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Art - I'm sure you must know that Corel is broke, and is likely to be bought out by Microsoft, if MS can get over the antitrust implications. Corel must stop doing some of the things they had been doing, since these activities aren't contributing financially. Enough anyway. Speaking of leaders leading us astray... Corel has stopped all production on Linux products. They will, for now, continue to sell those they have produced, and will shortly sell their Linux division. They claim they will spend their efforts on getting their current products (Corel Draw, Paint, Word Perfect and the Meta products) into more hands and working better on Macs. Then again they also claim they'll be in the black (as opposed to a black hole, as they currently are) by year end ;-) Apparently the US Dept. of Justice is looking into the MS Corel connection for possible further violation of anti-trust legislation, in regard to the Linux sale. Art
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On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:39:41 -0800 Arthur Entlich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Doesn't this speak volumes about where one finger can be pointed. Thanks for this, I'm gonna track down Gears. www.gearcdr.com - but be warned, it is a disconcertingly strange piece of software (though early-version Vuescan users will feel right at home ;-) I have a fairly old version, 4.1 ISTR - pre v4 was almost incomprehensible. It is also possible to make it fall over by doing things in a sequence it isn't expecting. But it does work well, so I've stuck with it. I have done test burns of CD's from data being pulled across the LAN and without making a virtual image first, which is a completely ridiculous thing to try. The buffering coped just fine, but Gear seemed to hit a bug when trying to close the disk. Later versions may have fixed that. Nero also has many fans. Adaptec has a much nicer UI but seems to be the market leader in consumption of blanks to no useful effect. Regards Tony Sleep http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio exhibit; + film scanner info comparisons
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On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:01:25 -0500, Larry wrote: haven't paid too much detail to the settings on the Plextor. Since it's gotten such a high rating in PC Magazine I felt I could trust it. I've probably burned about 300 CD's flawlessly since purchasing it in September. It took a few minutes to find, but I thought the list might be interested in the reviews Larry was referring to. Computer Shopper review http://www.zdnet.com/products/stories/pipreviews/0,8827,258909,00.html PC Magazine review http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/stories/reviews/0,6755,2598110,00.html Summary: Considering the PlexWriter's speed, fault-tolerance features, and solid software bundle, it is difficult to recommend any other CD-RW drive to mainstream users. Regards Yuri
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windif is a great tool... I think it's in the Reskit folder of the Win 98 CD - Original Message - From: "Andreas Kurz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 02:28 Subject: RE: filmscanners: storage There is a tool in the support folder of the windows cd called " windiff ". You can compare single files or directories with this program. I use it after burning CDR. In the burning program "WINonCD 3.7" was an option to verify the burned data with originals. I don't know whether it is still in the actual version of WinOnCD. regards, Andi "Terry Carroll" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me, too. I wish there was a way of running scandisk on a CDR. It would be pretty simple to make a Windows wrapper for FC, or frankly it would be pretty simple to write a VB tool to do a binary file compare. Rob
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On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:42:27 -0700 Michael Moore ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: In regard tp speed of the burn, it is my understanding that it is best to use a slow burn speed (2x) as opposed to the higher speeds if one wants to minimize potential read errors on client's computers...any comments? I still use the original Ricoh RO-1420C SCSI CDR I bought 5 years ago, originally in a 486, and a mere 2x write speed. Used with Gear s/w from Elektroson which has some clever buffering arrangements but a Martian UI, it has never produced a single coaster on any brand CDR. This is on a dogsbody PC Celeron400 with 128Mb which also does duty as a POP3 proxy server, DNS proxy, DAT backup and fax and print server for the rest of the LAN. Unless I have done something dumb to disrupt it, it always works. The usual error is me forgetting to cancel a scheduled DAT backup which kicks off halfway thru the burn - it doesn't like that. Incoming faxes, text editing etc are no problem. Disks are EIDE. I don't even bother with a verify, just index the disk with Portfolio. Never had a client report read problems either. If I use Adaptec S/w (latest here is v3.5 I think) the slightest trace of a system glitch produces coasters. My success rate falls to about 25% instead of 99%. One day when Santa is nice to me I'll get a new SCSI Plextor with burn-proof. Regards Tony Sleep http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio exhibit; + film scanner info comparisons
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- Original Message - From: "Mystic" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 6:41 AM Subject: Re: filmscanners: storage Check out Nero at www.ahead.de I think verifying the burn is an option. It will also do a "Test Only" and a "Test and Burn" as well as just a "Burn" It will indeed. I have it and use it myself. What it will not do is re-write. Richard Corbett
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Richard wrote [re:nero]: It will indeed. I have it and use it myself. What it will not do is re-write. :-7 I don't have a rewriter so I can't test it - I'm sure the current version is supposed to. Ahead also have another product which turns a cdrw effectively into a huge floppy (using packet technology). Rob Rob Geraghty [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wordweb.com
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Tony Sleep wrote: I still use the original Ricoh RO-1420C SCSI CDR I bought 5 years ago, originally in a 486, and a mere 2x write speed. Used with Gear s/w from Elektroson which has some clever buffering arrangements but a Martian UI, it has never produced a single coaster on any brand CDR. This is on a dogsbody PC Celeron400 with 128Mb which also does duty as a POP3 proxy server, DNS proxy, DAT backup and fax and print server for the rest of the LAN. Seems the secret is using a SCSI interfaced drive. If I use Adaptec S/w (latest here is v3.5 I think) the slightest trace of a system glitch produces coasters. My success rate falls to about 25% instead of 99%. Doesn't this speak volumes about where one finger can be pointed. Thanks for this, I'm gonna track down Gears. Art
