Re: [Finale] OT: Telemann Concerto for 3 horns
Lawrence, Do you mean TWV 54:D2 (I think this is the only one for three horns)? According to Ruhnke's catalogue (1999), there are/were two editions: Amsterdam, KaWe Nr. 126 and 127a (E. Leloir) Adliswil, Kunzelmann (K. Janetzky) Ruhnke gives no dates for these, and they could well be older i.e. no longer available. One set of parts is in Darmstadt (D DS, Mus. ms. 1033/63), another in Dresden (D Dl, Mus. 2392-O-30) so you _could_ order a film and do your own edition — or even print out the parts and play from them directly if they're not too illegible. Hope this helps! Eric On 09.03.2009, at 23:02, Lawrence Yates wrote: Hi, Does anyone know where I can get hold of the horn and orchestral parts to the Telemann Concerto for 3 horns? (I'm in the UK) Thanks, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Habsburger Verlag Frankfurt (Dr. Fiedler) www.habsburgerverlag.de eric.f.fied...@t-online.de e.fied...@em.uni-frankfurt.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] [OT] extended characters in sibelius
i use some extended characters for some symbols in fonts i have developed and apparently there is some sort of limit on what sibelius can access. for example, i have the whole rest placed in the (greek character sideways-M) position and it is not accessible in sibelius. anyone have a workaround/solution? apparently fixing the problem is on the sibelius wish list... ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Page number - yet another problem
Suddenly the page number on page 2 won't print. The number on every other page prints fine. Any ideas? Barbara As always thankful for any insight ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] OT: Telemann's Klingenden Geographie
Hello, all, Since there seems to be more than a little Telemann expertise on this list I thought I'd ask my question, too. Can anyone help me find original source materials (MsS, etc) for Telemann's Klindenden Geographie? I know there's a Hoffmann edition available via Lucks, but I'd like to go back to original sources, if possible. For those of you who don't know this suite, it's a collection of 30 something movements describing in musical terms various countries of the world, starting close in and working further out (to Afrika, then finally Amerika, the Hope of the Mississippi). It's mostly for strings and is quite engaging, often painting a dual portrait of a country, both old and new. I have a possible research and recording project in line and given that I've been out of the musicological research mode for some time I would appreciate help in finding sources. The above is a mid or later work. It is perhaps based on a much earlier work Singenden Geographie (maybe misattributed?), hopefully with words? Again, what searching I've done hasn't yielded any original sources, so any help with that would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. Now back to your regular Finale programming. Andrew Levin ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Telemann's Klingenden Geographie
Andrew Levin wrote: Hello, all, Since there seems to be more than a little Telemann expertise on this list I thought I'd ask my question, too. Can anyone help me find original source materials (MsS, etc) for Telemann's Klindenden Geographie? I know there's a Hoffmann edition available via Lucks, but I'd like to go back to original sources, if possible. For those of you who don't know this suite, it's a collection of 30 something movements describing in musical terms various countries of the world, starting close in and working further out (to Afrika, then finally Amerika, the Hope of the Mississippi). It's mostly for strings and is quite engaging, often painting a dual portrait of a country, both old and new. I have a possible research and recording project in line and given that I've been out of the musicological research mode for some time I would appreciate help in finding sources. The above is a mid or later work. It is perhaps based on a much earlier work Singenden Geographie (maybe misattributed?), hopefully with words? Again, what searching I've done hasn't yielded any original sources, so any help with that would be greatly appreciated. In the Utrecht University Library is Die Lieder der Singenden Geographie von Losius-Telemann : zugeleich ein Beitrag zur Deutung der Umwelt Georg Philipp Telemann während seiner Schulzeit in Hildesheim um 1700 / [von] Adolf Hoffmann I can go and make a copy for you, if you like. It's 15 minutes by bus from where I live. Barbara ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Page number - yet another problem
Barbara Touburg wrote: Suddenly the page number on page 2 won't print. The number on every other page prints fine. Any ideas? How is the range defined in the text block attributes dialog? ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Telemann's Klingenden Geographie
Andrew, The thing about the Klingende Geographie is that it is a modern (i.e. 20th century) compilation of movements from various suites put together by A. Hoffmann for his edition, and has, if I remember correctly, nothing to do with the Singende Geographie. Some time ago I took the trouble to sort it all out, but I don't seem to be able to find my notes at the moment. The main part of it came from TWV 55:B5, Suite in B Major for Strings and Bc (Les Turcs, Les Suisses, Les Muscovrites, Les Portugais) but other movements are taken from other suites, such as 55:B11 (L'Espérance de Mississipi) and so on. So what you have to do is comb through the TWV category 55 in Ruhnke's catalogue 'till you have all the movements in Hoffmann's edition! If I find my notes in the next few days, I can drop you a line privately. Eric On 10.03.2009, at 22:05, Andrew Levin wrote: Hello, all, Since there seems to be more than a little Telemann expertise on this list I thought I'd ask my question, too. Can anyone help me find original source materials (MsS, etc) for Telemann's Klindenden Geographie? I know there's a Hoffmann edition available via Lucks, but I'd like to go back to original sources, if possible. For those of you who don't know this suite, it's a collection of 30 something movements describing in musical terms various countries of the world, starting close in and working further out (to Afrika, then finally Amerika, the Hope of the Mississippi). It's mostly for strings and is quite engaging, often painting a dual portrait of a country, both old and new. I have a possible research and recording project in line and given that I've been out of the musicological research mode for some time I would appreciate help in finding sources. The above is a mid or later work. It is perhaps based on a much earlier work Singenden Geographie (maybe misattributed?), hopefully with words? Again, what searching I've done hasn't yielded any original sources, so any help with that would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. Now back to your regular Finale programming. Andrew Levin ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Habsburger Verlag Frankfurt (Dr. Fiedler) www.habsburgerverlag.de eric.f.fied...@t-online.de e.fied...@em.uni-frankfurt.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Page number - yet another problem
