Re: [Finale] Clef problem
Fake it. Rewrite the notes in an extra layer in the treble clef so they look as they would in bass clef. Of course it won't play back correctly, but it's easy enough to get it looking right on the page Michael Long-time lurker here. I have some piano music which has an octave in the bass which is tied over several bars and held with pedal. Easy enough - however, during these bars the bass clef is changed to the treble and the left- and right- hands play around a bit until the left-hand returns to the bass clef - the tied octaves are just repeated every bar underneath. I can't work out how to change the clef without the held notes plummeting down as if they were in the treble clef. All suggestions gladly received. Thanks in advance Frank Oh ... using WinFin 2009 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Clef problem
On Dec 17, 2008, at 6:45 AM, dhbailey wrote: Frank Prain wrote: That's it - octave low Ds held with the pedal, and the left-hand moves to the treble clef. It's some late romantic piano music I'm transcribing, just for my own sake ... for practice as much as anything. Most things I've been able to solve, but this one has me stumped. Does playback matter? If not, simply transpose those notes which are too low when it switches to treble clef so that they remain on the same line/space as when in bass clef. Visually it's easy to do. To incorporate proper playback, I think you might need to add another staff (which you will eventually optimize): (in page view) 1) add new staff, set clef to bass clef, set it not to show clef, key signature, time signature 2) enter the proper notes for the sustained octave Ds 3) on those measures where there is a problem, drag that staff up so that it overlays the current left-hand staff exactly. Do this in a larger view percentage. 4) optimize the score so that the new staff will disappear on all systems except the one(s) where the octave Ds are required. Actually, you could put the wrong note that shows in its own layer which you mute, and add the right note in a hidden layer that plays back, so you wouldn't need extra staves in this particular case. But your solution is very creative! Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Clef problem
Many more sophisticated folks on this list than me, but just in case, would it possibly be appropriate to simply have both hands in two parts in the treble clef for a few bars? Left hand part stems down, right hand up. You see that sort of thing all the time, but maybe you are implying something more involved than I can picture. Stu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 424 PCI card in Mac with Finale - compatibility?
I'm using whatever drivers came with the 2408mkIII. I use DP6. Is the compatability issue with leopard only or is tiger involved too? dual powermac G5 2.7ghz Mac OS 10.4.11 -Mark --- On Tue, 12/16/08, Dick Hauser rdhau...@comcast.net wrote: From: Dick Hauser rdhau...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Finale] 424 PCI card in Mac with Finale - compatibility? To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 6:55 PM On Dec 16, 2008, at 1:32 PM, Mark McCarron wrote: I use a MOTU 2408mkIII with a 424pci card. I've never had compatability issues with any and all versions of Finale. Mac OS 10.4.11 Right, it's a mystery to me also. As I said, I wasn't able to pin it down. Just for chuckles, what are the specs of your computer? Are you using the MOTU audio driver? Dick H ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Clef problem
Frank Prain wrote: Long-time lurker here. I have some piano music which has an octave in the bass which is tied over several bars and held with pedal. Easy enough - however, during these bars the bass clef is changed to the treble and the left- and right-hands play around a bit until the left-hand returns to the bass clef - the tied octaves are just repeated every bar underneath. I can't work out how to change the clef without the held notes plummeting down as if they were in the treble clef. All suggestions gladly received. Thanks in advance Frank Oh ... using WinFin 2009 I don't understand -- are the tied pitches remaining on the same line/space while the notes above them change clefs? On the same staff? -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 424 PCI card in Mac with Finale - compatibility?