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Hummm... I have formated and re-written several times; seemed to do a fine job. It's the only program I have ever used. Never did install the supplied Adeptec software bundled with the CDRW (a Teac) Drive. Mike - Original Message - From: "Dicky" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 12:29 Subject: Re: filmscanners: storage - Original Message - From: "Mystic" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 6:41 AM Subject: Re: filmscanners: storage Check out Nero at www.ahead.de I think verifying the burn is an option. It will also do a "Test Only" and a "Test and Burn" as well as just a "Burn" It will indeed. I have it and use it myself. What it will not do is re-write. Richard Corbett
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The new burn-proof drives are the ones to go for as they render that explanation obsolete! In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cooke, Julie) wrote: It is safest to burn at 2x, although I always burn at 6x. This depends on the buffer underrun size of the CD recorder (why Plextors are especially reliable). Taken from http://www.fadden.com/cdrfaq/ "The CD recording process can't be interrupted in mid-session. Once the laser starts writing, any interruption would create a physical gap on the disc that could confuse CD readers. The recorder must always have data to write, from the moment the recording starts until the session ends. To avoid a situation where a temporary slowdown in the computer causes the write process to fail, the makers of CD recorders put a write buffer in the drive, usually between 512K and 4MB in size. Data read from the hard drive, tape, or another CD is stored in the buffer, and pulled out as needed by the recorder. If the recorder requests data from the write buffer, but there's none there, it's called a buffer underrun. The disc is still spinning, but there's no data to write, so the recording process aborts. You can still use the disc with multisession CD-ROM drives by closing the session and starting another, assuming there's enough space left on the CD, and assuming your pre-mastering software didn't choose to finalize the disc for you. If you were using disc-at-once recording, you're probably out of luck. Advice for preventing buffer underruns is scattered throughout this FAQ. A brief summary: Use a fast, AV-friendly hard drive (i.e. one that doesn't do slow thermal recalibrations). Pretty much all drives sold in the last couple of years fall into this category. You don't need a screaming AV-optimized drive. Record at a slow speed - it takes longer to empty the buffer when recording at 1x. Don't do anything else with the computer while recording. Don't record from a file server. Defragment your HD, especially if you're doing on-the-fly recording. Record from a disc image file rather than on-the-fly. Depending on your setup, putting the recorder and your hard drive on separate SCSI controllers may be necessary. Keep your CD-R cool. Sometimes the drives fail when they overheat. Also watch out for things like anti-virus programs that wake up, virtual memory settings that cause swapping, screen savers that activate during the CD creation process, unusual network activity, and background downloads of data or faxes. One way to check is to run the HD defragmenter in Win95. If it restarts every few seconds, it's because something is hitting the drive." HTH Julie In regard tp speed of the burn, it is my understanding that it is best to use a slow burn speed (2x) as opposed to the higher speeds if one wants to minimize potential read errors on client's computers...any comments? Mike Moore ::: Larry Berman Web Sites for Artists: http://BermanGraphics.com Compare Image Compression from the top Graphics Programs: http://ImageCompress.com Explore the Art Show Jury process from a web site: http://ArtShowJury.com :::
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"Terry Carroll" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me, too. I wish there was a way of running scandisk on a CDR. Someone mentioned a tool previously on this list that does binary file compares recursively, but I don't remember the name. If you are writing a single directory to CDR, it's easy to do a binary file compare using FC in a DOS box on a PC. FC /b does a binary file comparison and you can use wildcards to scan every file in a directory. You can get all the flags for FC by typing FC /? at the command line. It would be pretty simple to make a Windows wrapper for FC, or frankly it would be pretty simple to write a VB tool to do a binary file compare. Rob
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There is a tool in the support folder of the windows cd called " windiff ". You can compare single files or directories with this program. I use it after burning CDR. In the burning program "WINonCD 3.7" was an option to verify the burned data with originals. I don't know whether it is still in the actual version of WinOnCD. regards, Andi "Terry Carroll" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me, too. I wish there was a way of running scandisk on a CDR. It would be pretty simple to make a Windows wrapper for FC, or frankly it would be pretty simple to write a VB tool to do a binary file compare. Rob
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frankly it would be pretty simple to write a VB tool to do a binary file compare. Ah! A volunteer! If you get it to me by Tuesday, I'll give it a thorough testing, and you should be able to release by Friday ;-)
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Terry Carroll wrote: I don't do any of that stuff. I can just start the burn and go on reading my email, using the web, Microsoft Word, etc. That's never caused a problem. I'm running a 64M (I think) Pentium II with a two-year-old HP CDRW. May I ask which interface your HP CD-R has... SCSI or E-IDE/APATI? Thanks, Art
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At 13:56 17-02-01 -0500, you wrote: Adaptec easyCD does have a "verify after write" switch ... it is however, in unintuitive location ... 'file|CD layout properties' ... Not only is it 'unintuitive', but misnamed. It is labeled 'Automatically verify file systems'. I would have never guessed that it meant (from help): I am using easy CD creator 3.5c but I can't find that option anywhere ??? Stuart at it compares them AFTER they have been recorded...
