Re: [Finale] Re: PDFs for publication from a printer's perspective
On 12.10.2008 Claudio Pompili wrote: eg for Macs they recommend sending a postscript file and they then do all the requisite distilling Well, yes, but that's because their own PDF software, UQ PDF doesn't work on the latest Mac System. I don't think this is particularly helpful to anyone not sending stuff to the University of Queens, since they request any PDF to be sent through this proprietary software, which probably deals with all their settings. They will not allow any other PDFs either. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Sibelius to Finale 2007
I am working on a project with several composers and one of them has offered me his Sibelius files. As I have no interest in using Sibelius I can not recall the name of the plug-in (?) you can use to open Sibelius file into Finale. All I remember is it starts with an R and has something to do with XML. Help, please! Cortez ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Sibelius to Finale 2007
I believe it's a plug-in from Recordare: http://store.recordare.com/software.html Phong --- On Sun, 10/12/08, Jón Kristinn Cortez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jón Kristinn Cortez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Finale] Sibelius to Finale 2007 To: Finale@shsu.edu Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 3:19 PM I am working on a project with several composers and one of them has offered me his Sibelius files. As I have no interest in using Sibelius I can not recall the name of the plug-in (?) you can use to open Sibelius file into Finale. All I remember is it starts with an R and has something to do with XML. Help, please! Cortez ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Sibelius to Finale 2007
On 12.10.2008, at 15:01, Phong Duong wrote: I believe it's a plug-in from Recordare: http://store.recordare.com/software.html Phong --- On Sun, 10/12/08, Jón Kristinn Cortez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jón Kristinn Cortez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Finale] Sibelius to Finale 2007 To: Finale@shsu.edu Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 3:19 PM I am working on a project with several composers and one of them has offered me his Sibelius files. As I have no interest in using Sibelius I can not recall the name of the plug-in (?) you can use to open Sibelius file into Finale. All I remember is it starts with an R and has something to do with XML. Help, please! Cortez ___ Thank you! Cortez ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Sibelius to Finale 2007
Yes, Music XML from Recordare. But Finale (depending on the version, I suppose) already has a 'Lite' version built in to import other files. I'm not sure Sibelius has an export version, although it also has some kind of 'Lite' version. I believe it is not a plugin, but is a separate program, but I couldn't define the difference so don't ask!!! John At 8:01 AM -0700 10/12/08, Phong Duong wrote: I believe it's a plug-in from Recordare: http://store.recordare.com/software.html Phong --- On Sun, 10/12/08, Jón Kristinn Cortez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jón Kristinn Cortez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Finale] Sibelius to Finale 2007 To: Finale@shsu.edu Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 3:19 PM I am working on a project with several composers and one of them has offered me his Sibelius files. As I have no interest in using Sibelius I can not recall the name of the plug-in (?) you can use to open Sibelius file into Finale. All I remember is it starts with an R and has something to do with XML. Help, please! Cortez ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music College of Liberal Arts Human Sciences Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html We never play anything the same way once. Shelly Manne's definition of jazz musicians. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Human Playback problem
Dana, I would suggest going to a less sophisticated app than KONTAKT 3. I believe you'd have more succuess with a GARRITAN set of instruments. You don't say what flavor FINALE either. If 2009, the ARIA playback may serve as well as all the bells and whistles of KTKT 3;-) Skip Howey From: Dana Friedman @ Dragonfly Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 11:37 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] Human Playback problem Hi folks: I'm at my wits' end with Human Playback. I have legato violins going up and down in an slow 8th note whole step pattern. I've set various types of human playback, and put a phrase/slur/legato marking above the phrases, but they still play back as if there was no phrase marking above it. What can one do? (Using the Kontakt 3 library if that's any help.). ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Staff style gone in part
All, a quick one. In the part I have choosen slash notation for the most of the bass. When I go to the part, the slashes are gone and the rests are back. When select the staff tool, right click the blue line above the staff, then in the score it says on the first line Edit staff style 01. Slash notation which is fine. But when I go the part and do the same, I see Edit staff style ... and selecting that shows that the part has not got any staff style at all although there is still this blue line there showing that a staff style has actively been selected. Why don't the slash notation style follow to the part? Anyone? Thanks /D ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Avoiding long parts (e. g. for rhythm section)
