Re: [Finale] Plug-ins and Vintage.
Isn't this just plain illegal? Since I assume you only once bought Finale full, and then bought upgrades, you still only have one serial number. Although you are obviously permitted to run as many different versions of Finale as you own, I doubt very much that you can give away an early version of Finale without a separate serial number. Johannes Andrew Stiller schrieb: On Jun 25, 2005, at 6:29 PM, keith helgesen wrote: I wonder who has the earliest version of Finale still in working order? I still have FinMac 2.6.3, but I'm trying to phase it out, because it won't print under OS9, and won't run at all in OSX. I recently received an order for my largest remaining 2.6.3 materials: a 400-page ballet score, plus parts and rehearsal piano reduction, and am therefore now engaged in updating all these files--a massive project I'd been dreading for years, but now find much less onerous than expected (fonts are the main problem). Once I've finished this, it may be the end of the line for 2.6.3 on my system. If so, I intend to ask if anyone on this list would have an antiquarian interest in the thing (I even have the original manuals!). Think about it. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] system nonsense
As long as I remember it was the shift key. That means at least some 3.x version. Johannes A-NO-NE Music schrieb: Don Hart / 2005/06/24 / 11:37 AM wrote: Hold the shift key (Mac) down and choose update layout from the edit menu. What?! Ever since version 1.0, it was Opt key, and then it was g, g, gone when I realized, and never thought it was moved to Shift key. I was scratching my head why, oh why that useful feature has been removed. Can't believe I didn't know this for this long. Now, why was it moved from Opt to Shift?! I am kind a upset right now. -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Plug-ins and Vintage.
dhbailey schrieb: Sharing it with another Finale user who ALSO has a legally purchased license wouldn't be illegal. That person has paid for and is legitimately allowed to use Finale, too. Perhaps I am counting fly legs here, but strictly speaking I do not believe this is true. The diskettes, as far as I remember, came with the serial number printed on them. Besides, if you bought Finale 97 I do not believe you are legally allowed to use Finale 2.63, although I doubt that anyone at MM would give a navel fluff about it. There are, however, some more implications about giving away diskettes and manuals in such a way. I don't know what the current situation is in this respect, but I believe Sibelius once offered a cross-grade to their software for a very much reduced price, where you had to send in the title page of your original Finale manual, or something along those lines. Get my point? Not that I really care about what Andrew does with his old manuals, I still have a 3.2 Finale manual on my shelve collecting dust, and was very close to throwing it away several times during my spring cleaning. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Plug-ins and Vintage.
At 11:15 AM 6/27/05 -0400, Andrew Stiller wrote: If one of the folks on this list, for example, were to take their original Finale 1.0 diskette, stick it in liquid nitrogen to preserve it, and later sell it to a museum, I would regard that as, quite literally, none of MakeMusic's business, regardless of what the law might say. If a (once again hypothetical) collector of antique software who had not previously owned any version of Finale, wanted to add my copy of FinMac 2.6.3 to their collection, I would donate it without a second's thought. I have no idea what the law says on these matters. The issue of preservation of older software, especially games, is a big deal now. The US Copyright Office recently had a call for comments on 'abandonware' and what it means and how the current law applies. The definition of 'abandonware' is also in flux. Mostly it means software where the copyright owner is gone or the software is no longer supported, and in order to preserve it, various extra-legal measures need to be taken (including reverse-engineering and breaking protection schemes). The comment period was also looking for ideas about abandoned texts, music, etc., where someone wishing to use the material had taken every reasonable (I think that was the word) path to find a long-lost individual or corporate owner. It's a concern, even if not yet in Finale's case. (Is my Windows 2.2 version still supported?) Anyway, see this for the incredible crisis-in-progress, only to be made worse by hardware and software that needs to be cracked to preserve: http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/05/07/issue/feature_memory.asp So look to the next few years for these issues to settle into a kind of common practice. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: Re: [Finale] Plug-ins and Vintage.
