Re: filmscanners: which scanner for slides ? ( SCSI vs USB )
If you want to turn on your SCSI device after your computer is already booted, No problem. Just right click on MY COMPUTER, left click on properties,select DEVICE Manager tab and left click on REFRESH and then OK. This is for a windows machine. I don't know what you need to do for an Apple machine. Regards, Ron - Original Message - From: Steve Greenbank [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 5:08 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: which scanner for slides ? 3. Minolta may be USB, but USB devices has the advantage of being hot-swappable which means they can be turned on after the computer has been booted, and it will be detected. If I remember correctly, SCSI devices need to be turned on before you boot the system, in order for the SCSI controller to detect it. Generally in Win 9x/ME you can turn any device on and go to device manager of system properties and click on refresh and the device will work. Remember with USB you can take your scanner anywhere and plug it into any modern machine - you'll probably need to install some drivers as well. The downside is speed and some USB devices don't like some USB controllers. My USB controller on a Via KT133 motherboard is a complete PITA. Steve
RE: filmscanners: which scanner for slides ? ( SCSI vs USB )
I dont think that will work, as many SCSI devices have to be seen by the SCSI BIOS on boot up. -- James Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jamesgrove.co.uk http://www.mountain-photos.co.uk ICQ 99737573 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ron Carlson Sent: 04 June 2001 06:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: which scanner for slides ? ( SCSI vs USB ) If you want to turn on your SCSI device after your computer is already booted, No problem. Just right click on MY COMPUTER, left click on properties,select DEVICE Manager tab and left click on REFRESH and then OK. This is for a windows machine. I don't know what you need to do for an Apple machine. Regards, Ron - Original Message - From: Steve Greenbank [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 5:08 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: which scanner for slides ? 3. Minolta may be USB, but USB devices has the advantage of being hot-swappable which means they can be turned on after the computer has been booted, and it will be detected. If I remember correctly, SCSI devices need to be turned on before you boot the system, in order for the SCSI controller to detect it. Generally in Win 9x/ME you can turn any device on and go to device manager of system properties and click on refresh and the device will work. Remember with USB you can take your scanner anywhere and plug it into any modern machine - you'll probably need to install some drivers as well. The downside is speed and some USB devices don't like some USB controllers. My USB controller on a Via KT133 motherboard is a complete PITA. Steve
Re: filmscanners: which scanner for slides ? ( SCSI vs USB )
In 01c0ecc2$a1908ef0$6401a8c0@jamesg, James Grove wrote: I dont think that will work, as many SCSI devices have to be seen by the SCSI BIOS on boot up. It certainly does *not* work on my Windows 98 machine - the SCSI devices all have to be on at boot-up. Brian Rumary, England http://freespace.virgin.net/brian.rumary/homepage.htm
Re: filmscanners: which scanner for slides ? ( SCSI vs USB )
Hot Swappable means only one thing: It can be plugged/un-plugged while the computer (and the cable connection) is in operation and active. Firewire (1394) and USB have that property. SCSI does not, although you can optain special connectors that allow hot-swappability at those connections, but you need to know what you are doing. On Apple Macs, you can turn on or off all SCSI (notice I didn't say unplug or plug) devices anytime. Harddrives (external) will need to be mounted if turned on after the computer is booted. Execute mounting software utility. Ditto for unmounting. Scanners however will become active on SCSI connections immediately without doing anything, even if not on initially when the computer boots. Auto recognition built in Apple OS without special drivers. Hot Swappability is only built into USB and 1394 IEEE standard, not SCSI, albiet the special purchase connectors that allow such connectors without high risk of frying your SCSI PCI board or your motherboard. Or, causing massive errors and crashing of your SCSI hardrives. Can't speak for ATA, EID drives, but generally speaking most parallel protocol communication technology can't be hot swapped. 1394 and USB are serial technology. If you want to turn on your SCSI device after your computer is already booted, No problem. Just right click on MY COMPUTER, left click on properties,select DEVICE Manager tab and left click on REFRESH and then OK. This is for a windows machine. I don't know what you need to do for an Apple machine. Regards, Ron - Original Message - From: Steve Greenbank [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 5:08 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: which scanner for slides ? 3. Minolta may be USB, but USB devices has the advantage of being hot-swappable which means they can be turned on after the computer has been booted, and it will be detected. If I remember correctly, SCSI devices need to be turned on before you boot the system, in order for the SCSI controller to detect it. Generally in Win 9x/ME you can turn any device on and go to device manager of system properties and click on refresh and the device will work. Remember with USB you can take your scanner anywhere and plug it into any modern machine - you'll probably need to install some drivers as well. The downside is speed and some USB devices don't like some USB controllers. My USB controller on a Via KT133 motherboard is a complete PITA. Steve
Re: filmscanners: which scanner for slides ? ( SCSI vs USB )
That works on mine. Geoff - Original Message - From: James Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 4:50 PM Subject: RE: filmscanners: which scanner for slides ? ( SCSI vs USB ) I dont think that will work, as many SCSI devices have to be seen by the SCSI BIOS on boot up. -- James Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jamesgrove.co.uk http://www.mountain-photos.co.uk ICQ 99737573 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ron Carlson Sent: 04 June 2001 06:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: which scanner for slides ? ( SCSI vs USB ) If you want to turn on your SCSI device after your computer is already booted, No problem. Just right click on MY COMPUTER, left click on properties,select DEVICE Manager tab and left click on REFRESH and then OK. This is for a windows machine. I don't know what you need to do for an Apple machine. Regards, Ron - Original Message - From: Steve Greenbank [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 5:08 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: which scanner for slides ? 3. Minolta may be USB, but USB devices has the advantage of being hot-swappable which means they can be turned on after the computer has been booted, and it will be detected. If I remember correctly, SCSI devices need to be turned on before you boot the system, in order for the SCSI controller to detect it. Generally in Win 9x/ME you can turn any device on and go to device manager of system properties and click on refresh and the device will work. Remember with USB you can take your scanner anywhere and plug it into any modern machine - you'll probably need to install some drivers as well. The downside is speed and some USB devices don't like some USB controllers. My USB controller on a Via KT133 motherboard is a complete PITA. Steve
Re: filmscanners: which scanner for slides ? ( SCSI vs USB )
James Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont think that will work, as many SCSI devices have to be seen by the SCSI BIOS on boot up. It works with my LS30 and the Scanjet IIIc. Scanners shouldn't be a problem. The most likely devices that would need to be seen at SCSI BIOS load would be hard drives. Someone else suggested selecting the SCSI card in the device list and then clicking refresh. This seems to be more specific and slightly quicker. You can get to the device list fastest by right-clicking on My Computer and selecting Properties. Rob
Re: filmscanners: which scanner for slides ? ( SCSI vs USB )
I dont think that will work, as many SCSI devices have to be seen by the SCSI BIOS on boot up. Have you tried it? I've been using that method for years. It works about 95% of the time.
