > but that doesn't help newcomers. Hardly. A year or two ago I had never used ffmpeg, but I needed to do some script-driven transcoding and it was the best option. The wiki pages were quite helpful and when I needed to tweak things, I discovered the manual is quite good, if terse. > I wish the reality was different, and I've volunteered to help with > documentation, but the developers have rebuffed me and everyone else > who has similarly volunteered. It's their project and they make its > policy. Still, I can only dream of what it could be. This Wiki is intended for all kinds of FFmpeg and multimedia related information. Everyone is welcome to add to, edit and improve it! https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki I don't really wish to be dragged in to some nag-a-thon, which is what several members of this list seem to like. I replied to OP's original post with my assessment of the facts, as he appeared to request. What I said to him applies here, too: > Learn from your experience, drop the grudge, move on and show some > respect for these people. Leo ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
Re: [FFmpeg-user] Troublemaker in bugtracker
Am 26.01.21 um 01:30 schrieb Paul B Mahol: Yes, we need to use only corporate code muhahaha and that will solve exactly what? ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
Re: [FFmpeg-user] Troublemaker in bugtracker
On 01/25/2021 08:51 PM, Jim DeLaHunt wrote: On 2021-01-25 16:30, Paul B Mahol wrote: On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 1:18 AM Phil Rhodes via ffmpeg-user < ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org> wrote: … When you have people who are determined to treat others with contempt and hostility as a matter of course, who reject even the most well-meaning offers of help with the most pressing issues, who almost seem to make a science out of deliberate, studied unpleasantness, something strange is going on. More than annoying, it's weird. I've never once in my life encountered anything like this. It's completely unnecessary, completely self-destructive, and appears to gain nothing for anyone. Yes, we need to use only corporate code. Come on, Paul, that is a silly reply. You are saying that the only alternative to FFmpeg's present situation is to use corporate code (proprietary licences)? That claim is not logical: there is no reason why use of a free software licence requires project insiders to be hostile and destructive to each other, or to their users. And it is disproved by evidence: there are many free software projects where the insiders behave more kindly and constructively, my favourite example being Python. Taken on its face, your reply seems to show a belief that no better culture is even possible for the FFmpeg project. That attitude is itself "completely unnecessary, completely self-destructive, and appears to gain nothing for anyone." Really, Jim, you're not helping. You would be well served by not making assumptions. What if Paul is actually being helpful, that in his eyes, his comments are cogent. How would you feel if someone second guessed what you wrote? I know you think you are careful when crafting replies (and I think so, too) but Paul thinks he's being careful, too. You can't assume that he has malice at heart. I mean, give him space to explain the cryptic things he writes. English is not his first language. -- Someone's sneaking in and turning up the range so that my food burns. I'm sure of it. And the older I get, the more sure of it I become. ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
Re: [FFmpeg-user] Troublemaker in bugtracker
On 01/25/2021 07:30 PM, Paul B Mahol wrote: On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 1:18 AM Phil Rhodes via ffmpeg-user < ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org> wrote: On Monday, 25 January 2021, 22:34:35 GMT, Mark Filipak (ffmpeg) < markfili...@bog.us> wrote: Your comments, Leo, are quite correct. However, there is no F*ing Manual. There is only man-style documentation that supplies usage reminders to those who are already familiar with ffmpeg and its > usage, but that doesn't help newcomers. I wish the reality was different, and I've volunteered to > help with documentation, but the developers have rebuffed me and everyone else who has similarly > volunteered. Very much so. I may be one of the volunteers Mark is referring to. In the end it's a very long term problem that exists with a lot of open source projects and I don't see a solution to it. When you have people who are determined to treat others with contempt and hostility as a matter of course, who reject even the most well-meaning offers of help with the most pressing issues, who almost seem to make a science out of deliberate, studied unpleasantness, something strange is going on. More than annoying, it's weird. I've never once in my life encountered anything like this. It's completely unnecessary, completely self-destructive, and appears to gain nothing for anyone. Yes, we need to use only corporate code. What does that mean, Paul? -- Someone's sneaking in and turning up the range so that my food burns. I'm sure of it. And the older I get, the more sure of it I become. ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