Unless it is explicitly permitted in the language of the legal mumbo-jumbo page that we all scroll past in the install process so that we can click on I Agree without reading, then you cannot. However, if my memory serves me correctly, the last time I installed Finale 2005 on my machine, I had 30 or 60 days to register or printing and save functions stopped working. Richard Bartkus From: Andrew Stiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/27 Mon AM 11:15:13 EDT To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Plug-ins and Vintage. On Jun 27, 2005, at 7:14 AM, dhbailey wrote: Johannes Gebauer wrote: Isn't this just plain illegal? Since I assume you only once bought Finale full, and then bought upgrades, you still only have one serial number. Although you are obviously permitted to run as many different versions of Finale as you own, I doubt very much that you can give away an early version of Finale without a separate serial number. Johannes Sharing it with another Finale user who ALSO has a legally purchased license wouldn't be illegal. That person has paid for and is legitimately allowed to use Finale, too. Besides, the offer was for someone who was interested in having the earlier version for historical interest. I doubt anybody on this list is actually interested in beginning to work with such an earlier version. But the legality of one licensed owner sharing the original disks from an earlier version with another licensed owner shouldn't be an issue. Now if Andrew were to give them to someone who isn't already a user, THAT would be illegal, but it's also something I'm sure Andrew wouldn't even consider doing. Boy do I have mixed feelings on this. First of all, for what it may be worth, way back when I upgraded from 2.0.1 to 2.5, I asked Coda whether I could give my copy of 2.0.1 to a charitable organization, and they said sure. However, regardless of that anecdote I must say that to me the (hypothetical) value of a piece of software as an antique is totally unrelated to its original value as a productive item. If one of the folks on this list, for example, were to take their original Finale 1.0 diskette, stick it in liquid nitrogen to preserve it, and later sell it to a museum, I would regard that as, quite literally, none of MakeMusic's business, regardless of what the law might say. If a (once again hypothetical) collector of antique software who had not previously owned any version of Finale, wanted to add my copy of FinMac 2.6.3 to their collection, I would donate it without a second's thought. I have no idea what the law says on these matters. Morally, I have no question on this issue at all. None. Now, if the gift shoppe at the Smithsonian Collection of Historical Software were to start selling decorative pages of Finale 1.0-generated music, with those quaint, arched slurs, that *might* be a different matter. Maybe. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale - Error occurred. ID = -12
On 27 Jun 2005 at 8:18, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:39:25 -0500, Robert Patterson wrote: Has anyone ever seen this error? I'm getting it when I try to open a file in Fin05b. My friend has sent both the .mus and the .etf, and both get the same error. I have seen that before. It's usually fixed when I get the sender to resend in a compressed file (.zip, .sit, etc.). Sometimes sending files naked through email can slightly corrupt them, but packaged in a compressed file they should be readily accessible once unzipped. Only a defective email client could corrupt an attached file. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Plug-ins and Vintage.
