Re: [Finale] Finale 2005 to 2004 backwards compatibility [WIN]
Richard Yates wrote: I just did this with a file that has many articulations and expressions. All appear on first perusal to be perfect. Trying this from 2004 to 2003 was problematic as layers were shifted up one number and so layer four was lost. 2005 to 2004 does not seem to have that problem. Using the described approach, I'd guess you might get many future troubles if your documents use tuplets or repeats. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] classical guitar mp3 from Finale
What a lovely, lovely arrangement. Thanks for sharing it Richard. RegardsJerry For those interested in soundfonts, classical guitar, and/or Finale playback possibilities, I have posted a file at: http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/QuietSong.mp3 (4.5MB) It is a new work by the Italian composer, Angelo Gilardino. All but the reverb was done in Finale2004. Richard Yates ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Maestro PS font
I see I made a mistake, where I said bitmap, I meant Printer. On 1/7/05 3:33 AM, Mike Cholewa [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith: The date of the new postscript fonts (Windows/Finwin2005) is 15-04-2004. Allen Fisher asked: Do you have both the Screen font and bitmap fonts installed? This is for mac. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of d. collins Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 8:16 AM To: finale@shsu.edu; finale@shsu.edu Subject: RE: [Finale] Maestro PS font Mike Cholewa écrit: You don't say which version of Finale use. MakeMusic has made new versions of the PS fonts in FinWin2005. These versions print fine both to pdf (Adobe Acrobat) and to eps (without font inclusion)! This works on WinXp. But to earlier versions of FinWin (prior 2005) the psfont/pdf/eps question was indeed problematic. Sorry. I'm still with Finale 2004. What's the date stamp on these new Maestro PS font files? Mine are rather old, it seems. You could try to reboot the computer after changing fonts (I have experienced font problems resolved after reboot). I've tried this, which is indeed often the solution to font problems. Thanks! Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Maestro PS font
Dennis, How are you installing the fonts? Simply running the install? On 1/7/05 1:18 AM, d. collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith: Allen Fisher asked: Do you have both the Screen font and bitmap fonts installed? I'm sorry, but I don't follow you here. I didn't know there were separate fonts (Win2K). How do I check and correct this if needed? On installation (of Finale), I don't recall being offered any such choices. Thanks, Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2005 to 2004 backwards compatibility [WIN]
I just did this with a file that has many articulations and expressions. All appear on first perusal to be perfect. Trying this from 2004 to 2003 was problematic as layers were shifted up one number and so layer four was lost. 2005 to 2004 does not seem to have that problem. Using the described approach, I'd guess you might get many future troubles if your documents use tuplets or repeats. Jari Williamsson The 2005 file that I opened in 2004 had no repeats but there is one triplet that survived unharmed. Richard Yates ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Maestro PS font
All, We have *not* released new fonts for Finale 2005. The fonts are the same as 2004. The creation date of some files reverts to the date installed (don't ask me why, because I don't know). Dennis-- I was just wondering if you were trying to copy the PS fonts directly to the fonts folder, post-install, as they sit in the PSFONTS folder after install. If they're sitting in the PSFonts folder, they should work just fine. Search your system for win.ini. Is there a section called SoftFonts in it? Allen On 1/7/05 8:45 AM, d. collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith: Allen Fisher écrit: How are you installing the fonts? Simply running the install? Yes, is there any other way? Or are they on the CD anywhere? Is there any possibility to download the latest versions of the fonts anywhere? I'm reluctant to uninstall Finale and install it again (and lose my registration). Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] classical guitar mp3 from Finale
The soundfont is one that I made myself using my Milburn guitar. The complete soundfont is about 24MB. I do not distribute the whole font, but the 'normal' sound (minus harmonics, tasto, ponticello, etc.) is available at: http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/Milburn-normal.SF2 (4.7MB) Richard Yates Thanks for posting this mp3. What soundfont were you using? It sounds amazingly close to my '75 Ricardo Sanchis. I enjoyed it thoroughly and would be very interested in obtaining this soundfont. Rick Neal Richard Yates wrote: For those interested in soundfonts, classical guitar, and/or Finale playback possibilities, I have posted a file at: http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/QuietSong.mp3 (4.5MB) It is a new work by the Italian composer, Angelo Gilardino. All but the reverb was done in Finale2004. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2005 to 2004 backwards compatibility [WIN]