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The ftp server (in Australia apparently) wouldn't answer but I found the newest version (1.1 dated 12/31/00) at the developer's: http://www.pankhurst.com/softdown.htm Maris - Original Message - From: "shAf" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 11:15 AM Subject: Re: filmscanners: storage | Hersch writes ... | | ..., what I think is adequate verification is bringing | up an image near the top of the list burned, and another near | the bottom. If they come up and look good, all should be well. | ... | | There was a time when I simply had my thumbnail program create all | thumbs, and I was satisfied. Since then I found better methods | (leastwise for Win98/NT): | | Adaptec easyCD does have a "verify after write" switch ... it is | however, in unintuitive location ... 'file|CD layout properties' ... | | You can find software available for checking the integrity of | files ... for example calculating the checksum of files in one | directory versus another. "PA check" is free and available here: | | http://www3.zdnet.com.au/swlib/Utilities/File_Utilities/00165T.html | | shAf :o) |
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Stuart writes ... Not only is it 'unintuitive', but misnamed. It is labeled 'Automatically verify file systems'. I would have never guessed that it meant (from help): I am using easy CD creator 3.5c but I can't find that option anywhere ??? ... Oops! ... sorry 'bout that ... I happen to be using v.4. You might then move all files to a single directory ... check with directory "properities" for Mbytes contained ... write the files to the CD, and then verify the checksum for both the directory and CD with "PAcheck". BTW ... "PAcheck" has a problem with it remembering the last drive (or directory) verified. That is ... if you verified the CD drive last, and there is nothing in the CD drive (or if the directory no longer exists), then PAcheck will not run. You can fix this by deleting the PACHECK.INI file ... then checking a directory which will always exist ... and then changing the properties of the INI file to "read only". Otherwise, it is a very useful utility. shAf :o)
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Cooke, Julie wrote: It is safest to burn at 2x, although I always burn at 6x. This depends on the buffer underrun size of the CD recorder (why Plextors are especially reliable). Taken from http://www.fadden.com/cdrfaq/ "The CD recording process can't be interrupted in mid-session. Once the laser starts writing, any interruption would create a physical gap on the disc that could confuse CD readers. This is the advantage to the new "burn proof" firmware/hardware incorporated into some new CD-R units. Advice for preventing buffer underruns is scattered throughout this FAQ. A brief summary: Use a fast, AV-friendly hard drive (i.e. one that doesn't do slow thermal recalibrations). Pretty much all drives sold in the last couple of years fall into this category. You don't need a screaming AV-optimized drive. Record at a slow speed - it takes longer to empty the buffer when recording at 1x. Don't do anything else with the computer while recording. Don't record from a file server. Defragment your HD, especially if you're doing on-the-fly recording. Record from a disc image file rather than on-the-fly. Depending on your setup, putting the recorder and your hard drive on separate SCSI controllers may be necessary. Keep your CD-R cool. Sometimes the drives fail when they overheat. Also watch out for things like anti-virus programs that wake up, virtual memory settings that cause swapping, screen savers that activate during the CD creation process, unusual network activity, and background downloads of data or faxes. One way to check is to run the HD defragmenter in Win95. If it restarts every few seconds, it's because something is hitting the drive." HTH Julie All very good and helpful info. I just wish the CD-R manufacturers would have been honest about this from the beginning. They give a false sense of the ease of writing, and speed. That 8 minute full burn now requires, recording to the hard drive first (4-8 minutes), then shutting off all "TSR" type programs running the the background, then burning without moving your mouse (let alone anything else), then deleting the hard drive copy, and then rebooting your system to re-engage the "TSR"s. Suddenly we have a 1/2 hour process, if it doesn't fail on the first attempt. Art
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Michael Moore wrote: In regard tp speed of the burn, it is my understanding that it is best to use a slow burn speed (2x) as opposed to the higher speeds if one wants to minimize potential read errors on client's computers...any comments? Mike Moore My experience is the maximum speed on my CD-R is 8X is less reliable than the 4x when writing the disks. Plextor (yes, there is a "T" in there... I had to check the booklet I got with the drive) told me its bad media more often than not. Who knows? Art
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Advice for preventing buffer underruns is scattered throughout this FAQ. A brief summary: One thing I wish the CD recording software did was give you an option to VERIFY the burn went OK.