Hi folks, When arranging for big band, there might be for instance three separate long choruses which essentially repeats in piano and guitar since the rely on the same chord pattern even though the horns have three totally different designed choruses. In the score, pi/gui are repeated for easy score reading, and it is of course easy to achieve this with copy/paste tools. But the parts get of course very long, and especially in the piano part where I have suggested voicings for both hands. For the horns this is rarely a problem since multimeasure rests shorten the parts. Anyone having any good advice on how to shorten e. g. a piano part with these characteristics? I am not even sure how I want it to look...so first I might need some advice what is typical and then what Finale can do in this area. But essentially I guess I could use some method like giving information to the pianist in letters G, H, I that chords and voicing suggestions are as in C, D, E. Now pianoplayers might not have a big problem with turning pages, however drummers certainly do not like to have parts with more than 2 or max 3 pages - fully understandable. So also here I hope there is some standard for how to say that B is latin 16 bars and no cues, C is latin 24 bars and no cues etc. I know that this is fairly general question. But I hope there is some article or similar about this that someone can point out...? Thanks /D ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Sibelius to Finale 2007
Sibelius does not export MusicXML out-of-the-box. If you want to import Sib files into Finale, you need to purchase the full version of MusicXML. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On Oct 12, 2008, at 11:41 AM, John Howell wrote: Yes, Music XML from Recordare. But Finale (depending on the version, I suppose) already has a 'Lite' version built in to import other files. I'm not sure Sibelius has an export version, although it also has some kind of 'Lite' version. I believe it is not a plugin, but is a separate program, but I couldn't define the difference so don't ask!!! John At 8:01 AM -0700 10/12/08, Phong Duong wrote: I believe it's a plug-in from Recordare: http://store.recordare.com/software.html Phong --- On Sun, 10/12/08, Jón Kristinn Cortez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jón Kristinn Cortez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Finale] Sibelius to Finale 2007 To: Finale@shsu.edu Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 3:19 PM I am working on a project with several composers and one of them has offered me his Sibelius files. As I have no interest in using Sibelius I can not recall the name of the plug-in (?) you can use to open Sibelius file into Finale. All I remember is it starts with an R and has something to do with XML. Help, please! Cortez ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music College of Liberal Arts Human Sciences Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html We never play anything the same way once. Shelly Manne's definition of jazz musicians. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Human Playback problem
At 03:50 PM 10/12/2008, you wrote: Dana, I would suggest going to a less sophisticated app than KONTAKT 3. I believe you'd have more succuess with a GARRITAN set of instruments rantI bought the Garritan Big Band. To say they're a disappointment is truly an understatement. The saxes sound like they came out of a 1980s Casio. Someone told me that..I should get an application (Kore?) to modify the patches. sighThat doesn't sound like the right answer. That same person also told me (about the Garritan big band) was that the drum kits were really good. If that's so, I wonder why Garritan doesn't sell just the drum kits, and not purport to have an entire big band until they have a good one. I can't see how Garritan is worth trusting with an entire orchestra if they put out a lousy big band. (These patches, when applied to a reasonably good chart, sound like a middle-school Jazz Band) . /rant By comparison.the Kontakt 3 patches are GREAT!...Human Playback is only worthwhile if the instrument samples/sounds are worth using. :). . You don't say what flavor FINALE either. If 2009 'tis 2009, indeed. :) , the ARIA playback may serve as well as all the bells and whistles of KTKT 3;-) rant They make all that very confusing, by the way. They sell you Aria with Finale 2009, so that you can use the Garritan sounds that are built into Finale...Then they sell you Kontakt 2 when you buy the Garritan Big Band. Also, by the way, you can't use Kontakt 2 sounds with a Kontakt 3 player. How dumb is that? No backward compatibility is understandable. No forward compatibility just sounds like bad business. Imagine not being able to open your Finale 2004 documents in Finale 2009?/rant So far, the Kontakt 3 sounds are the best I've got. If anyone wants to buy a Garritan Big Band from me (after my great commercial for it, I know), I'm open to offers, and will gladly transfer the license, and of course, uninstall it from my own computer. Best, Dana ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Staff style gone in part
Why don't the slash notation style follow to the part? Anyone? What version of Finale is this? Best, Dana ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Avoiding long parts (e. g. for rhythm section)