Richard Yates a écrit : I just did this with a file that has many articulations and expressions. All appear on first perusal to be perfect. Trying this from 2004 to 2003 was problematic as layers were shifted up one number and so layer four was lost. 2005 to 2004 does not seem to have that problem. Using the described approach, I'd guess you might get many future troubles if your documents use tuplets or repeats. Jari Williamsson The 2005 file that I opened in 2004 had no repeats but there is one triplet that survived unharmed. Richard Yates I've try with a file with tuplets, sextolets and even septolets and first and second repeats and the result is exactly the same in fin 2004 and 2005. jPg ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Plu-gins or features
Thanks to Aaron for his succinct plug of Mass Copy. Along with TGTools Align/Move, Mass Copy is the plugin I use most often. Aaron correctly noted one advantage of Mass Copy over Finale's built-in Mass Edit function--the ability to copy from one source staff to an entire block of target staves in one pass. Another huge advantage, most particularly for hairpins, is Mass Copy not being barline-oriented. Mass Copy allows you to copy a hairpin from (e.g.) beats 1/2 in the source to beats 3/4 in the target. Recently I've been working on a piece in which a 7/8 pattern is overlaid repeatedly onto 4/4 time. There is a passage in which all the brass instruments have pf held notes each time. With Mass Copy, I was able to enter this in one instrument one time, then copy it in a single pass to all instruments both vertically and horizonatally repeated, even though the passage is not repetitive within any given 4/4 bar. SFAIK, such a copy operation is simply not possible using Finale Mass Edit. FWIW: Another feature of Mass Copy is that when it copies a note expression, the note expression retains the same vertical position in the target as the source. Finale's Mass Edit instead maintains the same relative distance from the note. While neither way is correct 100% time, Mass Copy's way is usually much closer. This feature is not so relevant starting with Fin04, unless you are using manually-positioned note exps. -Original Message- From: Aaron Sherber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 7, 2005 04:01 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Plu-gins or features At 10:24 PM 01/06/2005, Christopher Smith wrote: On Jan 6, 2005, at 10:08 PM, Stephen Onwood wrote: Why can't we apply hairpins to multiple staves simultaneously, or at least copy and paste them? 'Twould be nice! You can copy and paste them. Set Mass Edit to copy only Measure-attached smart shapes. Drag and drop at will. Better yet, check out Robert Patterson's plugin collection at http://robertgpatterson.com. His Mass Copy plugin makes the process of copying various articulations, smart shapes, expressions, etc. far easier in many ways. For starters, using Mass Edit you can only copy from a source staff to a single target staff at a time. With Robert's Mass Copy, you can copy from a source staff to a whole block of target staves in one pass. This is one of the plugins I use most often in my Finale work. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Plu-gins or features
What you are asking for--in theory--ought to be fairly simple. It's not that a plugin could re-use Finale's word-extension code. But the new word extensions (Fin04) are implemented as special smart shapes. A plugin should be able fairly easily to find every word-extension smart shape and add a slur smart shape on the same notes. However, sfaik no one has written such a plugin. It might be a good candidate for a newbie. -Original Message- From: Stephen Onwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 7, 2005 04:13 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Plu-gins or features Thanks, I'll check that out. What do you think of my suggestion re: melisma slurs? The code used to applies word extensions could, I presume, also apply slurs. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Maestro PS font