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On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Austin Franklin wrote: One thing I wish the CD recording software did was give you an option to VERIFY the burn went OK. Me, too. I wish there was a way of running scandisk on a CDR. -- Terry Carroll | No representations, warranties or characterizations Santa Clara, CA | regarding any actual university, including any named [EMAIL PROTECTED] | "UC Sunnydale" or "University of California at Modell delendus est | Sunnydale" are intended and none should be inferred.
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Hi all: I have a Ricoh CD Burner and Adaptec software. After reading this thread, I wonder if the test that the Adeptec software performs is not the same as doing scan disk. I thought it did. Am I wrong? Gordon Terry Carroll wrote: On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Austin Franklin wrote: One thing I wish the CD recording software did was give you an option to VERIFY the burn went OK. Me, too. I wish there was a way of running scandisk on a CDR. -- Terry Carroll | No representations, warranties or characterizations Santa Clara, CA | regarding any actual university, including any named [EMAIL PROTECTED] | "UC Sunnydale" or "University of California at Modell delendus est | Sunnydale" are intended and none should be inferred.
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I can recommend the Yamaha recorder if you cannot afford the Plextor. Julie -Original Message- From: Frank Paris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 3:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: filmscanners: storage Then you agree with a lot of software engineers and system administrators. Frank Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=62684 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Austin Franklin Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 6:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: filmscanners: storage HP nothing but trouble. Plextor, never a problem. I agree with you on this one Frank. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frank Paris Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: filmscanners: storage Funny that no one is mentioning Plextor. Built like a tank. In my circle, it is the brand to get.
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Let's face it. A lot of problems with CD-R burners have to do with the system they are on, what software is being used, the blank disk quality and the interface on the burner. I'm suspect of any overly broad comments about these drives in terms of brands. I get lots of buffer underruns and other failed burns and I have a Plextor. I spoke with their chief engineer, a very nice guy, BTW, for nearly an hour. He gave me a rundown on the dozens of non-burner problems that can cause difficulties. CD-R burning is just now beginning to come of age in terms of working reliably, and it is due to many factors, including improved blank disks (Plextor suggests sticking with only the brands of disks they "recommend" on their website), faster processors and memory, better code by Adaptec and others, people learning how to configure their systems better, newer, faster and more compatible CD-ROM drives to copy from, etc. If you want a minimum of problems, go SCSI on whatever brand drive you get, the IDE interfacing is not as reliable when it is fighting to support your hard drive, CD-ROM, etc, at the same time. Get a drive with "burn proof" by Sanyo which uses a new system to locate the location in an interrupted burn and continue it, which allows you to surf the web while burning a CD, and other things. Be careful, when using an IDE interfaced system, to place the burner as your master drive, and if possible leave the CD burner as the only device on that leg of your IDE interface. Get a burner with at least 2 megs buffer built in. All the manufacturers, IMHO, jumped the gun on selling CD-R burners as an easy to use peripheral. They are only just getting there. I have heard of very few problems overall with any of the name brand CD-R burners, but lots of configuration related problems. Art Michael Moore wrote: I have an HP 9210i (10x burn) that I have put about 50 disks through and will put lots more in the coming months.. I checked out the reviews and user forums before I bought the HP... the Sony was rated along with HP as one of the tops.. So far, the HP does a great job and my clients have had no problems reading the discs... Mike Moore
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jimhayes wrote: Yamaha. Don't get a Phillips or an HP. I just got a settlement from a class action suit against Phillips CD recorder. Seems to me he SHOULD buy a Phillips... after all, it's not every day you get money back to buy a new product that is several generations ahead of the earlier product. The reason you got that money is because Phillips misrepresented the storage capacity of the drive, and unfortunately for them, they sold one to a lawyer with some time on his hands. Since HP used the Phillips unit in their computers, people owning those computers also got a settlement. So don't complain, you got use of the original drive way back when CD-R was young, then you got cash to buy a brand new drive today. Most of us just have to junk the junk. Art
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I was only agreeing with you. Would you mind forwarding me the names of the software 'engineers' (Is software engineering anyway? and since when does being a software 'engineer' mean you know anything about CD recorders?) and system administrators with whom you say I am in agreement with? I would like to query them first hand. ;-) (for those of you who are humor impaired, most of that was meant as a joke) Then you agree with a lot of software engineers and system administrators. Frank Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=62684 HP nothing but trouble. Plextor, never a problem. I agree with you on this one Frank. Funny that no one is mentioning Plextor. Built like a tank. In my circle, it is the brand to get.
