[filmscanners] Re: LS4000 vs IV ED

2002-01-11 Thread Arthur Entlich

I took a look at the website and the Astia samples.  You need to fix the
titles under the samples, they are either missing (in the cropped images
once they appear) or in the case of the full images, the top two are
listed as Vuescan Single pass, and the bottom one as Nikoscan.  I
suspect the middle image is a multipass scan??

Didn't check the other film types.

Art

Jawed Ashraf wrote:

  Arthur, you'll be pleased to know, all the questions you raise are
tackled
  in my webby for perusal:
 
  http://www.cupidity.force9.co.uk/Scanners/LS40/tests.htm
 
  Jawed
  (LS40/Coolscan IV owner)
 
 
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 Sent: 10 January 2002 14:46
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 Subject: [filmscanners] Re: LS4000 vs IV ED
 
 
 
 
 Dickbo wrote:
 
   - Original Message -
   From: Alex Zabrovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 Do you really notice the difference between regular, one-pass
result
  
  and those from multi-sampling ?
  
  
   yes you do
 
 
 Multipass results are most useful when you have noisy shadows.  By
 adding up several scans, the random noise is averaged out of the scan by
 software.  If the scanner has very good dynamic range which extends into
 the shadow areas, you won't miss this  (the Polaroid SS4000 is reported
 to not need multi pass scanning, for instance).
 
  
  
  Will I really miss this ability scanning either prints or slides ?
  
  
   yes you will
  
  
  
 
 
 I haven't kept up on Vuescan's full abilities, but Ed might have
 programed the ability to use multipass with the Nikon IV.  I think he
 was successful in doing so in an earlier lower end model.  Ask about
 this from someone using the scanner with Vuescan.
 
 Art
 
 
 





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[filmscanners] Re: LS4000 vs IV ED

2002-01-11 Thread Arthur Entlich

OK, so the larger images are all single pass (I missed the slide versus
image settings on the Vuescan)

In Netscape with my system, the mouse pointer/cursor doesn't show
anything.  I ended up using properties to read the name of the jpeg file.

Anyway, doesn't look like multipass in these cases makes a big difference.

Art

Jawed Ashraf wrote:

 Sounds like you whizzed through too quickly.  The top image uses *SLIDE*
 scanning in Vuescan, the middle image uses *IMAGE* scanning in Vuescan and
 the bottom one is Nikon Scan.

 For the crops the mouse pointer is captioned.  Plus, they are described in
 more detail in the How the results are presented section:

 http://www.cupidity.force9.co.uk/Scanners/LS40/how_the_tests_were_done.htm

 (scroll down to the bottom)

 So, yes, in the three crops, the middle one is multipass.

 Jawed


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Subject: [filmscanners] Re: LS4000 vs IV ED


I took a look at the website and the Astia samples.  You need to fix the
titles under the samples, they are either missing (in the cropped images
once they appear) or in the case of the full images, the top two are
listed as Vuescan Single pass, and the bottom one as Nikoscan.  I
suspect the middle image is a multipass scan??

Didn't check the other film types.

Art






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[filmscanners] RE: LS4000 vs IV ED

2002-01-10 Thread Alex Zabrovsky

No jawed, I must be miss your posting.
Would you please to remind me the links ?
Was the IV ED sued to that test ?

Regards,
Alex Z

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Subject: [filmscanners] RE: LS4000 vs IV ED


Alex, did you download the TIFF files from the comparisons I posted of
single- and multi-pass scans?

Jawed

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 Sent: 09 January 2002 22:55
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [filmscanners] LS4000 vs IV ED


 Considering the IV ED to be acquired in near future I just realized it
 hasn't multi-sample scanning ability offered by LS-4000 and some other
 models.
 The question is how this feature contributes to the scanning
 quality in real
 life. Do you really notice the difference between regular, one-pass result
 and those from multi-sampling ?
 Will I really miss this ability scanning either prints or slides ?

 Additional questions:
 Is the IV ED multi-pass enabled (as an opposite to multi-sampling)
 (at least with Vuescan) ?