Re: [FFmpeg-user] Troublemaker in bugtracker
On 2021-01-25 16:30, Paul B Mahol wrote: On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 1:18 AM Phil Rhodes via ffmpeg-user < ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org> wrote: … When you have people who are determined to treat others with contempt and hostility as a matter of course, who reject even the most well-meaning offers of help with the most pressing issues, who almost seem to make a science out of deliberate, studied unpleasantness, something strange is going on. More than annoying, it's weird. I've never once in my life encountered anything like this. It's completely unnecessary, completely self-destructive, and appears to gain nothing for anyone. Yes, we need to use only corporate code. Come on, Paul, that is a silly reply. You are saying that the only alternative to FFmpeg's present situation is to use corporate code (proprietary licences)? That claim is not logical: there is no reason why use of a free software licence requires project insiders to be hostile and destructive to each other, or to their users. And it is disproved by evidence: there are many free software projects where the insiders behave more kindly and constructively, my favourite example being Python. Taken on its face, your reply seems to show a belief that no better culture is even possible for the FFmpeg project. That attitude is itself "completely unnecessary, completely self-destructive, and appears to gain nothing for anyone." ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
Re: [FFmpeg-user] Troublemaker in bugtracker
On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 1:18 AM Phil Rhodes via ffmpeg-user < ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org> wrote: > On Monday, 25 January 2021, 22:34:35 GMT, Mark Filipak (ffmpeg) < > markfili...@bog.us> wrote: > > > Your comments, Leo, are quite correct. However, there is no F*ing > Manual. There is only man-style > > documentation that supplies usage reminders to those who are already > familiar with ffmpeg and its > usage, but that doesn't help newcomers. I > wish the reality was different, and I've volunteered to > help with > documentation, but the developers have rebuffed me and everyone else who > has similarly > volunteered. > Very much so. I may be one of the volunteers Mark is referring to. > In the end it's a very long term problem that exists with a lot of open > source projects and I don't see a solution to it. When you have people who > are determined to treat others with contempt and hostility as a matter of > course, who reject even the most well-meaning offers of help with the most > pressing issues, who almost seem to make a science out of deliberate, > studied unpleasantness, something strange is going on. > More than annoying, it's weird. I've never once in my life encountered > anything like this. It's completely unnecessary, completely > self-destructive, and appears to gain nothing for anyone. > Yes, we need to use only corporate code. > P > ___ > ffmpeg-user mailing list > ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org > https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user > > To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email > ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
Re: [FFmpeg-user] Troublemaker in bugtracker
On Monday, 25 January 2021, 22:34:35 GMT, Mark Filipak (ffmpeg) wrote: > Your comments, Leo, are quite correct. However, there is no F*ing Manual. > There is only man-style > documentation that supplies usage reminders to those who are already familiar > with ffmpeg and its > usage, but that doesn't help newcomers. I wish the > reality was different, and I've volunteered to > help with documentation, but > the developers have rebuffed me and everyone else who has similarly > > volunteered. Very much so. I may be one of the volunteers Mark is referring to. In the end it's a very long term problem that exists with a lot of open source projects and I don't see a solution to it. When you have people who are determined to treat others with contempt and hostility as a matter of course, who reject even the most well-meaning offers of help with the most pressing issues, who almost seem to make a science out of deliberate, studied unpleasantness, something strange is going on. More than annoying, it's weird. I've never once in my life encountered anything like this. It's completely unnecessary, completely self-destructive, and appears to gain nothing for anyone. P ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
Re: [FFmpeg-user] Troublemaker in bugtracker