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I use a Plextor and Yamaha, both good . Ricoh is up there too ! Michael Wilkinson. 106 Holyhead Road,Ketley, Telford.Shropshire TF 15 DJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.infocus-photography.co.uk For Trannies and Negs from Digital Files
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I've successfully used an 8100 series HP burner for two years. Recently I started using the Plextor 12x10x32A in my second computer. It's speed is outstanding and has the burn proof technology. But then I never use the computer for anything else while burning a CD. In addition, the latest Adaptec's Easy CD has a 20 second closing time compared to the older one of two minutes. Larry ::: Larry Berman Web Sites for Artists: http://BermanGraphics.com Compare Image Compression from the top Graphics Programs: http://ImageCompress.com Explore the Art Show Jury process from a web site: http://ArtShowJury.com :::
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I'm really not "complaining" about the Phillips recorder. I did get use out of it. I made a much bigger mistake previously- I bought a 2x HP unit back when Recorders cost $1000 (yes it had a Phillips core) and it trashed within 1 1/2 years. It had to be replaced twice under warranty. Lot's of coasters. I got no rebate then. My second recorder from Phillips cost about $360 I think, so at least I got something back this time. But after two underwhelming go's at a "Phillips made" recorder, I'm not going to repeat the mistake. The problem that the second recorders were exihibiting was that as they continued to be used, their capacity decreased, i.e, suddenly they couldn't handle over 550 mb, then 500mb, etc There are restrictions on my $200 rebate: 1) The coupon is only good towards the purchase of a Phillips, Magnavox, or Norelco product, 2) Even then it can only be applied towards 80% max of purchase price, 3) A maximum of two products can be applied towards the rebate. This is better than a poke in the eye- I can buy a Phillips TV for $250 and get $200 refunded. But I'm not a TV fan. My point is that I didn't wish to repeat my mistake a third time. How can I possibly recomend buying a Phillips recorder again? Why not just get a Yamaha, or as some have had good exprience with it, a Plexor? Of course, no recorder will last forever. I suspect my Yamaha will pull longer for me though. I heartily agree that the environment that the reorder is in wrt SCSI, length of cables, termination, matters a heck of a lot- even more than brand. No arguement there. Also different manufacturers recomend different brands of CD-R(W) over others. Interestingly, Yamaha shys away from recomending gold disks if you ask them, although I have had no trouble with Mitsui golds. Anyone know what else Phillips makes besides TV's and CDR's that would be reliable? Maybe I should replace my stereo?g Arthur Entlich wrote: jimhayes wrote: Yamaha. Don't get a Phillips or an HP. I just got a settlement from a class action suit against Phillips CD recorder. Seems to me he SHOULD buy a Phillips... after all, it's not every day you get money back to buy a new product that is several generations ahead of the earlier product. The reason you got that money is because Phillips misrepresented the storage capacity of the drive, and unfortunately for them, they sold one to a lawyer with some time on his hands. Since HP used the Phillips unit in their computers, people owning those computers also got a settlement. So don't complain, you got use of the original drive way back when CD-R was young, then you got cash to buy a brand new drive today. Most of us just have to junk the junk. Art -- Jim Hayes Pixelography: The marriage of silicon and silver. Images at http://www.jymis.com/~jimhayes
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When I was using the HP burner, I think I was burning 2x. It took about 36 minutes for a full CD of images. When I started using the Plextor, I left it set to the default which now did the same thing in under 8 minutes. I haven't paid too much detail to the settings on the Plextor. Since it's gotten such a high rating in PC Magazine I felt I could trust it. I've probably burned about 300 CD's flawlessly since purchasing it in September. My investment of $239 (from Buy.com) has saved me countless hours of work. I make duplicate copies for my partner of all the work files that go into the web site images for our clients. Also, it's important to note that having two computers networked minimizes the amount of wasted time while burning CD's. Larry In regard tp speed of the burn, it is my understanding that it is best to use a slow burn speed (2x) as opposed to the higher speeds if one wants to minimize potential read errors on client's computers...any comments? Mike Moore ::: Larry Berman Web Sites for Artists: http://BermanGraphics.com Compare Image Compression from the top Graphics Programs: http://ImageCompress.com Explore the Art Show Jury process from a web site: http://ArtShowJury.com :::
