Re: filmscanners: RE: OT UK Copyright Issues
France has such legislation, but not the UK. The only restrictions anyone can impose are if you are taking photographs on private property, in which case the owner of the property or his or her burly security guards (!) can complain. Shopping centres are a surprising example of this, the security personnel in such are of ten very anti-photography. That isn't a copyright issue though. Should you succeed in taking pictures of a building in such circumstances, there is nothing the owners can do subsequently, even if the picture makes you lots of money. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cooke, Julie) wrote: Does anyone know about UK copyright regarding buildings/land marks. I've heard that the Lloyds Building is copyrighted and you are not allowed to sell photographs of it. Although I've been unable to find any information which tells me this? I've also heard recently of a Formula One web site being sued for having photos of Formula One cars on it. The site is not commercial and was set up by someone who is a fan of racing. I've read the book Beyond The Lens, which has a chapter on copyright but where is the specific information about buildings/places that cannot be photographed? I'm sure the Formula One fan would not have set up his site if he had known. Julie
Re: filmscanners: RE: OT UK Copyright Issues
- Original Message - From: "Derek Clarke" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 3:46 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: RE: OT UK Copyright Issues France has such legislation, but not the UK. The only restrictions anyone can impose are if you are taking photographs Of topic Richard Corbett
Re: filmscanners: RE: OT UK Copyright Issues
On 23/3/01 7:17 pm, "Dicky" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: "Derek Clarke" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 3:46 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: RE: OT UK Copyright Issues France has such legislation, but not the UK. The only restrictions anyone can impose are if you are taking photographs Of topic Richard Corbett Off topic Dicky RW
filmscanners: RE: OT UK Copyright Issues
Does anyone know about UK copyright regarding buildings/land marks. I've heard that the Lloyds Building is copyrighted and you are not allowed to sell photographs of it. Although I've been unable to find any information which tells me this? I've also heard recently of a Formula One web site being sued for having photos of Formula One cars on it. The site is not commercial and was set up by someone who is a fan of racing. I've read the book Beyond The Lens, which has a chapter on copyright but where is the specific information about buildings/places that cannot be photographed? I'm sure the Formula One fan would not have set up his site if he had known. Julie -Original Message- From: Laurie Solomon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 5:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: filmscanners: Jay Maisel Interview with Pictures and Link... Is there any exact specification for copyright presentation? Yes, for legal purposes, I think there is both a proper form for the copyright notice, if it is used, for the contents of the notice, if it is used, and for the date that should be used. The date, I believe, is the date of registration of the copyright, if it is registered, or the date of publication, interpreted very broadly to include any public display of the image. However, as to the dates used on a copyright notice, the situation does get a little murky when there are transfers of the copyright from one party to another which might result in the use of the date of the transfer; but I am unclear on this. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Larry Berman Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 11:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: filmscanners: Jay Maisel Interview with Pictures and Link... The copyright that Jay Maisel requested was in his cover letter. We've all seen copyright stated in various ways. Sometimes with two years, the year of origin and year of publication. Sometimes just the year of publication. If you've seen older single year copyright, it has probably been that the images was published in that year. On the web it might mean that the site hasn't been updated. Is there any exact specification for copyright presentation? Larry Berry wrote: "If Jay Maisel has not shot film, except for one roll, during the past year, how is it that all of the images are copyright 2001, yet most are from film? I guess the copyright does not correspond to the date the image was shot?" I noticed that too. The copyright definitely does not correspond. Some of those images are 15+ years old. Cathy ::: Larry Berman Web Sites for Artists: http://BermanGraphics.com Compare Image Compression from the top Graphics Programs: http://ImageCompress.com Explore the Art Show Jury process from a web site: http://ArtShowJury.com :::
Re: filmscanners: RE: OT UK Copyright Issues
Julie... I am going to risk Dickie's wrath and reply... I don't know the anything about U.K. law... however, the distinction that needs to made here is the difference between copyright (which applies to an original work of art, literature, film, photos, etc) and the rights to use images of a physical object, person or place. Any person or place can be photographed, but that does not mean that you can use the image in any way you like, particularly for commercial gain... that's what model releases are for... However, there is a distinction made for uses that are considered editorial or news, and uses that are for commercial purposes (such as an ad). Many stock photogs have libraries of what they call editorial use only shots, which are photos witout a model release... The Loyds building and Formula One race cars would probably be fair game to use as editorial shots, but definitely off limits for advertising, post cards, etc. I have an idea the poor guy with FOne site was sandbagged by legal bullies who could have been held at bay by his own legal pit bull if he had the resouces to pay for it... He should have made it look like an on line magazine... he also may have been using other people's shots (which brings us back to copyright).. Anyway... enuf