On 01/25/2021 03:58 PM, Leo Butler via ffmpeg-user wrote: "Sergey \"GrayFace\" Rozhenko via ffmpeg-user" writes: Hello. I've met a childish person with nickname "cehoyos" that made it his goal to block a bug report I've filed. Please do not use such derogatory characterizations. You are insulting someone who is giving his time without cost to you. I won't reduce myself to name-calling, but there are many unkind words to describe such behaviour. At first he tried to make up excuses for doing so, then ran out of them and just starting setting bug status to "invalid" with no reasoning. Here is the bug in question: https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/9074 In my experience, several developers of ffmpeg are brusque, but invariable correct. If you find their reply(ies) terse, it is almost certainly because you do not understand something and they have expected you to RTFM. I would characterize your "bug" report as one of those cases. Learn from your experience, drop the grudge, move on and show some respect for these people. Leo Your comments, Leo, are quite correct. However, there is no F*ing Manual. There is only man-style documentation that supplies usage reminders to those who are already familiar with ffmpeg and its usage, but that doesn't help newcomers. I wish the reality was different, and I've volunteered to help with documentation, but the developers have rebuffed me and everyone else who has similarly volunteered. It's their project and they make its policy. Still, I can only dream of what it could be. -- Someone's sneaking in and turning up the range so that my food burns. I'm sure of it. And the older I get, the more sure of it I become. ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
Re: [FFmpeg-user] Troublemaker in bugtracker
"Sergey \"GrayFace\" Rozhenko via ffmpeg-user" writes: > Hello. > > I've met a childish person with nickname "cehoyos" that made it his > goal to block a bug report I've filed. Please do not use such derogatory characterizations. You are insulting someone who is giving his time without cost to you. I won't reduce myself to name-calling, but there are many unkind words to describe such behaviour. > > At first he tried to make up excuses for doing so, then ran out of > them and just starting setting bug status to "invalid" with no > reasoning. > > Here is the bug in question: https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/9074 In my experience, several developers of ffmpeg are brusque, but invariable correct. If you find their reply(ies) terse, it is almost certainly because you do not understand something and they have expected you to RTFM. I would characterize your "bug" report as one of those cases. Learn from your experience, drop the grudge, move on and show some respect for these people. Leo ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
Re: [FFmpeg-user] Troublemaker in bugtracker
On 1/24/2021 1:37 AM, Paul B Mahol wrote: People should just ignore Carl Zwanzing and Phil Rhodes entries after all. (please spell my name correctly) Again, a statement without evidence or explanation, worth approximately nothing (ref the Latin proverb "quod grātīs asseritur, grātīs negātur" - "What is asserted gratuitously may be denied gratuitously"). They will eventually leave when they see they can not influence users. Also lacking evidence, I've been on this list for, oh, at least 3 years; still here. Given that I actually discuss things with list members and occasionally help solve their problems, I think the "can not influence" is false. Paul is also unaware of the discussions that start on the list and are taken private. The list FAQ (https://ffmpeg.org/mailing-list-faq.html) tells us to "Please follow our Code of Conduct." and links to it. The Code of Conduct (https://ffmpeg.org/developer.html#Code-of-conduct)- ==start== Be friendly and respectful towards others and third parties. Treat others the way you yourself want to be treated. Be considerate. Not everyone shares the same viewpoint and priorities as you do. Different opinions and interpretations help the project. Looking at issues from a different perspective assists development. Do not assume malice for things that can be attributed to incompetence. Even if it is malice, it’s rarely good to start with that as initial assumption. Stay friendly even if someone acts contrarily. Everyone has a bad day once in a while. If you yourself have a bad day or are angry then try to take a break and reply once you are calm and without anger if you have to. Try to help other team members and cooperate if you can. The goal of software development is to create technical excellence, not for any individual to be better and "win" against the others. Large software projects are only possible and successful through teamwork. If someone struggles do not put them down. Give them a helping hand instead and point them in the right direction. Finally, keep in mind the immortal words of Bill and Ted, "Be excellent to each other." ==end== I try to follow those all the time; it's unfortunately that not everyone does. Later, z! ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
Re: [FFmpeg-user] Troublemaker in bugtracker