Maybe it is the same fontset, but when I open a postscript font file from FinWin2004 in Fontlab the Unicode encoding is different from a FinWin 2005 font file. It is most important that, unless you have Adobe Type Manager installed, the fonts should NOT go to the PSFONT folder but to the Windows font folder. Just install the font as any other (truetype) font. As far as I remember the FinWin2004 installer puts the fonts in the PSFONTS folder. This has been changed in FinWin2005. The postscript fonts now go to the Windows font folder as both Win2k and WinXP have native support for postscript fonts. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Fisher Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 4:12 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Maestro PS font All, We have *not* released new fonts for Finale 2005. The fonts are the same as 2004. The creation date of some files reverts to the date installed (don't ask me why, because I don't know). Dennis-- I was just wondering if you were trying to copy the PS fonts directly to the fonts folder, post-install, as they sit in the PSFONTS folder after install. If they're sitting in the PSFonts folder, they should work just fine. Search your system for win.ini. Is there a section called SoftFonts in it? Allen On 1/7/05 8:45 AM, d. collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith: Allen Fisher écrit: How are you installing the fonts? Simply running the install? Yes, is there any other way? Or are they on the CD anywhere? Is there any possibility to download the latest versions of the fonts anywhere? I'm reluctant to uninstall Finale and install it again (and lose my registration). Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] HP 5100/Ricoh 600n
on 5/28/04 10:43 AM, Bob Florence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all: Has anyone done a comparison between the above printers? Any help would be appreciated. Bob Florence Hi everyone, Bob asked about this back in May when I wasn't in a position to be really interested. My Apple LaserWriter Pro 600 has served me well for, I guess, 10 or 12 years anyway, but is no longer supported by Apple. The printer is still in good working order and I've been using it with system 10.3.7, but can only do so after choosing manual feed from the print dialog box for each file that I print. (Private posts on this problem are welcome, as I still hold out some hope for my previous good fortunes.) Anyway, I do eventually want to move to a printer that handles larger paper sizes, and am now interested in an answer to Bob's question, but I haven't been able to find any answers to his post in the archives (no search function, right?). I lieu of a comparison I'd be very interested in reports of how each of these printers are serving your various needs. Also, are there any other comparable (or reasonable) choices on the market for a laser printer handling larger paper sizes (at least 11x17)? Any knowledge of current good deals on these printers or the best place to be looking for one would be greatly appreciated. In advance, thanks much. Don Hart ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] HP 5100/Ricoh 600n
on 5/28/04 10:43 AM, Bob Florence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all: Has anyone done a comparison between the above printers? Any help would be appreciated. Bob Florence Hi everyone, Bob asked about this back in May when I wasn't in a position to be really interested. My Apple LaserWriter Pro 600 has served me well for, I guess, 10 or 12 years anyway, but is no longer supported by Apple. The printer is still in good working order and I've been using it with system 10.3.7, but can only do so after choosing manual feed from the print dialog box for each file that I print. (Private posts on this problem are welcome, as I still hold out some hope for my previous good fortunes.) Anyway, I do eventually want to move to a printer that handles larger paper sizes, and am now interested in an answer to Bob's question, but I haven't been able to find any answers to his post in the archives (no search function, right?). I lieu of a comparison I'd be very interested in reports of how each of these printers are serving your various needs. Also, are there any other comparable (or reasonable) choices on the market for a laser printer handling larger paper sizes (at least 11x17)? Any knowledge of current good deals on these printers or the best place to be looking for one would be greatly appreciated. In advance, thanks much. Don Hart Hi Don, I would definitely say that you want the 5100 over the Ricoh. But if you want to have the printer on your home/office network you'll want the 5100tn. If you want the model with the duplexer in addition to networking that model is the 5100dtn. I haven't shopped around for the 5100 printers but if you are willing to buy used, I can suggest the 5000n (the n is the one with the ethernet card already in it.) The 5000n is a great printer (it is the newer version of the 4MV) The company I am currently working for uses them on the scoring stage. Here is a link below where you can buy a used 5000n. I bought my 4MV from this company 4 years ago and it has worked perfectly. They buy off lease products with low mileage and refurb them. They will give you a 90 day parts and labor guarantee. If you go with this company, make sure that you ask her for a printer with a low page count and don't buy their recharged toner cartridge. It's best to buy factory toner cartridges new in my opinion. http://www.cheaphpprinters.com/item.jhtml?UCIDs=588560%7C1141320PRID=1289165 Best, Karen -- ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: OT: Who are you?
