Re: [Finale] Cakewalk info
At 2/9/2009 04:45 PM, dhbailey wrote: Cakewalk is a sequencer program -- it's like a digital tape recorder so you can attach the keyboard to your computer via midi cables or a USB cable if one came with the keyboard and set Cakewalk to record and it will record all the midi data. It has a rudimentary notation module. Once the data is in Cakewalk, you can edit it, quantize it, massage it in lots of ways and end up with a very nice performance which can then be sent back to your keyboard like a player piano. You can also use Cakewalk to record audio and then edit that also, combining it with midi data if you wish. Should you install it? it won't hurt to install it and play around with it, but as to whether it's a should or not, that's up to you. You can find out more at www.cakewalk.com -- Sonar is their flagship product, much like Finale is to PrintMusic. Cakewalk these days is more like PrintMusic, a smaller product with fewer capabilities.. On the web site, they talk about Sonar Producer and Sonar Studio. What I have is Sonar LE, it must be old or a light edition? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Cakewalk info
Yes, LE means Light Edition, a version that often is packed with keyboards, audiocards and so on. It should have lesser options than the full version Phil Daley ha scritto: At 2/9/2009 04:45 PM, dhbailey wrote: Cakewalk is a sequencer program -- it's like a digital tape recorder so you can attach the keyboard to your computer via midi cables or a USB cable if one came with the keyboard and set Cakewalk to record and it will record all the midi data. It has a rudimentary notation module. Once the data is in Cakewalk, you can edit it, quantize it, massage it in lots of ways and end up with a very nice performance which can then be sent back to your keyboard like a player piano. You can also use Cakewalk to record audio and then edit that also, combining it with midi data if you wish. Should you install it? it won't hurt to install it and play around with it, but as to whether it's a should or not, that's up to you. You can find out more at www.cakewalk.com -- Sonar is their flagship product, much like Finale is to PrintMusic. Cakewalk these days is more like PrintMusic, a smaller product with fewer capabilities.. On the web site, they talk about Sonar Producer and Sonar Studio. What I have is Sonar LE, it must be old or a light edition? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] TAN: Getting 150dpi grayscale scans into good black and white
Does someone know how to easily and cheaply convert 150dpi greyscale scans of music (old prints and manuscripts) into something that prints really well on a black and white laser? Johannes ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Splash screen
Is there a way to suppress it at startup? Barbara ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Bounding box too large
Christopher Smith wrote: I sincerely hope that there IS a way to find it, but I gave up on the shape designer several versions ago as being hopelessly buggy. Have you tried tech support? It would be good to document this. I've submitted this question to tech support. I'll let you know what they say. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Transposition problem
Oboe doubling flute an octave below. Only first flute plays, second flute has a measure rest with a fermata. I copy the flute material to the oboe, transpose the material down an octave. The rest in layer 2 also gets transposed down!!! It should stay in place!!! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Swing and Weight
David, the topic was groove and swing. Both different from weight. You should be more clear from where *you* were taught. Swing and groove incorporate velocity, tempo, position within meter. You took it upon yourself to disagree. By the way you can drop the attitude. Earl ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1218550342x1201216770/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport. com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=febemailfooterNO62) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Keeping dotted notes...
dc wrote: I'm trying to convert a piece from 6/1 to 3/1 by dividing each measure in two. So I change the time sig and rebar the music. But all the dotted double whole notes (breves) get changed to two tied notes. How can I avoid this, or how can I change them back to dotted notes? In the quantization settings, click the More Options button, and then be sure to check the Soften Syncopations and it should take care of this issue. However, if it is already checked, uncheck it because I honestly can't remember which setting actually solves this problem. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Keeping dotted notes...
In Finwin 2006 I can't re-create this - the dotted breves stay as dotted breves. Is this another 2009 improvement? Cheers, Lawrence Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Keeping dotted notes...
I just tried this in FinWin2007 and the 6/1 bar split without any problem: see http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/6-1%20to%203-1.gif . Is your signature really 6/1 and not something odd behind the scenes like 3 over double-wholes? -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of dc Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 10:50 AM To: finale-shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] Keeping dotted notes... I'm trying to convert a piece from 6/1 to 3/1 by dividing each measure in two. So I change the time sig and rebar the music. But all the dotted double whole notes (breves) get changed to two tied notes. How can I avoid this, or how can I change them back to dotted notes? Thanks, Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Splash screen
Nope. On Feb 10, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Barbara Touburg wrote: Is there a way to suppress it at startup? Barbara ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Allen Fisher Founder and Principal Developer Fisher Art and Technology al...@fisherartandtech.com i...@fisherartandtech.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Keeping dotted notes...
The quantization setting you need is allow dotted rests in compound meters. If this setting is checked, the dotted breves will stay dotted breves. (Yes, I know that 3/1 isn't a compound meter, and that the problem affects notes as well as rests. Go figure. Tell MakeMusic about it: it's time they sorted this one out) Michael On 10 Feb 2009, at 19:50, dc wrote: I'm trying to convert a piece from 6/1 to 3/1 by dividing each measure in two. So I change the time sig and rebar the music. But all the dotted double whole notes (breves) get changed to two tied notes. How can I avoid this, or how can I change them back to dotted notes? Thanks, Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Keeping dotted notes...
I haven't got allow dotted rests checked but the dotted breves were still retained. Anyway, at least you found a solution. Still puzzling though. Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Keeping dotted notes...