Dan Tillberg wrote: Hi folks, When arranging for big band, there might be for instance three separate long choruses which essentially repeats in piano and guitar since the rely on the same chord pattern even though the horns have three totally different designed choruses. In the score, pi/gui are repeated for easy score reading, and it is of course easy to achieve this with copy/paste tools. But the parts get of course very long, and especially in the piano part where I have suggested voicings for both hands. For the horns this is rarely a problem since multimeasure rests shorten the parts. Anyone having any good advice on how to shorten e. g. a piano part with these characteristics? I am not even sure how I want it to look...so first I might need some advice what is typical and then what Finale can do in this area. But essentially I guess I could use some method like giving information to the pianist in letters G, H, I that chords and voicing suggestions are as in C, D, E. Now pianoplayers might not have a big problem with turning pages, however drummers certainly do not like to have parts with more than 2 or max 3 pages - fully understandable. So also here I hope there is some standard for how to say that B is latin 16 bars and no cues, C is latin 24 bars and no cues etc. I know that this is fairly general question. But I hope there is some article or similar about this that someone can point out...? Thanks /D This isn't something you can handle by using repeats and/or DS markings? I often have pieces given to me to copy/engrave that have open solo sections with different background parts, and I generally handle them by just having repeats around them, and over the affected parts putting specific instructions. As an example, I might have a section that repeats three times, and will put 3X at the beginning of all the repeats, BG 2d X on the sax parts, and BG 3d X on the brass section parts, leaving the rhythm section only one repeat. For the drums (where the kicks follow the backgrounds) I might put the 2d repeat on the top line and the 3d repeat on the bottom line, with appropriate notes in the drum part. But if I have a section that repeats pretty much note-for-note, a DS might work. That said, there are always Bob Florence and Rob McConnell parts, which can be up to 8 or 9 pages in the horns, and longer in the rhythm section. Then you just suffer and cross your fingers, and write the parts so that page turns are as efficient and logical as possible. Good luck! cd ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Brain freeze
I haven't studied music seriously in many many years and my memory is terrible. I am writing program notes for a piece I wrote years ago and it has a 12 bar melody that repeats over and over again behind other musical lines. I can't think of what that is called. Help. Thanks. Jane ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Brain freeze
Passcaglia perhaps? On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Jane Frasier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't studied music seriously in many many years and my memory is terrible. I am writing program notes for a piece I wrote years ago and it has a 12 bar melody that repeats over and over again behind other musical lines. I can't think of what that is called. Help. Thanks. Jane ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: PDFs for publication from a printer's perspective
Johannes Gebauer wrote: Well, yes, but that's because their own PDF software, UQ PDF doesn't work on the latest Mac System. I don't think this is particularly helpful to anyone not sending stuff to the University of Queens, since they request any PDF to be sent through this proprietary software, which probably deals with all their settings. They will not allow any other PDFs either. to clarify, I'm not suggesting anyone should send their stuff to UQ Printery. I found their suggestions very helpful, that's all. Yes, they provide the UQ PDF software (Adobe) as a 'one stop shop' front end for clients (PC/Macs including LaTex users etc) who don't want to mess around with Acrobat settings. However, IMHO their info does spell out some handy tips and background (eg the FAQ on PCL and postscript stuff). In my case, my inquiry to the Printery was greeted by a very knowledgeable tech support who provided an FTP space for uploads. The uploaded ps file was distilled at their end. I then downloaded the resultant pdf and checked at my end that all fonts had been properly distilled and compressed graphics were OK etc. Also the advice and settings especially the handling of line art/text and graphics (when requesting a pdf from a publisher at http://www.printery.bs.uq.edu.au/theses/theses_advice.htm) I found particularly useful. -- cheers, Claudio Claudio Pompili composer, sound designer, music consultant http://www.claudiopompili.net.au/ (**2002-2003 Golden Web Award**) Skype: claudiop_509 Australian Music Centre http://www.amcoz.com.au; http://www.amcoz.com.au/composers/composer.asp?id=236 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Brain freeze
Ground bass? ostinato? 2008/10/12 Eric Dannewitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Passcaglia perhaps? On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Jane Frasier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't studied music seriously in many many years and my memory is terrible. I am writing program notes for a piece I wrote years ago and it has a 12 bar melody that repeats over and over again behind other musical lines. I can't think of what that is called. Help. Thanks. Jane ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Brain freeze