Dear list, I have been a long time lurker and have never contributed but this wonderful thread has prompted me to include my bio. It's been refreshing to read everyone talking about themselves without a lot of bravado. This list is a wealth of useful information and intelligent musical conversation. Thank You, I am 50 years old, married with two kids (ages 16 and 20) and living in Nashville, Tennessee. I have three music degrees from Michigan State University, including a Ph.D. in composition, and I also studied at California State University, Northridge. For ten years I was the assistant band director at Vanderbilt University until I retired due to disability (I have multiple sclerosis) in 1994. I have been a quadriplegic for 9 years. My professional music activities included teaching, composing (my passion), arranging, conducting, copying and studio work (saxophone) with various university marching bands, concert bands and big bands. I began using Finale 2.0 on a PC running Windows 3.1 and currently use FinWin 2004. I am able to use Finale to compose without the use of my hands by utilizing a mouthstick, the Windows accessibility software StickyKeys and MouseKeys and a one note at a time entry technique. All of the features of Finale are available to me although I'm very slow (nine months to complete my last commission for example) and the double click and drag necessary to draw smart shapes is difficult. I used to compose with a pencil at the piano. When I lost the use of my hands I thought my creative life was over but Finale has allowed me to keep my mind from turning to mush, not to mention a smile on my face. Joe Laird ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Re: OT: Who are you?
Wow! And then we dare complain because a certain action might take 4 clicks instead of two! Thanks Joe- and good luck- you can use it. Cheers Keith in OZ Keith Helgesen. Director of Music, Canberra City Band. Ph: (02) 62910787. Band Mob. 0436-620587 Private Mob 0417-042171 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Laird Sent: Saturday, 8 January 2005 7:45 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] Re: OT: Who are you? Dear list, I have been a long time lurker and have never contributed but this wonderful thread has prompted me to include my bio. It's been refreshing to read everyone talking about themselves without a lot of bravado. This list is a wealth of useful information and intelligent musical conversation. Thank You, I am 50 years old, married with two kids (ages 16 and 20) and living in Nashville, Tennessee. I have three music degrees from Michigan State University, including a Ph.D. in composition, and I also studied at California State University, Northridge. For ten years I was the assistant band director at Vanderbilt University until I retired due to disability (I have multiple sclerosis) in 1994. I have been a quadriplegic for 9 years. My professional music activities included teaching, composing (my passion), arranging, conducting, copying and studio work (saxophone) with various university marching bands, concert bands and big bands. I began using Finale 2.0 on a PC running Windows 3.1 and currently use FinWin 2004. I am able to use Finale to compose without the use of my hands by utilizing a mouthstick, the Windows accessibility software StickyKeys and MouseKeys and a one note at a time entry technique. All of the features of Finale are available to me although I'm very slow (nine months to complete my last commission for example) and the double click and drag necessary to draw smart shapes is difficult. I used to compose with a pencil at the piano. When I lost the use of my hands I thought my creative life was over but Finale has allowed me to keep my mind from turning to mush, not to mention a smile on my face. Joe Laird ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release Date: 3/01/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release Date: 3/01/2005 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] HP 5100/Ricoh 600n