said on this OT thread... Mike M. "Cooke, Julie" wrote: Does anyone know about UK copyright regarding buildings/land marks. I've heard that the Lloyds Building is copyrighted and you are not allowed to sell photographs of it. Although I've been unable to find any information which tells me this? I've also heard recently of a Formula One web site being sued for having photos of Formula One cars on it. The site is not commercial and was set up by someone who is a fan of racing. I've read the book Beyond The Lens, which has a chapter on copyright but where is the specific information about buildings/places that cannot be photographed? I'm sure the Formula One fan would not have set up his site if he had known. Julie -Original Message- From: Laurie Solomon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 5:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: filmscanners: Jay Maisel Interview with Pictures and Link... Is there any exact specification for copyright presentation? Yes, for legal purposes, I think there is both a proper form for the copyright notice, if it is used, for the contents of the notice, if it is used, and for the date that should be used. The date, I believe, is the date of registration of the copyright, if it is registered, or the date of publication, interpreted very broadly to include any public display of the image. However, as to the dates used on a copyright notice, the situation does get a little murky when there are transfers of the copyright from one party to another which might result in the use of the date of the transfer; but I am unclear on this. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Larry Berman Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 11:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: filmscanners: Jay Maisel Interview with Pictures and Link... The copyright that Jay Maisel requested was in his cover letter. We've all seen copyright stated in various ways. Sometimes with two years, the year of origin and year of publication. Sometimes just the year of publication. If you've seen older single year copyright, it has probably been that the images was published in that year. On the web it might mean that the site hasn't been updated. Is there any exact specification for copyright presentation? Larry Berry wrote: "If Jay Maisel has not shot film, except for one roll, during the past year, how is it that all of the images are copyright 2001, yet most are from film? I guess the copyright does not correspond to the date the image was shot?" I noticed that too. The copyright definitely does not correspond. Some of those images are 15+ years old. Cathy ::: Larry Berman Web Sites for Artists: http://BermanGraphics.com Compare Image Compression from the top Graphics Programs: http://ImageCompress.com Explore the Art Show Jury process from a web site: http://ArtShowJury.com :::
Re: filmscanners: RE: OT UK Copyright Issues
- Original Message - From: "Cooke, Julie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 10:34 AM Subject: filmscanners: RE: OT UK Copyright Issues Julis my deargo fuck yourself, and do it quite speedly so that we can be rid of youand all like you. Richard - no time for twit's - Corbett
Re: filmscanners: RE: OT UK Copyright Issues for the moderator
Mr., Moderator, I think you should boot this guy from the group. He is rude, has NO ethics and a raciest to boot. Thank you Dale - Original Message - From: "Dicky" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 10:31 AM Subject: Re: filmscanners: RE: OT UK Copyright Issues - Original Message - From: "Cooke, Julie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 10:34 AM Subject: filmscanners: RE: OT UK Copyright Issues Julis my deargo fuck yourself, and do it quite speedly so that we can be rid of youand all like you. Richard - no time for twit's - Corbett
Re: filmscanners: RE: OT UK Copyright Issues for the moderator
I absolutely second the suggestion, this list can do without this person. Geoff Murray www.geoffmurray.com Mr., Moderator, I think you should boot this guy from the group. He is rude, has NO ethics and a raciest to boot. Thank you Dale - Original Message - From: "Dicky" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 10:31 AM Subject: Re: filmscanners: RE: OT UK Copyright Issues - Original Message - From: "Cooke, Julie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 10:34 AM Subject: filmscanners: RE: OT UK Copyright Issues Julis my deargo fuck yourself, and do it quite speedly so that we can be rid of youand all like you. Richard - no time for twit's - Corbett
Re: filmscanners: RE: OT UK Copyright Issues for the moderator
- Original Message - From: "Dale Gail" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] What you think is totally irrelevent. It's what you say that matters and so far I have heard noting from you on scanning so kindly keep your opinions on other subjects to yourself and by the way, you would hardly recognise a racist if one kicked you in the goolies. Richard Corbett
Re: filmscanners: RE: OT UK Copyright Issues for the moderator
I'll second that one. At 12:55 PM 03/22/2001 -0500, you wrote: Mr., Moderator, I think you should boot this guy from the group. He is rude, has NO ethics and a raciest to boot. Thank you Dale - Original Message - From: Dicky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 10:31 AM Subject: Re: filmscanners: RE: OT UK Copyright Issues - Original Message - From: Cooke, Julie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 10:34 AM Subject: filmscanners: RE: OT UK Copyright Issues Julis my deargo fuck yourself, and do it quite speedly so that we can be rid of youand all like you. Richard - no time for twit's - Corbett
Re: filmscanners: RE: OT UK Copyright Issues for the moderator
You must be all of 10 or mentally retarded. Dale - Original Message - From: "Dicky" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 4:59 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: RE: OT UK Copyright" Issues for the moderator" What you think is totally irrelevent. It's what you say that matters and so far I have heard noting from you on scanning so kindly keep your opinions on other subjects to yourself and by the way, you would hardly recognise a racist if one kicked you in the goolies. Richard Corbett