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It is safest to burn at 2x, although I always burn at 6x. This depends on the buffer underrun size of the CD recorder (why Plextors are especially reliable). Taken from http://www.fadden.com/cdrfaq/ "The CD recording process can't be interrupted in mid-session. Once the laser starts writing, any interruption would create a physical gap on the disc that could confuse CD readers. The recorder must always have data to write, from the moment the recording starts until the session ends. To avoid a situation where a temporary slowdown in the computer causes the write process to fail, the makers of CD recorders put a write buffer in the drive, usually between 512K and 4MB in size. Data read from the hard drive, tape, or another CD is stored in the buffer, and pulled out as needed by the recorder. If the recorder requests data from the write buffer, but there's none there, it's called a buffer underrun. The disc is still spinning, but there's no data to write, so the recording process aborts. You can still use the disc with multisession CD-ROM drives by closing the session and starting another, assuming there's enough space left on the CD, and assuming your pre-mastering software didn't choose to finalize the disc for you. If you were using disc-at-once recording, you're probably out of luck. Advice for preventing buffer underruns is scattered throughout this FAQ. A brief summary: Use a fast, AV-friendly hard drive (i.e. one that doesn't do slow thermal recalibrations). Pretty much all drives sold in the last couple of years fall into this category. You don't need a screaming AV-optimized drive. Record at a slow speed - it takes longer to empty the buffer when recording at 1x. Don't do anything else with the computer while recording. Don't record from a file server. Defragment your HD, especially if you're doing on-the-fly recording. Record from a disc image file rather than on-the-fly. Depending on your setup, putting the recorder and your hard drive on separate SCSI controllers may be necessary. Keep your CD-R cool. Sometimes the drives fail when they overheat. Also watch out for things like anti-virus programs that wake up, virtual memory settings that cause swapping, screen savers that activate during the CD creation process, unusual network activity, and background downloads of data or faxes. One way to check is to run the HD defragmenter in Win95. If it restarts every few seconds, it's because something is hitting the drive." HTH Julie In regard tp speed of the burn, it is my understanding that it is best to use a slow burn speed (2x) as opposed to the higher speeds if one wants to minimize potential read errors on client's computers...any comments? Mike Moore ::: Larry Berman Web Sites for Artists: http://BermanGraphics.com Compare Image Compression from the top Graphics Programs: http://ImageCompress.com Explore the Art Show Jury process from a web site: http://ArtShowJury.com :::
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Larry, Thanks form the reply... My HP will burn at 10x, but I use it at 2x 'cuz I read somewhere that will give me less problems when I distribute the CD to my clients... I am about to hook up another PC with my image box to improve workflow, particularly as regard to using one only for scans and burns, the other for PShop work on the images... Any suggestions in that regard? Mike M. Larry Berman wrote: When I was using the HP burner, I think I was burning 2x. It took about 36 minutes for a full CD of images. When I started using the Plextor, I left it set to the default which now did the same thing in under 8 minutes. I haven't paid too much detail to the settings on the Plextor. Since it's gotten such a high rating in PC Magazine I felt I could trust it. I've probably burned about 300 CD's flawlessly since purchasing it in September. My investment of $239 (from Buy.com) has saved me countless hours of work. I make duplicate copies for my partner of all the work files that go into the web site images for our clients. Also, it's important to note that having two computers networked minimizes the amount of wasted time while burning CD's. Larry In regard tp speed of the burn, it is my understanding that it is best to use a slow burn speed (2x) as opposed to the higher speeds if one wants to minimize potential read errors on client's computers...any comments? Mike Moore ::: Larry Berman Web Sites for Artists: http://BermanGraphics.com Compare Image Compression from the top Graphics Programs: http://ImageCompress.com Explore the Art Show Jury process from a web site: http://ArtShowJury.com :::
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On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Austin Franklin wrote: HP nothing but trouble. Plextor, never a problem. I agree with you on this one Frank. I've had no trouble with my HP in two years. I have burnt exactly one coaster, just last week, and the reason for that is my DSL dropped while burning; when my DSL drops, it freezes the entire system (the mouse pointer can't even be moved) for several seconds. I can't blame this on the CDRW. Oh, I also had a series of failures using no-name CDRW blanks. As long as I stick to CDR or name-brand CDRW blanks, I've been fine. I will note that I've had a lot of hassles with the Adaptec software that came with the drive, and with the commercial version I foolishly shelled out bucks for, hoping for better results. I've since migrated to Nero, which has had flawless performance. -- Terry Carroll | No representations, warranties or characterizations Santa Clara, CA | regarding any actual university, including any named [EMAIL PROTECTED] | "UC Sunnydale" or "University of California at Modell delendus est | Sunnydale" are intended and none should be inferred.