Yes, FN08 was instaled under Tiger and also after an upgrade to Leopard. If you care to, Go to /System/Library/Extensions/ and highlight MOTUPCIAudio.kext the version on my PPC is 1.2.2. I'd be interested to see that yours is the same. Dick H On Dec 17, 2008, at 10:34 AM, Mark McCarron wrote: I'm using whatever drivers came with the 2408mkIII. I use DP6. Is the compatability issue with leopard only or is tiger involved too? dual powermac G5 2.7ghz Mac OS 10.4.11 -Mark --- On Tue, 12/16/08, Dick Hauser rdhau...@comcast.net wrote: From: Dick Hauser rdhau...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Finale] 424 PCI card in Mac with Finale - compatibility? To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 6:55 PM On Dec 16, 2008, at 1:32 PM, Mark McCarron wrote: I use a MOTU 2408mkIII with a 424pci card. I've never had compatability issues with any and all versions of Finale. Mac OS 10.4.11 Right, it's a mystery to me also. As I said, I wasn't able to pin it down. Just for chuckles, what are the specs of your computer? Are you using the MOTU audio driver? Dick H ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Clef problem
That's it - octave low Ds held with the pedal, and the left-hand moves to the treble clef. It's some late romantic piano music I'm transcribing, just for my own sake ... for practice as much as anything. Most things I've been able to solve, but this one has me stumped. 2008/12/17 dhbailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com Frank Prain wrote: Long-time lurker here. I have some piano music which has an octave in the bass which is tied over several bars and held with pedal. Easy enough - however, during these bars the bass clef is changed to the treble and the left- and right-hands play around a bit until the left-hand returns to the bass clef - the tied octaves are just repeated every bar underneath. I can't work out how to change the clef without the held notes plummeting down as if they were in the treble clef. All suggestions gladly received. Thanks in advance Frank Oh ... using WinFin 2009 I don't understand -- are the tied pitches remaining on the same line/space while the notes above them change clefs? On the same staff? -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Clef problem
Frank Prain wrote: That's it - octave low Ds held with the pedal, and the left-hand moves to the treble clef. It's some late romantic piano music I'm transcribing, just for my own sake ... for practice as much as anything. Most things I've been able to solve, but this one has me stumped. Does playback matter? If not, simply transpose those notes which are too low when it switches to treble clef so that they remain on the same line/space as when in bass clef. Visually it's easy to do. To incorporate proper playback, I think you might need to add another staff (which you will eventually optimize): (in page view) 1) add new staff, set clef to bass clef, set it not to show clef, key signature, time signature 2) enter the proper notes for the sustained octave Ds 3) on those measures where there is a problem, drag that staff up so that it overlays the current left-hand staff exactly. Do this in a larger view percentage. 4) optimize the score so that the new staff will disappear on all systems except the one(s) where the octave Ds are required. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 424 PCI card in Mac with Finale - compatibility?
yes, mine is the same 1.1.2. I've never installed Leopard. Mark McCarron --- On Wed, 12/17/08, Dick Hauser rdhau...@comcast.net wrote: From: Dick Hauser rdhau...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Finale] 424 PCI card in Mac with Finale - compatibility? To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 3:20 PM Yes, FN08 was instaled under Tiger and also after an upgrade to Leopard. If you care to, Go to /System/Library/Extensions/ and highlight MOTUPCIAudio.kext the version on my PPC is 1.2.2. I'd be interested to see that yours is the same. Dick H On Dec 17, 2008, at 10:34 AM, Mark McCarron wrote: I'm using whatever drivers came with the 2408mkIII. I use DP6. Is the compatability issue with leopard only or is tiger involved too? dual powermac G5 2.7ghz Mac OS 10.4.11 -Mark --- On Tue, 12/16/08, Dick Hauser rdhau...@comcast.net wrote: From: Dick Hauser rdhau...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Finale] 424 PCI card in Mac with Finale - compatibility? To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 6:55 PM On Dec 16, 2008, at 1:32 PM, Mark McCarron wrote: I use a MOTU 2408mkIII with a 424pci card. I've never had compatability issues with any and all versions of Finale. Mac OS 10.4.11 Right, it's a mystery to me also. As I said, I wasn't able to pin it down. Just for chuckles, what are the specs of your computer? Are you using the MOTU audio driver? Dick H ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 424 PCI card in Mac with Finale - compatibility?
Thank you, Mark for checking. Guess that's not the smoking gun. Dick H On Dec 17, 2008, at 7:18 PM, Mark McCarron wrote: yes, mine is the same 1.1.2. I've never installed Leopard. Mark McCarron --- On Wed, 12/17/08, Dick Hauser rdhau...@comcast.net wrote: From: Dick Hauser rdhau...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Finale] 424 PCI card in Mac with Finale - compatibility? To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 3:20 PM Yes, FN08 was instaled under Tiger and also after an upgrade to Leopard. If you care to, Go to /System/Library/Extensions/ and highlight MOTUPCIAudio.kext the version on my PPC is 1.2.2. I'd be interested to see that yours is the same. Dick H On Dec 17, 2008, at 10:34 AM, Mark McCarron wrote: I'm using whatever drivers came with the 2408mkIII. I use DP6. Is the compatability issue with leopard only or is tiger involved too? dual powermac G5 2.7ghz Mac OS 10.4.11 -Mark --- On Tue, 12/16/08, Dick Hauser rdhau...@comcast.net wrote: From: Dick Hauser rdhau...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Finale] 424 PCI card in Mac with Finale - compatibility? To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 6:55 PM On Dec 16, 2008, at 1:32 PM, Mark McCarron wrote: I use a MOTU 2408mkIII with a 424pci card. I've never had compatability issues with any and all versions of Finale. Mac OS 10.4.11 Right, it's a mystery to me also. As I said, I wasn't able to pin it down. Just for chuckles, what are the specs of your computer? Are you using the MOTU audio driver? Dick H ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