Jane: Do you actually mean a 12-bar melody, or a 12-bar harmonic pattern? If the latter, you're probably taking about a 12-bar blues. Both ground bass and passacaglia (and chacone, for that matter) are repeated basses, not melodies, and the invented melodies over them were a favorite in 17th century music, especially in the 2-treble-parts pieces of Monteverdi and Purcell. John At 5:20 PM -0400 10/12/08, Adam Golding wrote: Ground bass? ostinato? 2008/10/12 Eric Dannewitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Passcaglia perhaps? On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Jane Frasier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't studied music seriously in many many years and my memory is terrible. I am writing program notes for a piece I wrote years ago and it has a 12 bar melody that repeats over and over again behind other musical lines. I can't think of what that is called. Help. Thanks. Jane ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music College of Liberal Arts Human Sciences Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html We never play anything the same way once. Shelly Manne's definition of jazz musicians. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Brain freeze
A Bass can be a melody..and it is behind. On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 2:27 PM, John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jane: Do you actually mean a 12-bar melody, or a 12-bar harmonic pattern? If the latter, you're probably taking about a 12-bar blues. Both ground bass and passacaglia (and chacone, for that matter) are repeated basses, not melodies, and the invented melodies over them were a favorite in 17th century music, especially in the 2-treble-parts pieces of Monteverdi and Purcell. John At 5:20 PM -0400 10/12/08, Adam Golding wrote: Ground bass? ostinato? 2008/10/12 Eric Dannewitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Passcaglia perhaps? On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Jane Frasier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't studied music seriously in many many years and my memory is terrible. I am writing program notes for a piece I wrote years ago and it has a 12 bar melody that repeats over and over again behind other musical lines. I can't think of what that is called. Help. Thanks. Jane ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music College of Liberal Arts Human Sciences Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html We never play anything the same way once. Shelly Manne's definition of jazz musicians. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Avoiding long parts (e. g. for rhythm section)
- Original Message - From: Dan Tillberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008 16:00 Subject: [Finale] Avoiding long parts (e. g. for rhythm section) To: finale@shsu.edu Hi folks, When arranging for big band, there might be for instance three separatelong choruses which essentially repeats in piano and guitar since the rely on the same chord pattern even though the horns have three totally different designed choruses. In the score, pi/gui are repeated for easy score reading, and it is of course easy to achieve this with copy/pastetools. But the parts get of course very long, and especially in the piano part where I have suggested voicings for both hands. For the horns this is rarely a problem since multimeasure rests shorten the parts. Anyone having any good advice on how to shorten e. g. a piano part with these characteristics? I am not even sure how I want it to look...so first I might need some advice what is typical and then what Finale can do in this area. But essentially I guess I could use some method like giving information to the pianist in letters G, H, I that chords and voicing suggestions are as in C, D, E. If you absolutely need the suggested piano voicings for all choruses (I would imagine this is an educational chart?) then there is no recourse. You would have to preserve all repeats (or lack thereof) in all parts IDENTICALLY, or risk a rehearsal nightmare. It is essential to have ALL parts and the score with identical form and bar numbers. If you can remove the suggested voicings for later choruses, then maybe just sections with chord symbols can be compressed somewhat (six or even eight measures per system rather than four) to save some space. Now pianoplayers might not have a big problem with turning pages, however drummers certainly do not like to have parts with more than 2 or max 3 pages - fully understandable. So also here I hope there is some standardfor how to say that B is latin 16 bars and no cues, C is latin 24 bars and no cues etc. For drum parts with no cues, you can leave the part blank and let a multimeasure rest be created in the part. Edit the rest to substitute another symbol (like a wavy line) that doesn't mean a multimeasure rest, and add the text Play time 16 bars or something like that. I personally don't like this method because if the drummer wants to add any information to the part at all, he doesn't have a measure to attach it to. Sometimes I ask the drummer in bar 8, can you catch the sax figure? and he writes it in. He can't do it in this case. I find that I can often compress drum parts that are only slashes quite a bit. Eight bars per system is quite doable and readable if there are not too many cues to complicate things. Also, if there is not a lot going on, the drummer can still ride with one hand and turn the page with the other, which puts him ahead of the bassist! I know that this is fairly general question. But I hope there is some article or similar about this that someone can point out...? I wrote a handout for my students that pretty much just elaborates what I said above. I will send it to you if you want. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Brain freeze