Hi Don, I have a Ricoh AP2610 (with duplexer), the predecessor to the AP600N. I got a great deal on it and have no regrets -- at the time, I could not have afforded an HP 11x17 printer under any circumstances, and my Ricoh has generally gotten the job done. However, it has been somewhat buggy, in ways my HP printers never were. For instance: When I have been printing single-sided sheets for a while, then switch to double-sided jobs, the printer often hangs. The problem can be solved by simply opening and closing the lid on the duplex unit. Subsequent duplex jobs will then print fine. This is a minor annoyance for me, because the printer is set up right next to my workstation and I don't even have to get up from my chair to open the duplex lid, but this might be more of a problem if you printer is in another room, for instance. The paper size of the bypass tray must be set manually, on the printer itself. The HP printers I have had automatically set the size of the bypass tray to the size of paper selected in Page Setup. Ditto for the paper type. The Ricoh has settings for various types and thickness of paper, but I almost never use them because you are required to set the paper type both in Page Setup *and* on the printer itself, and if they don't match, the job will not proceed. Depending on the paper weight, the bypass tray often does not feed well when there are only a few sheets left in the bypass tray. The bypass tray is very finicky about thick paper (cardstock) that has already been printed on one side. (Of course, cardstock is too thick for the duplexer to handle.) The toner cartridges (the AP600N uses the same toner cartridge as the AP2610) are extremely expensive -- often $250 or more, although provantage.com has them for $198.62. They also tend to be poor quality, IMO. It can sometimes be very difficult to get toner evenly distributed across the page. WARNING: do NOT shake these cartridges. These are not the kind of of cartridges you can shake. If you get uneven toner, you have to VERY GENTLY AND SLOWLY rock the cartridge back and forth so that the toner becomes more evenly distributed. But if you shake them too hard, the ink will spatter all over and the toner cartridge will be permanently ruined. Also, it seems many Ricoh toner cartridges reach the end of their useful lives prematurely -- not because the toner has been all used up, but because the cartridge starts printing dark blotches on the page. It will do this even if you simply print a blank document and run blank paper through the printer. I have not found a solution to this problem, other than replacing the cartridge, and reserving the old one for printing drafts. Printing in Classic is somewhat buggy -- you have to use the Adobe PostScript driver instead of the Apple LaserWriter driver, and you still get an error message after each job telling you that the job could not print, even though it just printed. Printing in OS X used to be even more buggy, requiring that the USB cable be disconnected and reconnected between each job, but -- much to my relief -- this problem was corrected with one of the updates to OS X 10.3 -- I think it was 10.3.4 that fixed the problem? Anyway, printing in OS X over USB is just fine now. My model doesn't have a network card, but I would assume that Ethernet and WiFi printing work just fine (even in Classic), provided you have the hardware for it. The maximum paper size it handles is 12x17. Arrg! If only it supported just *one more lousy inch*, you could print 12x18 booklets. This isn't a bug -- the documentation is quite clear that 17 is the maximum supported length. I was just hoping that I might somehow be able to get away with using 12x18 paper, but unfortunately that turned out not to be the case. Just generally, it's clear that the machine is cheaply constructed. The paper tray is flimsy, the bypass tray is very sticky and difficult to pull down, etc. On the plus side, the print output of the Ricoh is very good (it is a PostScript printer) -- at least, when the toner cartridge is fresh. It's very fast as well. And the duplexer has been very reliable -- I think it's maybe jammed on me once in the past year (provided I don't use paper too heavy for it to handle), and maybe on one other occasion it has fed two pages through at once. It is also a very compact and attractive unit. However, the bottom line is that you get what you pay for. The Ricoh AP2610 was a fantastic deal -- I got my brand-new unit for $450 after the model was discontinued by Ricoh. (The duplexer was an extra $200.) The AP600N looks to be almost identical to the AP2610, except that it includes a much faster processor (this thing must just scream, the AP2610 is already impressively fast), more memory, USB 2.0, a built-in network card -- and, of course, it's much more expensive than its predecessor. Given that the
Re: [Finale] HP 5100/Ricoh 600n