At 6/27/2005 11:28 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: The issue of preservation of older software, especially games, is a big deal now. The US Copyright Office recently had a call for comments on 'abandonware' and what it means and how the current law applies. The definition of 'abandonware' is also in flux. Mostly it means software where the copyright owner is gone or the software is no longer supported, and in order to preserve it, various extra-legal measures need to be taken (including reverse-engineering and breaking protection schemes). It's a concern, even if not yet in Finale's case. Why not? They most certainly do not support 1.0 anymore. (Is my Windows 2.2 version still supported?) Of course not. Windows 95 is no longer supported. Windows 98 might be not supported, either, but I am not sure about that. One thing to be said in Microsoft's favor is the new OSes, since I got Finale 3.7 on Win3.1, have all supported older programs. I have upgraded from Win 3.1 to Win95, Win98, Win98SE, Win98ME, Win2K and WinXP with SP1, SP2 and have had zero problems running Finale 3.7 I suspect it will stop working on Longhorn, but I already have a computer specifically set up with Win98 just to run my scanner, not a Microsoft problem, but a lack of driver problem directly attributable to the scanner manufacturer who decided not to make an NT driver. I'll just put Finale on this older computer. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale - Error occurred. ID = -12
At 6/27/2005 12:07 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 27 Jun 2005 at 8:18, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:39:25 -0500, Robert Patterson wrote: Has anyone ever seen this error? I'm getting it when I try to open a file in Fin05b. My friend has sent both the .mus and the .etf, and both get the same error. I have seen that before. It's usually fixed when I get the sender to resend in a compressed file (.zip, .sit, etc.). Sometimes sending files naked through email can slightly corrupt them, but packaged in a compressed file they should be readily accessible once unzipped. Only a defective email client could corrupt an attached file. I don't believe this is true. An ISP can corrupt a file, especially if they don't know what file type it is. AOL is infamous for this. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale - Error occurred. ID = -12
On Jun 27, 2005, at 12:07 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 27 Jun 2005 at 8:18, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:39:25 -0500, Robert Patterson wrote: Has anyone ever seen this error? I'm getting it when I try to open a file in Fin05b. My friend has sent both the .mus and the .etf, and both get the same error. I have seen that before. It's usually fixed when I get the sender to resend in a compressed file (.zip, .sit, etc.). Sometimes sending files naked through email can slightly corrupt them, but packaged in a compressed file they should be readily accessible once unzipped. Only a defective email client could corrupt an attached file. Like AOL. And I've seen it in other cases, too. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Plug-ins and Vintage.
Friends Regarding the antique software of which Andrew Stiller wrote, my informed lay opinion [NB: I am not an attorney of and do not play one on either the radio, or the internet] is that there are two overlapping concerns. With respect to the manuals and media upon which a version of Finale is supplied (and more recently, the manuals are contained on the same media as the software), in the U.S., these are the property of the purchaser who has unrestricted rights to them, including the right to dispose of them as he or she sees fit and proper. Separate from the ownership of the media, the software itself is a separate legal entity. While the purchaser has purchased the media (and manuals, in some cases), the purchaser has purchased only a license to use the software. The software itself remains the property of MakeMusic!, as successor and assignee of Finale and or Net4Music. While I may legally give or sell the media containing an early version of Finale to someone else, it remains MakeMusic!'s exclusive right to determine whether the someone else to whom I give it is entitled to use the software. At one point, I contemplated purchasing an earlier version of Finale than I acquired directly from Coda / Net4Music, and when I enquired about this, I was told that my serial number would be considered to be retroactive in that case. However, the person to whom I spoke at the time was unlikely to have been knowledgeable about the particulars of intellectual property law, so I consider that to be a personal opinion of one who happened to be an employee, and perhaps an accurate summary of the policy of the employer at that time, but not either a legal opinion, nor one which was binding upon the employer. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Plug-ins and Vintage.