 Regards,
 Alex Z

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[filmscanners] Re: LS4000 vs IV ED

2002-01-10 Thread Arthur Entlich

I took a look at the website and the Astia samples.  You need to fix the
titles under the samples, they are either missing (in the cropped images
once they appear) or in the case of the full images, the top two are
listed as Vuescan Single pass, and the bottom one as Nikoscan.  I
suspect the middle image is a multipass scan??

Didn't check the other film types.

Art

Jawed Ashraf wrote:

   Arthur, you'll be pleased to know, all the questions you raise are
tackled
   in my webby for perusal:
  
   http://www.cupidity.force9.co.uk/Scanners/LS40/tests.htm
  
   Jawed
   (LS40/Coolscan IV owner)
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Arthur Entlich
  Sent: 10 January 2002 14:46
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [filmscanners] Re: LS4000 vs IV ED
  
  
  
  
  Dickbo wrote:
  
- Original Message -
From: Alex Zabrovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
  Do you really notice the difference between regular, one-pass
result
   
   and those from multi-sampling ?
   
   
yes you do
  
  
  Multipass results are most useful when you have noisy shadows.  By
  adding up several scans, the random noise is averaged out of the scan by
  software.  If the scanner has very good dynamic range which extends into
  the shadow areas, you won't miss this  (the Polaroid SS4000 is reported
  to not need multi pass scanning, for instance).
  
   
   
   Will I really miss this ability scanning either prints or slides ?
   
   
yes you will
   
   
   
  
  
  I haven't kept up on Vuescan's full abilities, but Ed might have
  programed the ability to use multipass with the Nikon IV.  I think he
  was successful in doing so in an earlier lower end model.  Ask about
  this from someone using the scanner with Vuescan.
  
  Art
  
  
  





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[filmscanners] RE: LS4000 vs IV ED

2002-01-10 Thread Jawed Ashraf

Sounds like you whizzed through too quickly.  The top image uses *SLIDE*
scanning in Vuescan, the middle image uses *IMAGE* scanning in Vuescan and
the bottom one is Nikon Scan.

For the crops the mouse pointer is captioned.  Plus, they are described in
more detail in the How the results are presented section:

http://www.cupidity.force9.co.uk/Scanners/LS40/how_the_tests_were_done.htm

(scroll down to the bottom)

So, yes, in the three crops, the middle one is multipass.

Jawed

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 Sent: 11 January 2002 03:28
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [filmscanners] Re: LS4000 vs IV ED


 I took a look at the website and the Astia samples.  You need to fix the
 titles under the samples, they are either missing (in the cropped images
 once they appear) or in the case of the full images, the top two are
 listed as Vuescan Single pass, and the bottom one as Nikoscan.  I
 suspect the middle image is a multipass scan??

 Didn't check the other film types.

 Art



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[filmscanners] Re: LS4000 vs IV ED

2002-01-09 Thread Dickbo


- Original Message -
From: Alex Zabrovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Do you really notice the difference between regular, one-pass result
 and those from multi-sampling ?

yes you do

 Will I really miss this ability scanning either prints or slides ?

yes you will





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[filmscanners] RE: LS4000 vs IV ED

2002-01-09 Thread Jawed Ashraf

Alex, did you download the TIFF files from the comparisons I posted of
single- and multi-pass scans?

Jawed

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alex Zabrovsky
 Sent: 09 January 2002 22:55
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [filmscanners] LS4000 vs IV ED


 Considering the IV ED to be acquired in near future I just realized it
 hasn't multi-sample scanning ability offered by LS-4000 and some other
 models.
 The question is how this feature contributes to the scanning
 quality in real
 life. Do you really notice the difference between regular, one-pass result
 and those from multi-sampling ?
 Will I really miss this ability scanning either prints or slides ?

 Additional questions:
 Is the IV ED multi-pass enabled (as an opposite to multi-sampling)
 (at least with Vuescan) ?

 Regards,
 Alex Z

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