Re: filmscanners: which scanner for slides ? ( SCSI vs USB )
Well it works without any problem for now one year on my W2k machine with sp2 installed... Jean-Pierre - Original Message - From: B.Rumary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 6:29 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: which scanner for slides ? ( SCSI vs USB ) In 01c0ecc2$a1908ef0$6401a8c0@jamesg, James Grove wrote: I dont think that will work, as many SCSI devices have to be seen by the SCSI BIOS on boot up. It certainly does *not* work on my Windows 98 machine - the SCSI devices all have to be on at boot-up. Brian Rumary, England http://freespace.virgin.net/brian.rumary/homepage.htm
Re: filmscanners: which scanner for slides ? ( SCSI vs USB )
This is strange, because mine works just fine without the BIOS/ Boot or fiddling around. What year-model machines are you guys usning? It shouldn't make any difference, given Win98, but it would look like it does. Mine's a '99 Dell with a very few updates, and spots any device as soon as the device is turned on or plugged in (USB only--don't try this with SCISI). Best regards--LRA --Original Message-- From: B.Rumary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 4, 2001 4:29:12 PM GMT Subject: Re: filmscanners: which scanner for slides ? ( SCSI vs USB ) In 01c0ecc2$a1908ef0$6401a8c0@jamesg, James Grove wrote: I dont think that will work, as many SCSI devices have to be seen by the SCSI BIOS on boot up. It certainly does *not* work on my Windows 98 machine - the SCSI devices all have to be on at boot-up. Brian Rumary, England http://freespace.virgin.net/brian.rumary/homepage.htm --- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com
Re: filmscanners: which scanner for slides ? ( SCSI vs USB )
I tried this today and it worked for me - I'm running Windows 98SE Maris - Original Message - From: B.Rumary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:29 AM Subject: Re: filmscanners: which scanner for slides ? ( SCSI vs USB ) | In 01c0ecc2$a1908ef0$6401a8c0@jamesg, James Grove wrote: | | I dont think that will work, as many SCSI devices have to be seen by the | SCSI BIOS on boot up. | | It certainly does *not* work on my Windows 98 machine - the SCSI devices | all have to be on at boot-up. | | Brian Rumary, England | | http://freespace.virgin.net/brian.rumary/homepage.htm | | |
Re: filmscanners: which scanner for slides ? ( SCSI vs USB )
It has always worked for me. I believe that the device manager refresh I suggested accomplishes what you suggest just as if the SCSI device was on at Windows Boot up. This is a proceedure that I nearly always use with my SS 4000. It has never failed. Try it. Regards, Ron - Original Message - From: James Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 11:50 PM Subject: RE: filmscanners: which scanner for slides ? ( SCSI vs USB ) I dont think that will work, as many SCSI devices have to be seen by the SCSI BIOS on boot up. -- James Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jamesgrove.co.uk http://www.mountain-photos.co.uk ICQ 99737573 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ron Carlson Sent: 04 June 2001 06:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: which scanner for slides ? ( SCSI vs USB ) If you want to turn on your SCSI device after your computer is already booted, No problem. Just right click on MY COMPUTER, left click on properties,select DEVICE Manager tab and left click on REFRESH and then OK. This is for a windows machine. I don't know what you need to do for an Apple machine. Regards, Ron - Original Message - From: Steve Greenbank [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 5:08 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: which scanner for slides ? 3. Minolta may be USB, but USB devices has the advantage of being hot-swappable which means they can be turned on after the computer has been booted, and it will be detected. If I remember correctly, SCSI devices need to be turned on before you boot the system, in order for the SCSI controller to detect it. Generally in Win 9x/ME you can turn any device on and go to device manager of system properties and click on refresh and the device will work. Remember with USB you can take your scanner anywhere and plug it into any modern machine - you'll probably need to install some drivers as well. The downside is speed and some USB devices don't like some USB controllers. My USB controller on a Via KT133 motherboard is a complete PITA. Steve
Re: filmscanners: which scanner for slides ? ( SCSI vs USB )
It works on my wife's Win 98 SE machine and her SCSI flat bed. Regards, Ron - Original Message - From: B.Rumary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:29 AM Subject: Re: filmscanners: which scanner for slides ? ( SCSI vs USB ) In 01c0ecc2$a1908ef0$6401a8c0@jamesg, James Grove wrote: I dont think that will work, as many SCSI devices have to be seen by the SCSI BIOS on boot up. It certainly does *not* work on my Windows 98 machine - the SCSI devices all have to be on at boot-up. Brian Rumary, England http://freespace.virgin.net/brian.rumary/homepage.htm