I wonder what MM's policy is with regards to selling Finale Mac 2003? The web site says that they will sell Finale 2004 for the Mac on system 9, but everyone knows that it is unusable. Finale Mac 2003 in system 9 is still faster than the current versions and would therefore be fairly valuable. How old does the Finale version have to be before it is considered obsolete? -Randolph Peters ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: OT: OSX mass print to PDF
On 6/26/05, Simon Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not finding the commands to batch print to PDF in either FinaleScript *or* TGTools. How, exactly, is this accomplished? I have a completely different route. I use a quickeys macro to open every document sequentially and compile a postscript listing to a folder watched by distiller. [snip] Depends on whether you have Distiller as to whether this is any use to you. Unfortunately, I don't have Distiller, so I can't do either your method or print to the Adobe PDF print driver. I tried looking for a free alternative for a PDF print driver, but the only one I've seen is for System 7-OS9. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Life would be so much easier if only (3/2)^12=(2/1)^7. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Grokster decision
The Grokster decision today is probably of interest to most of us here, at least the US crowd: http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/pdf/ne/2005/grokster/04-480o.pdf Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: OT: OSX mass print to PDF
On Jun 27, 2005, at 1:50 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On 6/26/05, Simon Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not finding the commands to batch print to PDF in either FinaleScript *or* TGTools. How, exactly, is this accomplished? I have a completely different route. I use a quickeys macro to open every document sequentially and compile a postscript listing to a folder watched by distiller. [snip] Depends on whether you have Distiller as to whether this is any use to you. Unfortunately, I don't have Distiller, so I can't do either your method or print to the Adobe PDF print driver. I tried looking for a free alternative for a PDF print driver, but the only one I've seen is for System 7-OS9. Somebody (jef?) mentioned that you can set the default print dialogue in OSX to always print to PDF, as part of the settings. Where it says Copies and Pages in the print dialogue, select Output Options, click on Save To File. PDF is the default format, so all is well there. Where it says Presets, select Save, and save these settings as Standard (not Standard 1), which will overwrite the file already there (Don't worry, you can reverse all this in the same print dialogue after you have finished your batch PDF save) Now whenever you batch print (or print at all!) the default will be save to PDF. To reverse this, go to Copies and Pages again, unclick Save To File, and save under Presets as Standard again. Now your printing will be normal (to your printer) again. I haven't tested this, because I haven't learned to use FinaleScript, but perhaps you could try it out and report back? Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: OT: OSX mass print to PDF
I have recently discovered awonderful PDF maker for Windows available for a FREE download from http://daneprairie.com/download/download.htm It installs itself as a printer, so - when conversion to PDF is needed - one hits Print, choses it as the printer, and - voila! PDF file from Finale or any other program is ready. Dr.A.S.Weinstangel [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED], finale@shsu.eduTo: Simon Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED]CC: finale@shsu.eduSubject: Re: [Finale] Re: OT: OSX mass print to PDFDate: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:50:24 -0700On 6/26/05, Simon Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not finding the commands to batch print to PDF in either FinaleScript *or* TGTools. How, exactly, is this accomplished? I have a completely different route. I use a quickeys macro to open every document sequentially and compile a postscript listing to a folder watched by distiller.[snip] Depends on whether you have Distiller as to whether this is any use to you.Unfortunately, I don't have Distiller, so I can't do either yourmethod or print to the Adobe PDF print driver. I tried looking for afree alternative for a PDF print driver, but the only one I've seen isfor System 7-OS9.--Brad Beyenhof[EMAIL PROTECTED]my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.comLife would be so much easier if only (3/2)^12=(2/1)^7.___Finale mailing listFinale@shsu.eduhttp://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Using Automator to print PDF's
Neal G wrote: Just did a test of this using OS 10.4.1 and FinMac 2005b... My first experiment using Automator Created a Workflow for Finder consisting of 1. Get Specified Finder Items 2. Print Finder Items In the window for #1, I clicked on the + button, which called up a dialogue box to allow me to select files (dragging files also worked). When I clicked on Run I got a dialogue box asking to confirm the printer I wanted to use, then a normal print dialogue box. Ran it twice, once choosing Print, which quickly (and batch-ly) printed the docs I had requested, the other time choosing PDF, which quickly (and batch-ly) created .PDFs of the docs I had requested. Seems to work like a charm. Neal, you're a genius! :-) Fab! Note what else you can do: 1) Save the Automator Workflow as an application, then just drag your files onto the workflow icon. Then you can choose to print or save as PDF, and it will work for you, as Neal puts it, in a batch-ly manner. 2) Save as a Finder plug-in. Then select files in the Finder and right-click; the contextual menu will have an Automator item, within which will be your saved workflow. The Apple web site has a few more ideas, but these seem most apropos to our work with Finale. And, by the way, thanks to all for your help on parts with real and default rests. You d' men! (with pardons to our female contributors). Andrew Levin ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: OT: OSX mass print to PDF