Blues? Adam Golding wrote: Ground bass? ostinato? 2008/10/12 Eric Dannewitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Passcaglia perhaps? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Fin08 changes
I finally graduated to using Fin08 for all my new work, and I am now greatly missing the old Mass Mover metatools. Is there any way to assign metatools to transpositions and also to viewing elapsed time? -- Robert Patterson http://RobertGPatterson.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Brain freeze
Ostinato is the word I was trying to think of. Thanks so much. Jane Adam Golding wrote: Ground bass? ostinato? 2008/10/12 Eric Dannewitz [1][EMAIL PROTECTED] Passcaglia perhaps? On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Jane Frasier [2][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't studied music seriously in many many years and my memory is terrible. I am writing program notes for a piece I wrote years ago and it has a 12 bar melody that repeats over and over again behind other musical lines. I can't think of what that is called. Help. Thanks. Jane ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] [4]http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] [6]http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] [8]http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale References 1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3. mailto:Finale@shsu.edu 4. http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale 5. mailto:Finale@shsu.edu 6. http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale 7. mailto:Finale@shsu.edu 8. http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fin08 changes
mine still work from a migrated template. i don't remember having to reprogramme them. hm, so i can't tell you how to do that, only that it should be possible. I finally graduated to using Fin08 for all my new work, and I am now greatly missing the old Mass Mover metatools. Is there any way to assign metatools to transpositions and also to viewing elapsed time? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Brain freeze
Are you thinking chaconne or passacaglia? Christopher - Original Message - From: Jane Frasier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008 17:10 Subject: [Finale] Brain freeze To: finale@shsu.edu I haven't studied music seriously in many many years and my memory is terrible. I am writing program notes for a piece I wrote years ago and it has a 12 bar melody that repeats over and over again behind other musical lines. I can't think of what that is called. Help. Thanks. Jane ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Staff style gone in part
This is a problem in all versions of Finale with linked parts. The solution is to be in the part view with the Staff Tool selected, then go to the Staff menu and select Reset Staff Styles To Score. I have to do this with depressing regularity, especially if I have ever copied or erased Staff Styles while in the score. You also have to repeat this action with every part that contains Staff Styles. You can have Staff Styles that are different between parts and score. If you change or enter a Staff Style while in the score, the part is SUPPOSED to inherit it automatically, but if it doesn't then you effect the repair I mentioned. If you change a Staff Style while in the Part, then it only appears in the part and not in the score. I haven't had any trouble with this one so far. Best Christopher - Original Message - From: Dan Tillberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008 15:55 Subject: [Finale] Staff style gone in part To: finale@shsu.edu All, a quick one. In the part I have choosen slash notation for the most of the bass. When I go to the part, the slashes are gone and the rests are back. When select the staff tool, right click the blue line above the staff, then in the score it says on the first line Edit staff style 01. Slash notation which is fine. But when I go the part and do the same, I see Edit staff style ... and selecting that shows that the part has not got any staff style at all although there is still this blue line there showing that a staff style has actively been selected. Why don't the slash notation style follow to the part? Anyone? Thanks /D ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Brain freeze
At 2:36 PM -0700 10/12/08, Eric Dannewitz wrote: A Bass can be a melody..and it is behind. Of course it can, but in the case of either a passacaglia or chaconne it is not, it is a ground, in much the same way that an isorhythmic tenor COULD be called a melody, but as it was used int he 14th century it was not THE melody. I don't understand the behind comment. John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music College of Liberal Arts Human Sciences Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html We never play anything the same way once. Shelly Manne's definition of jazz musicians. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Brain freeze
