Re: filmscanners: Too picky?

2001-09-02 Thread Arthur Entlich



I appreciate all the feedback I have received in regard to the lazy CCD
sensors and the implication of one Minolta staff that perhaps I should
move up to a more professional scanner if I had such high expectation
(of one which didn't suffer from this problem and severe green channel
noise).  I have forwarded many of the comments to my contact at Minolta
Canada (without identifying characteristics), which I think represents
the expectations of users of film scanners in that market niche.

I'll keep everyone informed of any progress I make with Minolta on these
issues.

Art




Re: filmscanners: Too picky?

2001-08-31 Thread Tony Sleep

On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 03:04:55 -0700  Arthur Entlich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:

 Has anyone noted this problem of bad sensors in other than Minolta
 scanners?  What about with 4000 dpi models?

I've not come across this in any scanner, only TFT screens.

Regards 

Tony Sleep
http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio  exhibit; + film scanner info 
 comparisons



Re: filmscanners: Too picky?

2001-08-30 Thread Mark T.

As an owner (yes I'm a cheap s-o-b) of two of the cheapest scanners on the 
market, the Olympus ES10 and the Acer 2720, I can report neither has/had a 
single dead or lazy pixel.  Nor have any of the CCD's or LCD displays on 
video cameras I have owned (4 to date), and if any of the above did hav'em 
they would be taken straight back to the dealer.  If there was a hassle 
with that, I'd be off to our Consumer Affairs bureau.

I do have a low-end Canon flatbed with a slight 'stripe', but I haven't yet 
pulled it to bits to see if it is just something stuck on the calibration 
area.  If it is a dead'un, back it goes.

I'm happy to clone dust away, but I draw the line at lines...  So if you 
are over fussy, you are nevertheless not alone  :)

mark t

At 03:04 AM 30/08/01 -0700, Art wrote:
My second unit also suffers from duff or lazy pixel sensors on the CCD.

Some have implied I am being too picky.

For people who do NOT have Minolta Dual Dimage II scanners, do you have
one or more lazy or bad sensors in your CCD array, and if so, do you
consider that an acceptable defect and have you decided not to exchange
it?




RE: filmscanners: Too picky?

2001-08-30 Thread Oostrom, Jerry

I have many lazy or perhaps overactive sensors on my Scanwit 2720S (the
infamous yellow stain with negatives or reddish stain and tram lines with
positive film) and I don't find it acceptable, but the warranty period is
over and the people from Acer that did the repair suggested there was no
problem, others from Acer acted as if there was no solution. So I live with
the problem (don't have money for some quality scanner). I wouldn't buy the
Scanwit again and I would buy something wit dust removal, since even though
I use the same antistatic cloth used by film processors to remove dust from
negatives I still get 3 to 30 dustspots on every scan. Perhaps our
living-room is too dust for filmscanning and the scanwit has acquired a fair
amount of dust internally.

BTW. Its not 2 and 2 and 4 pixels, but a lot more with my scanner.

Jerry



 -Original Message-
 From: Arthur Entlich [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 12:05 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  filmscanners: Too picky?
 
 This posting is being repeated in both this and the Scan@leben group.
 
 
 As those who have been following my threads know, I'm currently using a
 Minolta Dual Dimage II scanner, and I'm in discussions with Minolta
 after my first unit was defective.
 
 My second unit also suffers from duff or lazy pixel sensors on the CCD. 
 From what I can see 2 in the green, 2 in the red, and 4 in the blue. 
 These produce light lines across the scan on slides (or dark ones in
 negative scans.
 
 Some have implied I am being too picky.  Before I had the Minolta, I
 had a HP S-20.  Although the Minolta is definitely superior in
 sharpness, resolution and OD,  the HP did not have any lazy sensors that
 I saw.  And I'm of the opinion even one in any channel is too many, as
 they are visible in enlargement 
 
 But, my question is this...
 
 For people who do NOT have Minolta Dual Dimage II scanners, do you have
 one or more lazy or bad sensors in your CCD array, and if so, do you
 consider that an acceptable defect and have you decided not to exchange
 it?
 
 Has anyone noted this problem of bad sensors in other than Minolta
 scanners?  What about with 4000 dpi models?
 
 Art
 



Re: filmscanners: Too picky?

2001-08-30 Thread Bob Armstrong

Art wrote:

 But, my question is this...
 
 For people who do NOT have Minolta Dual Dimage II scanners, do you have
 one or more lazy or bad sensors in your CCD array, and if so, do you
 consider that an acceptable defect and have you decided not to exchange

My LS30 has no sensors so bad that they produce visible lines at 1200% magnification.  
I agree that it is not acceptable to have any sensors so bad that a scan has clearly 
light/dark lines; I would want the scanner replaced.  

Are Minolta telling you that the 'lazy or bad sensors' are not sufficiently bad to 
justify replacing the scanner?

Bob

PS Your question in the heading is, surely, rhetorical ;-)

 






Re: filmscanners: Too picky?

2001-08-30 Thread Herm

My Scanwit does not have any lazy or dead sensors.. it would be an intolerable
condition since every scan would need Photoshop retouching... I can tolerate a
few dead pixels on a monitor screen or a digital camera, but with a scanner you
will end up with a line the whole length of the image.. yuchh!!

Arthur Entlich [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

For people who do NOT have Minolta Dual Dimage II scanners, do you have
one or more lazy or bad sensors in your CCD array, and if so, do you
consider that an acceptable defect and have you decided not to exchange
it?

Herm
Astropics http://home.att.net/~hermperez