On 27 Jun 2005, at 20:24, Christopher Smith wrote:Somebody (jef?) mentioned that you can set the default print dialogue in OSX to always print to PDF, as part of the settings. Where it says Copies and Pages in the print dialogue, select Output Options, click on Save To File. PDF is the default format, so all is well there. Where it says Presets, select Save, and save these settings as Standard (not Standard 1), which will overwrite the file already there (Don't worry, you can reverse all this in the same print dialogue after you have finished your batch PDF save)You don't need to do that, you can save the settings as PDF or whatever. Then when you want to batch print to PDF, do the first one manually, setting the PDF Preset. It will stay as that till you change it again.John___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Grokster decision
Here's some good commentary on the decision: http://yglesias.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/6/27/115956/954 - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 27 Jun 2005, at 2:06 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: The Grokster decision today is probably of interest to most of us here, at least the US crowd: http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/pdf/ne/2005/grokster/04-480o.pdf Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] RE: Finale 2006 - MakeMusic's response
I really hoped Finale would get professional again and fix the EPS support after about 10 years...:-( I ordered it believing this would happen, but I guess I will have to switch to Sibelius finally... (They got it to work, so they really must be the better programmers). Sh*t! I NEED EPS SUPPORT Kurt ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: OT: OSX mass print to PDF
On 6/27/05, Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 27, 2005, at 1:50 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On 6/26/05, Simon Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not finding the commands to batch print to PDF in either FinaleScript *or* TGTools. How, exactly, is this accomplished? I have a completely different route. I use a quickeys macro to open every document sequentially and compile a postscript listing to a folder watched by distiller. [snip] Depends on whether you have Distiller as to whether this is any use to you. Unfortunately, I don't have Distiller, so I can't do either your method or print to the Adobe PDF print driver. I tried looking for a free alternative for a PDF print driver, but the only one I've seen is for System 7-OS9. Somebody (jef?) mentioned that you can set the default print dialogue in OSX to always print to PDF, as part of the settings. He mentioned that because Distiller installs a separate print driver that outputs to PDF. His method requires setting this PDF Printer as the default, but I don't have a way to use that driver since I don't have Distiller. Where it says Copies and Pages in the print dialogue, select Output Options, click on Save To File. PDF is the default format, so all is well there. I tried using that; I created a PDF Printing preset. I then printed one document to PDF, so it was the default choice when I hit command-P again. However, using FinaleScript still prints through the Standard preset. Where it says Presets, select Save, and save these settings as Standard (not Standard 1), which will overwrite the file already there (Don't worry, you can reverse all this in the same print dialogue after you have finished your batch PDF save) Now whenever you batch print (or print at all!) the default will be save to PDF. That make plenty of sense, but I haven't been able to get that to work. The Print dialog won't let you name a new preset to the same name as an existing one; therefore you can't save a new preset named Standard. I couldn't rename the original Standard to attempt to create a new Standard, either. (OSX 10.3.9) -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Life would be so much easier if only (3/2)^12=(2/1)^7. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] graphic card upgrade (Mac)
Hi, I'm thinking of upgrading to an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro 128MB AGP graphic card. Having next to no experience in this field, I'd like to ask the mac gurus on this list if such an upgrade will improve finale's performance in any way. Present system is a G4 AGP graphics, upgraded with sonnet 1.7 GHz processor card, 1.25 GB RAM and 16 MB of VRAM (the Rage128Pro that came with the machine). OSX 10.3.9 and Finale 2005. This system runs OK for my needs (mostly), but, as you all know, the screen redraws are not exactly ultrafast! Will a faster graphic card be of any help in this respect? BTW, I'm not much of a gamer, so my only reason for upgrading would be to improve our beloved Finale's performance : ) Regards, /Hans -- Stockholm. Sweden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale - Error occurred. ID = -12