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Hi Mike, I use my newest "A" (currently a 550) for Photoshop and scanning. It has dual monitors off a Matrox G400 graphics card. My older "B" is a 266 and I use it as an Internet machine, leaving it on for e-mail and browsing mostly all the time. Both have CD burners. I have both in a NetGear network which also includes my laptop. I'm currently working in Orlando at my Fathers house for the winter and will be leaving the 266 here for him. I'll probably be getting the latest fast new computer in late March when I return home. Two tips. I use ACDSee as an image management / viewing program. It's viewing capabilities are beyond compare. We're currently preparing an article on it for PEI Magazine. I keep it running on my second computer when working in Photoshop or my web design program. It's easy to drag and drop images into other programs. ICS (Internet connection sharing) is relatively difficult to attain and even more difficult to maintain. I was able to use it for about three months before it disappeared one day, never to be seen again. Instead I use a second phone line and second ISP for those times I need to publish from the A Computer. When I get closer to the end of March, I'll probably be asking for advice from the forum on purchasing a new computer for graphics. Larry Thanks form the reply... My HP will burn at 10x, but I use it at 2x 'cuz I read somewhere that will give me less problems when I distribute the CD to my clients... I am about to hook up another PC with my image box to improve workflow, particularly as regard to using one only for scans and burns, the other for PShop work on the images... Any suggestions in that regard? Mike M. ::: Larry Berman Web Sites for Artists: http://BermanGraphics.com Compare Image Compression from the top Graphics Programs: http://ImageCompress.com Explore the Art Show Jury process from a web site: http://ArtShowJury.com :::
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HP nothing but trouble. Plextor, never a problem. I agree with you on this one Frank. I've had no trouble with my HP in two years. Me either. I have two of them. The reason they haven't given me any trouble in two years is because I bought a Plextor, and don't use them any more ;-)
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Jim wrote: I bought a 2x HP unit back when Recorders cost $1000 (yes it had a Phillips core) and it trashed within 1 1/2 years. That's been my experience with Phillips, but with a shorter time frame. I'll say this--their customer service people bend over backwards, and are quite good. But the short lifetime of their products sort of negates their efforts, at least the ones I've gotten (several). One swallow (the bird type) doesn't make a Spring, but several swallows...Oh well. You know what I mean. Best regards--LRA --- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com
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Yes, the DSL SW out there truly sucks. My NT machine was crashing many times a day, and so was my Mac. I bought a Linksys DSL Router and haven't crashed since. I highly recommend it. FWIW, I've had good luck w/my SCSI Yamaha CDRW. I also had a Plextor at work and it was good too. Brian. - Original Message - From: "Terry Carroll" [EMAIL PROTECTED] coaster, just last week, and the reason for that is my DSL dropped while burning; when my DSL drops, it freezes the entire system (the mouse pointer can't even be moved) for several seconds. I can't blame this on the CDRW.