> On 24 Jan 2021, at 10:37, Paul B Mahol wrote: > > People should just ignore Carl Zwanzing and Phil Rhodes entries after all. You are totally right, but I cant help myself. If ‘fake news’ (Don’t get me started on that…) is spread, I want to give some alternative view. And one thing I can’t stand is ‘proof’ by ‘masses’. Lesson learned, message rules adjusted. (Where did I get the idea that Phil R. is a BBC developer? Might have just be me being stupid…) > > They will eventually leave when they see they can not influence users. > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 4:23 AM Carl Zwanzig wrote: > >> Proof or it didn't happen? Did you just call Phil a liar? To what purpose? >> >> On 1/23/2021 6:16 PM, Bouke wrote: >>> What exactly are you trying to accomplish other than making a fool of >> yourself? >> >> One might ask the same thing. Or one could stop arguing about it, >> acknowledge that some posters here are brusque and unhelpful, and start >> trying to give useful answers to people's questions. >> >> (I don't think I've been threatened by Carl, but have by Paul- on >> 20-Dec-2020.) >> >> z! >> ___ >> ffmpeg-user mailing list >> ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org >> https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user >> >> To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email >> ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". > ___ > ffmpeg-user mailing list > ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org > https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user > > To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email > ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
Re: [FFmpeg-user] Troublemaker in bugtracker
People should just ignore Carl Zwanzing and Phil Rhodes entries after all. They will eventually leave when they see they can not influence users. On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 4:23 AM Carl Zwanzig wrote: > Proof or it didn't happen? Did you just call Phil a liar? To what purpose? > > On 1/23/2021 6:16 PM, Bouke wrote: > > What exactly are you trying to accomplish other than making a fool of > yourself? > > One might ask the same thing. Or one could stop arguing about it, > acknowledge that some posters here are brusque and unhelpful, and start > trying to give useful answers to people's questions. > > (I don't think I've been threatened by Carl, but have by Paul- on > 20-Dec-2020.) > > z! > ___ > ffmpeg-user mailing list > ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org > https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user > > To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email > ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
Re: [FFmpeg-user] Troublemaker in bugtracker
Proof or it didn't happen? Did you just call Phil a liar? To what purpose? On 1/23/2021 6:16 PM, Bouke wrote: What exactly are you trying to accomplish other than making a fool of yourself? One might ask the same thing. Or one could stop arguing about it, acknowledge that some posters here are brusque and unhelpful, and start trying to give useful answers to people's questions. (I don't think I've been threatened by Carl, but have by Paul- on 20-Dec-2020.) z! ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
Re: [FFmpeg-user] Troublemaker in bugtracker
> On 24 Jan 2021, at 01:58, Phil Rhodes via ffmpeg-user > wrote: > > If you don't like that, there's this. > http://ffmpeg-users.933282.n4.nabble.com/What-is-Segmentation-fault-11-td4677179.html > > Or this. > https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2012-February/004658.html > > On the other hand, it apparently cuts both ways: > https://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2016-June/195315.html > > So I guess that's OK then! > P >On Sunday, 24 January 2021, 00:49:32 GMT, Bouke wrote: What exactly are you trying to accomplish other than making a fool of yourself? Bouke ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
Re: [FFmpeg-user] Troublemaker in bugtracker
If you don't like that, there's this. http://ffmpeg-users.933282.n4.nabble.com/What-is-Segmentation-fault-11-td4677179.html Or this. https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2012-February/004658.html On the other hand, it apparently cuts both ways: https://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2016-June/195315.html So I guess that's OK then! P On Sunday, 24 January 2021, 00:49:32 GMT, Bouke wrote: > On 24 Jan 2021, at 01:42, Phil Rhodes via ffmpeg-user > wrote: > > Happened to me in August 2011. > http://mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2011-August.txt > > P Where? Carl is quoted here and there that month, he did not post anything himself. So could you stop spreading bullshit? Bouke > > On Sunday, 24 January 2021, 00:26:50 GMT, Bouke wrote: > > >> On 23 Jan 2021, at 19:21, Phil Rhodes via ffmpeg-user >> wrote: >> >> Carl Eugen has threatened > > When? > Proof or it did not happen. > > Bouke > > ___ > ffmpeg-user mailing list > ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org > https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user > > To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email > ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". > ___ > ffmpeg-user mailing list > ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org > https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user > > To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email > ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