On 27 Jun 2005 at 12:50, Phil Daley wrote: At 6/27/2005 12:07 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 27 Jun 2005 at 8:18, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:39:25 -0500, Robert Patterson wrote: Has anyone ever seen this error? I'm getting it when I try to open a file in Fin05b. My friend has sent both the .mus and the .etf, and both get the same error. I have seen that before. It's usually fixed when I get the sender to resend in a compressed file (.zip, .sit, etc.). Sometimes sending files naked through email can slightly corrupt them, but packaged in a compressed file they should be readily accessible once unzipped. Only a defective email client could corrupt an attached file. I don't believe this is true. An ISP can corrupt a file, especially if they don't know what file type it is. AOL is infamous for this. I've never heard of such a thing. Yes, AOL can misidentify the encoding standard, or improperly encode the text boundaries, or improperly describe the content type of the attachment. But those are all problems that happen in the AOL email client, so far as I'm aware. If their email servers are looking inside the email message envelope and rewriting content, then they have really defective email servers, since that breaks all the rules about how email is supposed to be handled. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale - Error occurred. ID = -12
David W. Fenton / 2005/06/27 / 06:59 PM wrote: I've never heard of such a thing. Ur... Resource Folk, in case of legacy Mac file format. It will be stripped out via mail server. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale - Error occurred. ID = -12
On 27 Jun 2005 at 19:24, A-NO-NE Music wrote: David W. Fenton / 2005/06/27 / 06:59 PM wrote: I've never heard of such a thing. Ur... Resource Folk, in case of legacy Mac file format. It will be stripped out via mail server. How so? If it's part of the encapsulated email message, it should remain untouched by a mail server. Perhaps it's the originating email client that's not properly encoding the resource fork? -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] graphic card upgrade (Mac)
Hi Hans, The graphic card will probably not noticeably affect Finale 2k5's redraw speed, although it will make many of OS X's various bells and whistles run more smoothly (especially if you upgrade to 10.4 Tiger). It would probably also help the response time when cycling *between* windows (as the open documents are cached on the graphics card), but as soon as something in one of those open windows changes, the redraw is handled by the CPU, not the graphics card. However, apparently redraw has been revamped somewhat in Fin2k6. So it's possible that the new version will include graphics card-assisted redraws. You might consider emailing Coda and asking them about this. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 27 Jun 2005, at 6:05 PM, Hans Arktoft wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of upgrading to an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro 128MB AGP graphic card. Having next to no experience in this field, I'd like to ask the mac gurus on this list if such an upgrade will improve finale's performance in any way. Present system is a G4 AGP graphics, upgraded with sonnet 1.7 GHz processor card, 1.25 GB RAM and 16 MB of VRAM (the Rage128Pro that came with the machine). OSX 10.3.9 and Finale 2005. This system runs OK for my needs (mostly), but, as you all know, the screen redraws are not exactly ultrafast! Will a faster graphic card be of any help in this respect? BTW, I'm not much of a gamer, so my only reason for upgrading would be to improve our beloved Finale's performance : ) Regards, /Hans -- Stockholm. Sweden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Plug-ins.
On Jun 25, 2005, at 10:10 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote: I know I am in the minority here, but I confess I prefer Finale's default beaming to that produced by Patterson Beams. I felt that way about Patterson Beams when I first tried it, but a client cared about that white wedges stuff, so I started using PB. Once I figured out what it was doing, I tweaked the settings to come up with a result that I do like better than Finale's default, and now I use that all the time. I think if you're discussing the results produced by Patterson Beams, you can't separate that from what settings you use. I don't even remember what the original defaults were, but I do remember that whatever the numbers were when I first loaded it, they frequently made, on a large interval, a steep-angled beam that I found really ugly. Once I adjusted the number that addresses that -- I don't even remember what it was -- I was happy. Now I almost never need to tweak a beam, whereas without PB I did from time to time. But I still don't care about white wedges. As for automatic features, I don't like *any* of them: they don't allow for the engraver's judgement, and they form a constant risk of undoing, e.g., one's carefully customized note spacing. I completely agree about that. I think engravers who are detail-oriented enough to customize their spacing all feel the same, but I think most Finale users don't much care about spacing, so long as it's halfway decent. I feel similarly about automatic corrections and formatting on MS Word. mdl ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