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Yamaha. Don't get a Phillips or an HP. I just got a settlement from a class action suit against Phillips CD recorder. I don't know how Mac's work (PC here), but I have dual 80 mb/sec SCSI HD's and the Yamaha on the same chain with a couple of other things and an active terminator (not passive) on the end. But I have the scanner on a second SCSI card all to itself. I try to keep all internal and external SCSI cables short. Never created a "coaster" even at 8x with this setup. Tips? If you can, write a disk image file first instead of recording on the fly. Don't record at the CD-R(W)'s top speed if you don't have to. Turn off apps running in backgound and defrag your disks. Sara Jane Boyers wrote: .. any suggestions on a good CD-RW to hold all the stuff? And any considerations I should use as I shop? -- Jim Hayes Pixelography: The marriage of silicon and silver. Images at http://www.jymis.com/~jimhayes
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Ditto on the Phillips; I've found them unreliable. I don't think HP is OEM. My Sony is a bit slow, but doesn't give trouble and the price is right. --LRA From: jimhayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yamaha. Don't get a Phillips or an HP. I just got a settlement from a class action suit against Phillips CD recorder. clip Sara Jane Boyers wrote: .. any suggestions on a good CD-RW to hold all the stuff? And any considerations I should use as I shop? -- --- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com
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I will have to agree with this. I have yet to make a coaster with my Yamaha as well. Great piece of hardware. Spencer Stone -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of jimhayes Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: storage Yamaha. Don't get a Phillips or an HP. I just got a settlement from a class action suit against Phillips CD recorder. I don't know how Mac's work (PC here), but I have dual 80 mb/sec SCSI HD's and the Yamaha on the same chain with a couple of other things and an active terminator (not passive) on the end. But I have the scanner on a second SCSI card all to itself. I try to keep all internal and external SCSI cables short. Never created a "coaster" even at 8x with this setup. Tips? If you can, write a disk image file first instead of recording on the fly. Don't record at the CD-R(W)'s top speed if you don't have to. Turn off apps running in backgound and defrag your disks. Sara Jane Boyers wrote: .. any suggestions on a good CD-RW to hold all the stuff? And any considerations I should use as I shop? -- Jim Hayes Pixelography: The marriage of silicon and silver. Images at http://www.jymis.com/~jimhayes
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HP nothing but trouble. Plextor, never a problem. I agree with you on this one Frank. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frank Paris Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: filmscanners: storage Funny that no one is mentioning Plextor. Built like a tank. In my circle, it is the brand to get. Frank Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=62684 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sumtingwong Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 5:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: filmscanners: storage I will have to agree with this. I have yet to make a coaster with my Yamaha as well. Great piece of hardware. Spencer Stone -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of jimhayes Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: storage Yamaha. Don't get a Phillips or an HP. I just got a settlement from a class action suit against Phillips CD recorder. I don't know how Mac's work (PC here), but I have dual 80 mb/sec SCSI HD's and the Yamaha on the same chain with a couple of other things and an active terminator (not passive) on the end. But I have the scanner on a second SCSI card all to itself. I try to keep all internal and external SCSI cables short. Never created a "coaster" even at 8x with this setup. Tips? If you can, write a disk image file first instead of recording on the fly. Don't record at the CD-R(W)'s top speed if you don't have to. Turn off apps running in backgound and defrag your disks. Sara Jane Boyers wrote: .. any suggestions on a good CD-RW to hold all the stuff? And any considerations I should use as I shop? -- Jim Hayes Pixelography: The marriage of silicon and silver. Images at http://www.jymis.com/~jimhayes
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I have an HP 9210i (10x burn) that I have put about 50 disks through and will put lots more in the coming months.. I checked out the reviews and user forums before I bought the HP... the Sony was rated along with HP as one of the tops.. So far, the HP does a great job and my clients have had no problems reading the discs... Mike Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/14/01 7:13:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ditto on the Phillips; I've found them unreliable. I don't think HP is OEM. My Sony is a bit slow, but doesn't give trouble and the price is right. --LRA From: jimhayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yamaha. Don't get a Phillips or an HP. I just got a settlement from a class action suit against Phillips CD recorder. In the interest of presenting both sides: my HP9110i burner has performed well, although I have not put many disks through it yet. Bruce
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Sara Jane: As a non techie, I would say you have 2 chioces. One a SCSI CD writer to ensure decent speed in the process and the other is an additional disk drive. If you go the SCSI route, consider a Ricoh. I have one and it works fine. The software is a little clunky and takes a little getting used to. I opted for the internal drive and I use the Adaptec SCSI board it came with to chain the Nikon LS-30 scanner. I left the board that came with the scanner in the sealed package. Both have been working fine with no hiccups since they were installed. Gordon Sara Jane Boyers wrote: I am so enjoying the list, learning as I go. I am happily scanning away on my new Minolta Scan Elite - running through slide scans quickly right now as I print out images I'll soon convert and put into a quark mockup for a new book project and here's my question I knew I wouldn't have enough storage room since I'm scanning at high resolution and my files seem pretty big, especially after I work on them in photoshop and retain the layers, so any suggestions on a good CD-RW to hold all the stuff? And any considerations I should use as I shop? I am on a year-and-one-half year old MAC powerbook G3 (bronze keyboard) with USB, one SCSSI being taken up by the two scanners) but no firewire. -- Sara Jane Boyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.teenpowerpolitics.com TEEN POWER POLITICS: MAKE YOURSELF HEARD A Millbrook Press/Twenty-First Century Book ISBN: 0-7613-1391-5, paper $9.95/ISBN 0-7613-1307-9 hardcover, $24.90 Email me if you'd like to be on my newsletter update list! LIFE DOESN'T FRIGHTEN ME Stewart, Tabori Chang A Publisher's Weekly "Best Book" of the Year, NYPL "Best Books for Teens", ALA "Book for Reluctant Readers", AIGA "50 Best Designed Books" O BEAUTIFUL FOR SPACIOUS SKIES Chronicle Books