I just went through the fun job of getting a new printer myself-- the HP5100dtn. I am *very* pleased with its quality. I am finding it slow, however, for my needs. I produce many booklets more than 50 pages long and it doesn't like to mopy them. I'll be upgrading the memory next week, which should help immensely. For 11x17 paper it's a real treat to have the duplexer and well worth the expense. *And* it can handle transparencies, card stock, and several other paper types automatically. This was important to me since I produce a variety of items on various media. The whole unit's a little noisier than I like, but this one's quiet compared to others I tested. The stapler is one feature I didn't get because it's only capable of cornering, as most do. I did *not* buy my unit from the following company, but I can tell you that they have an amazing warehouse full of units that have been refurbished, too. They're called G-Five, in Greenville SC (find them on the 'net). If you need someone who *does* understand the special needs of music printing then the man to call there is Bill Williamson. I looked at a refurbished Ricoh 600 with all the functions the new 5100dtn has and it was almost two thousand dollars more. I compared the HP with several other multifunctionals and for the money it is definitely my top choice. I use a parallel connection (cable not supplied), but it it's ethernet-ready out of the box, too (again, cable not supplied). A decent cable will run about fifty bucks. (Don't let the techies at Circuit City tell you you can't use parallel cables longer than 8 feet, and that they don't even make them anymore. Not true, and I got mine at Office Depot.) Another reason I chose the 5100 series is that the toner cartridges can be had for under a hundred dollars and last a long time. They say 10K copies, but I got 12.5K out of the first one, and most of that was on duplexed 11x17! Dunno if I've been helpful or not. I can say I don't think you'd be disappointed with buying the 5100. Cecil Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) www.harrockhall.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Don Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] HP 5100/Ricoh 600n on 5/28/04 10:43 AM, Bob Florence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all: Has anyone done a comparison between the above printers? Any help would be appreciated. Bob Florence Hi everyone, Bob asked about this back in May when I wasn't in a position to be really interested. My Apple LaserWriter Pro 600 has served me well for, I guess, 10 or 12 years anyway, but is no longer supported by Apple. The printer is still in good working order and I've been using it with system 10.3.7, but can only do so after choosing manual feed from the print dialog box for each file that I print. (Private posts on this problem are welcome, as I still hold out some hope for my previous good fortunes.) Anyway, I do eventually want to move to a printer that handles larger paper sizes, and am now interested in an answer to Bob's question, but I haven't been able to find any answers to his post in the archives (no search function, right?). I lieu of a comparison I'd be very interested in reports of how each of these printers are serving your various needs. Also, are there any other comparable (or reasonable) choices on the market for a laser printer handling larger paper sizes (at least 11x17)? Any knowledge of current good deals on these printers or the best place to be looking for one would be greatly appreciated. In advance, thanks much. Don Hart ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] HP 5100/Ricoh 600n
On 07 Jan 2005, at 06:40 PM, Cecil Rigby wrote: I looked at a refurbished Ricoh 600 with all the functions the new 5100dtn has and it was almost two thousand dollars more. WHAT??? That *can't* be right. Either it wasn't a Ricoh AP600N, or someone was trying to scam you. The Ricoh AP600N starts at $978. http://shopper.cnet.com/Ricoh_Aficio_AP600N_-_printer_-_BW_-_laser/ 4014-3155_9-30594783.html The duplexer for the Ricoh is $200, which brings the total price for a duplexing, networkable AP600 to $1178. http://shopper.cnet.com/DUPLEX_UNIT_AD410_FOR_AP2600_AP2600N/4014 -6513_9-6632163.html The HP LaserJet 5100DTN starts at $2259. http://shopper.cnet.com/HP_LaserJet_5100dtn/4014-3159_9-20286267.html There is just no way that a *refurbished* Ricoh AP600N could have cost *more* (let alone $2000 more!) than a brand-new HP 5100DTN unless someone was seriously scamming you. -- NB -- you can get an HP 5100 (*without* the network card and duplexer) for $1342. http://shopper.cnet.com/HP_LaserJet_5100/4014-3159_9-20286264.html And you can get the duplexer for $320: http://shopper.cnet.com/DUPLXUN_FOR_LASERJET_5100_SERIES/4014-6513_9 -20286269.html This brings the total price for a duplexing HP5100 to $1662 -- obviously *much* better than the $2259 for a 5100DTN (with the duplexer and network card built-in). True, for that price you don't get the network card, but Mac OS X 10.3's USB printer sharing is so good, you probably don't need a network card. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fw: Saving MIDI