Same here. I haven't got allow dotted rests checked but the dotted breves were still retained. Anyway, at least you found a solution. Still puzzling though. Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Splash screen
Allen Fisher wrote: Nope. O. Hm. Too bad. A feature request them: an option so surpress it. That wouldn't be so difficult to implement, I think? On Feb 10, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Barbara Touburg wrote: Is there a way to suppress it at startup? Barbara ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Splash screen
Barbara Touburg wrote: Allen Fisher wrote: Nope. O. Hm. Too bad. A feature request them: an option so surpress it. That wouldn't be so difficult to implement, I think? On Feb 10, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Barbara Touburg wrote: Is there a way to suppress it at startup? Barbara ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale That splash screen is usually there while the program spends its time loading itself into memory and call all DLLs and other things it needs to do. So you can look at the splash screen and know that Finale is actually loading, or you can look at your desktop and wonder why nothing seems to be happening. At least that's what's happened with other programs I've used which allow the user to turn off the splash screen -- I just look at the desktop for longer before the program actually starts. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Splash screen
dhbailey wrote: At least that's what's happened with other programs I've used which allow the user to turn off the splash screen -- I just look at the desktop for longer before the program actually starts. I usually look at my monitor! :) (Don't like Window$ that much) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Splash screen
At 12:44 AM +0100 2/11/09, Barbara Touburg wrote: dhbailey wrote: At least that's what's happened with other programs I've used which allow the user to turn off the splash screen -- I just look at the desktop for longer before the program actually starts. I usually look at my monitor! :) (Don't like Window$ that much) If I remember correctly, the desktop concept or analogy (which is clearly what David meant) was original with Apple, and was stolen by Microsoft, which unaccountably won the subsequent lawsuit. So by the time Windoze came along that was all ancient history. John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music College of Liberal Arts Human Sciences Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html We never play anything the same way once. Shelly Manne's definition of jazz musicians. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Swing and Weight
On 10 Feb 2009 at 13:44, earlrs...@aol.com wrote: David, the topic was groove and swing. Not groove -- I don't believe that term has been used in this discussion until you just introduced it. I certainly haven't been discussing that term at all. And when Johannes used swing I believe he put it in quotes, just as I did. I didn't take Johannes to be referring to actual swing (i.e., inegale, whether with non-equal rhythmic values or non-equal weights), but to a more metaphorical meaning, of performing that has a certain feel to it. It's what I call getting the music off the page. Both different from weight. You should be more clear from where *you* were taught. If someone could be more clear, it would be you, as I haven't clue what the previous sentence means. Swing and groove incorporate velocity, tempo, position within meter. You took it upon yourself to disagree. Where did I disagree with that? I don't recall anyone ever offering a comprehensive definition of swing (or groove, for that matter). Maybe I missed those posts. And I certainly never disagreed with the definition that you offer above, not having had any opportunity to respond to it at all (since no such definition has been posted in this thread). By the way you can drop the attitude. I responded to very clear attitude from you. I have no interest whatsoever in continuing any discussion with you on this topic or any other. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Splash screen
Is there a particular reason that you want to disable it? On Feb 10, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Barbara Touburg wrote: dhbailey wrote: At least that's what's happened with other programs I've used which allow the user to turn off the splash screen -- I just look at the desktop for longer before the program actually starts. I usually look at my monitor! :) (Don't like Window$ that much) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Allen Fisher Founder and Principal Developer Fisher Art and Technology al...@fisherartandtech.com i...@fisherartandtech.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Swing after 1900
i am constantly reminded on this thread, of the Duke Ellington song it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swingswing can mean so many things in the musical genremy own learning being that swing involves anticipation of the beat...or slightly out of beat(tune)grin On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:04:27 -0800, David W. Fenton lists.fin...@dfenton.com wrote: On 9 Feb 2009 at 17:46, earlrs...@aol.com wrote: Mr Fenton... that's a HUGE statement for so little backup Whether or not it was intended by the original practicioners and your support for it where you grew up.. if you have read ANY of the Wagner literature and heard ANY of the conductors of the direct Wagner lineage, Muck, S Wagner, Nickisch or even subjected them to audio analysis in for example Digital Performer, you would very quickly that an EXTREMELY flexible tempo I have not said anything about tempo... is the order of the day and that there is NO SUCH THING as all notes being of equal weight. And I said exactly that -- I said that weight in the Wagnerian style was determined by the shape of the line, not by metric position. Did you perhaps miss that post? I have no idea where you got this play it like a Sousa March/metronomically idea, That is ridiculous -- nothing swings more than a Sousa march. but it is directly contradictory to Wagner's wishes and contradicts historically informed performance practice. Metronome marking and tempo have nothing at all to do with what I'm speaking of, so I don't think it's possible to have a discussion when you're speaking about one topic and I'm speaking of an entirely different one. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Swing and Weight
Earl, you are wrong, I introduced the topic and I never even mentioned the word groove. I was talking about inegalité and how I think it should be done. You also diagreed with something I never wrote. I did not read a post by David which would justify your email. Perhaps I missed it. Johannes On 10.02.2009 earlrs...@aol.com wrote: David, the topic was groove and swing. Both different from weight. You should be more clear from where *you* were taught. Swing and groove incorporate velocity, tempo, position within meter. You took it upon yourself to disagree. By the way you can drop the attitude. Earl ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