Re: [FFmpeg-user] Troublemaker in bugtracker
> On 24 Jan 2021, at 01:42, Phil Rhodes via ffmpeg-user > wrote: > > Happened to me in August 2011. > http://mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2011-August.txt > > P Where? Carl is quoted here and there that month, he did not post anything himself. So could you stop spreading bullshit? Bouke > >On Sunday, 24 January 2021, 00:26:50 GMT, Bouke wrote: > > >> On 23 Jan 2021, at 19:21, Phil Rhodes via ffmpeg-user >> wrote: >> >> Carl Eugen has threatened > > When? > Proof or it did not happen. > > Bouke > > ___ > ffmpeg-user mailing list > ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org > https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user > > To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email > ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". > ___ > ffmpeg-user mailing list > ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org > https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user > > To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email > ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
Re: [FFmpeg-user] Troublemaker in bugtracker
Happened to me in August 2011. http://mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2011-August.txt P On Sunday, 24 January 2021, 00:26:50 GMT, Bouke wrote: > On 23 Jan 2021, at 19:21, Phil Rhodes via ffmpeg-user > wrote: > > Carl Eugen has threatened When? Proof or it did not happen. Bouke ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
Re: [FFmpeg-user] Troublemaker in bugtracker
> On 23 Jan 2021, at 19:21, Phil Rhodes via ffmpeg-user > wrote: > > Carl Eugen has threatened When? Proof or it did not happen. Bouke ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
Re: [FFmpeg-user] Troublemaker in bugtracker
>> I am not the moderator of any mailing list. > I beg your pardon, Carl Eugen. What is your functional title? Good question. Carl Eugen has threatened to have people banned, which I would call the behaviour of a moderator. You would be forgiven for assuming he was. One of the problems with the ffmpeg project (as with a lot of open source) is that it is not really clear who runs the project, the mailing list, the IRC channel, or any other related organ, or who speaks with authority on either technical or administrative matters. P ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
Re: [FFmpeg-user] Troublemaker in bugtracker
On 01/23/2021 01:56 AM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: Am Sa., 23. Jan. 2021 um 06:45 Uhr schrieb Mark Filipak (ffmpeg) : On 01/23/2021 12:28 AM, Sergey "GrayFace" Rozhenko via ffmpeg-user wrote: Hello. I've met a childish person with nickname "cehoyos" that made it his goal to block a bug report I've filed. The person to whom you refer is Carl Eugen Hoyos. He's the moderator of the ffmpeg-user list. As already explained to Mark: I am not the moderator of any mailing list. I beg your pardon, Carl Eugen. What is your functional title? ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
Re: [FFmpeg-user] Troublemaker in bugtracker
Am Sa., 23. Jan. 2021 um 06:45 Uhr schrieb Mark Filipak (ffmpeg) : > > On 01/23/2021 12:28 AM, Sergey "GrayFace" Rozhenko via ffmpeg-user wrote: > > Hello. > > > > I've met a childish person with nickname "cehoyos" that made it his goal to > > block a bug report I've > > filed. > > The person to whom you refer is Carl Eugen Hoyos. He's the moderator of the > ffmpeg-user list. As already explained to Mark: I am not the moderator of any mailing list. Carl Eugen ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
Re: [FFmpeg-user] Troublemaker in bugtracker
On 01/23/2021 12:28 AM, Sergey "GrayFace" Rozhenko via ffmpeg-user wrote: Hello. I've met a childish person with nickname "cehoyos" that made it his goal to block a bug report I've filed. The person to whom you refer is Carl Eugen Hoyos. He's the moderator of the ffmpeg-user list. ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
[FFmpeg-user] Troublemaker in bugtracker
Hello. I've met a childish person with nickname "cehoyos" that made it his goal to block a bug report I've filed. At first he tried to make up excuses for doing so, then ran out of them and just starting setting bug status to "invalid" with no reasoning. Here is the bug in question: https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/9074 -- Best regards, Sergey "GrayFace" Rozhenko, mailto:serg...@mail.ru ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