Hi Richard, *How* did you figure it out? This still stymies me. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 06 Jan 2005, at 02:22 PM, Richard Yates wrote: Never mind! Figured it out. - Original Message - From: Richard Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:04 AM Subject: Saving MIDI I know this has come up before, but I do not remember a solution: In Finale2004 saving a MIDI file is not saving the tempos and human playback. I have defined two expressions at the beginning of the score to 'play tempo changes' and 'human playback on' but these seem to have no effect. Richard Yates ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fw: Saving MIDI
Hi Richard, *How* did you figure it out? This still stymies me. This was the second time that I figured out what I was doing wrong. The first time was a year ago but it did not stick! I was trying to open the MIDI file in SONAR3 but when I used 'Import MIDI' only the notes arrived. I realized that I had to use Open instead. Then things worked right including correct measures, patches and tempo changes. I put an expression at the start of the file that was defined to play tempo tool changes and one to start human playback. I don't know if these were necessary. It seems I had heard here that they were. Richard ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] HP 5100/Ricoh 600n
I bought a used HP 5siMX for a hundred quid with a quarter million copies logged. It's an A3 laser, w/duplexer, postscript, network built in. These things can do a couple of million copies so my 10,000/year shouldn't stress it! I maxed out the memory to 72mb for $30 + $5 shipping to the UK. When I press print they stream out one after the other even in A3 mixed EPS and hi-res photos from Adobe Indesign. I can't imagine paying for a new one, the printout is as good as my previous laser printer was on day one (an HP 6MP that the cat slept in quite often - only stopped using that as I needed A3 - it did 5 years faithful service and is in the attic just in case). I don't have experience of any lasers other than HP, but the two that I've owned are built like battleships, they just go on and on. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] HP 5100/Ricoh 600n
Oops! I was writing out of recall- I should've checked my notes... It was the Ricoh 2018D I was thinking of (Aficio line?) Cecil Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) www.harrockhall.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] HP 5100/Ricoh 600n On 07 Jan 2005, at 06:40 PM, Cecil Rigby wrote: I looked at a refurbished Ricoh 600 with all the functions the new 5100dtn has and it was almost two thousand dollars more. WHAT??? That *can't* be right. Either it wasn't a Ricoh AP600N, or someone was trying to scam you. The Ricoh AP600N starts at $978. http://shopper.cnet.com/Ricoh_Aficio_AP600N_-_printer_-_BW_-_laser/ 4014-3155_9-30594783.html The duplexer for the Ricoh is $200, which brings the total price for a duplexing, networkable AP600 to $1178. http://shopper.cnet.com/DUPLEX_UNIT_AD410_FOR_AP2600_AP2600N/4014 -6513_9-6632163.html The HP LaserJet 5100DTN starts at $2259. http://shopper.cnet.com/HP_LaserJet_5100dtn/4014-3159_9-20286267.html There is just no way that a *refurbished* Ricoh AP600N could have cost *more* (let alone $2000 more!) than a brand-new HP 5100DTN unless someone was seriously scamming you. -- NB -- you can get an HP 5100 (*without* the network card and duplexer) for $1342. http://shopper.cnet.com/HP_LaserJet_5100/4014-3159_9-20286264.html And you can get the duplexer for $320: http://shopper.cnet.com/DUPLXUN_FOR_LASERJET_5100_SERIES/4014-6513_9 -20286269.html This brings the total price for a duplexing HP5100 to $1662 -- obviously *much* better than the $2259 for a 5100DTN (with the duplexer and network card built-in). True, for that price you don't get the network card, but Mac OS X 10.3's USB printer sharing is so good, you probably don't need a network card. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] HP 5100/Ricoh 600n
On Jan 7, 2005, at 9:12 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: True, for that price you don't get the network card, but Mac OS X 10.3's USB printer sharing is so good, you probably don't need a network card. - Darcy Except that for printer sharing, the computer with the printer connected has to be turned on AND awake to be able to share it, a distinction I was unaware of when I thought that it might be a good idea for my place. My two computers are on two different floors in my home. Networked printers still work no matter what computer is on, off, or asleep. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