Behind was a strange for me to us. I just meant that while the ostinato is sounding other melodies are heard. John Howell wrote: At 2:36 PM -0700 10/12/08, Eric Dannewitz wrote: A Bass can be a melody..and it is behind. Of course it can, but in the case of either a passacaglia or chaconne it is not, it is a ground, in much the same way that an isorhythmic tenor COULD be called a melody, but as it was used int he 14th century it was not THE melody. I don't understand the behind comment. John ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Brain freeze
I think that ostinato is the word I was looking for. Thanks. Jane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you thinking chaconne or passacaglia? Christopher - Original Message - From: Jane Frasier [2][EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008 17:10 Subject: [Finale] Brain freeze To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't studied music seriously in many many years and my memory is terrible. I am writing program notes for a piece I wrote years ago and it has a 12 bar melody that repeats over and over again behind other musical lines. I can't think of what that is called. Help. Thanks. Jane ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] [5]http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] [7]http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale References 1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3. mailto:finale@shsu.edu 4. mailto:Finale@shsu.edu 5. http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale 6. mailto:Finale@shsu.edu 7. http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fin08 changes
At 05:46 PM 10/12/2008, Robert Patterson wrote: I finally graduated to using Fin08 for all my new work, and I am now greatly missing the old Mass Mover metatools. Is there any way to assign metatools to transpositions and also to viewing elapsed time? Look in the help file, encyclopedia section, under metatools. The old mass mover metatools are now Ctrl+number. The transposition metatools are programmed with Ctrl+Shift+number. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Transposing from percussion clef
Hi folks: In FinMac '09, I've assigned a drum patch to the drum kit staff. I'm trying to get particular phrases on particular drums. The new patch I'm using requires placement a third below where it is now. I used the selection tool, transposed down a third, and it didn't move. I tried diatonic, I tried chromatic. I even tried changing clefs (which shouldn't have to have been the answer anyway). Zip. Nada..Gournisht. The noteheads stay where they were originally placed. The part (for what this is worth) is in 3 layers. A stems up layer, a stems down layer, and a tutti phrases layer (during which everything else is made invisible, or the staff style changes. I did a Show Active Layer Only, and tried transposing just that. I tried transposing the whole part...I tried using the - key in Speedy Note Entry, and the darned thing still wouldn't move. So far, the only way I've gotten the pitch to change is to go to Speedy Note Entry, delete the note, and re-enter it. Can anyone help? :) Thanks! Dana ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Brain freeze
I haven't studied music seriously in many many years and my memory is terrible. I am writing program notes for a piece I wrote years ago and it has a 12 bar melody that repeats over and over again behind other musical lines. I It is vague, so, it could have been a passacaglia... On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 2:49 PM, John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 2:36 PM -0700 10/12/08, Eric Dannewitz wrote: A Bass can be a melody..and it is behind. Of course it can, but in the case of either a passacaglia or chaconne it is not, it is a ground, in much the same way that an isorhythmic tenor COULD be called a melody, but as it was used int he 14th century it was not THE melody. I don't understand the behind comment. John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music College of Liberal Arts Human Sciences Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html We never play anything the same way once. Shelly Manne's definition of jazz musicians. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Transposing from percussion clef
At 07:48 PM 10/12/2008, Dana Friedman @ Dragonfly Technologies wrote: trying to get particular phrases on particular drums. The new patch I'm using requires placement a third below where it is now. I used the selection tool, transposed down a third, and it didn't move. I tried diatonic, I tried chromatic. I even tried changing clefs (which shouldn't have to have been the answer anyway). Zip. Nada..Gournisht. The noteheads stay where they were originally placed. This can all get a little complicated because of percussion maps. For example, if you like the way the part looks but you just want to change the MIDI pitch each note emits, you can get this by editing the percussion map you're using. (Staff tool, double-click the staff handle, click the Select button next to Notation Style, and then Edit the percussion map. Change the playback note for each item you want to change.) On the other hand, if you think your problems would be solved if you could actually just move all the notes down a third, then there's something else you can try. Select the Staff Tool, double-click the staff handle, and set Notation Style to Standard. Then transpose the section, and go back and set Notation Style to Percussion again. Hopefully, things will line up the way you want with your percussion map. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