Noel Stoutenburg wrote: How is the range defined in the text block attributes dialog? As it should. All pages, alignment left, position from edge of frame, use right page positioning, etc. etc. I use a numbering offset of 9, since this the second song in a set of five. Now that I think of it, a while ago I inserted a blank page. could that be it? I've tried faking the page number with another text block, only on this page; with an expression; with an articulation; the only thing I haven't tried yet is a lyrics syllable. It's like there's something prohibiting a page number! Barbara ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Page number - yet another problem
A syllable doesn't work either. Anyone like to have a look at the file? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Importing from Word to Finale
On Mar 7, 2009, at 5:44 PM, dhbailey wrote: Finale text boxes have adjustable tabs? Tabs, shmabs. Finale has the capabilities, mostly in submenus: Center ? Yes. Right ? Yes. Dot-leader tabs? Da hell izzat? Columns? Tables? Use 2, 3, more aligned blocks. No, it's not hard and it's not time-consuming. My 13-page catalog on 8 folded sheets displays as many as 4 columns per sheet. Composers' names are at the left; composition names are indented, all exactly the same amount. Spell-check? You use a spell checker? Eew! Using different justification for different lines within the same text box? Yes. Word-wrap? [...] but when typing into the text box, it isn't what will show once I exit the text box and so I'm constantly exiting to check actual layout, re-entering the text block to change things around, guessing where the new line breaks should be, then re-exiting the text block to check it out once again. Unlike the rest of Finale, I suppose, whch is utterly WYSIWYG and in which you never have to print out the file to see what it really. truly looks like. What about documents where we simply want nicely laid out tables of contents -- they have always been a pain to get just right in Finale. Not for me, and I do it all the time. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://www.kallistimusic.com/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Importing from Word to Finale
On Mar 8, 2009, at 7:40 AM, dhbailey wrote: ...For people creating typical musical scores where there might be a short paragraph or two at the start and small text blocks along the way, it's fine. But for someone who is trying to create a work such as a textbook or even a songbook with lengthy text blocks about the composers or history of the song. A book is clearly inappropriate, but I quite customarily write lengthy prefaces and critical reports for large historical works or collections, all in Finale, and produce results equal or superior to what is found in most non-musical books. I hope that references elsewhereto unfamiliarity with professional typographic standards is not intended to include *me*, for such an assertion is belied by all my work. Or, god forbid, a score for a musical play which has lots of dialog mixed among lots of music -- dialog needs extra special text handling which Finale just can't give. This presumably applies equally to operas with spoken dialog (as: Carmen, The Magic Flute, et numerous cetra), and I confess I fail to see any problem at all. A colleague is currently helping me out with a lengthy 19th c. oratorio *and* a lengthy text-and-orchestra melodrama by me, and issues with the spoken dialog/narration have simply not come up. Where's the problem? ... the thought of having to do that to create a usable score for a musical, where the music may be 7 or 8 pages of score for each song with 1 or 2 pages of dialog interspersed (and of course, not necessarily beginnning and ending at page breaks, is impossible. Well, the *thought* can't be impossible, 'cause you just now thunk it. As for the thing itself, if it truly were impossible it would also be impossible for all sorts of large genres with spoken dialog: opera, oratorio, melodrama, narrations of all sorts, which if they were truly impossible in Finale would be such a huge hole in the program as to dramatically reduce sales. In fact though, people seldom complain about any such thing. There are things that it really is impossible to do with Finale alone (curved staves, frinstance). The difference in impossibility between that and the placement of spoken dialog should be obvious, IMO. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://www.kallistimusic.com/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Importing from Word to Finale
I'm with you on this, Andrew. I have done a lot of text of all sorts in Finale. There really are very few limits. Raymond Horton Andrew Stiller wrote: On Mar 8, 2009, at 7:40 AM, dhbailey wrote: ...For people creating typical musical scores where there might be a short paragraph or two at the start and small text blocks along the way, it's fine. But for someone who is trying to create a work such as a textbook or even a songbook with lengthy text blocks about the composers or history of the song. A book is clearly inappropriate, but I quite customarily write lengthy prefaces and critical reports for large historical works or collections, all in Finale, and produce results equal or superior to what is found in most non-musical books. I hope that references elsewhereto unfamiliarity with professional typographic standards is not intended to include *me*, for such an assertion is belied by all my work. Or, god forbid, a score for a musical play which has lots of dialog mixed among lots of music -- dialog needs extra special text handling which Finale just can't give. This presumably applies equally to operas with spoken dialog (as: Carmen, The Magic Flute, et numerous cetra), and I confess I fail to see any problem at all. A colleague is currently helping me out with a lengthy 19th c. oratorio *and* a lengthy text-and-orchestra melodrama by me, and issues with the spoken dialog/narration have simply not come up. Where's the problem? ... the thought of having to do that to create a usable score for a musical, where the music may be 7 or 8 pages of score for each song with 1 or 2 pages of dialog interspersed (and of course, not necessarily beginnning and ending at page breaks, is impossible. Well, the *thought* can't be impossible, 'cause you just now thunk it. As for the thing itself, if it truly were impossible it would also be impossible for all sorts of large genres with spoken dialog: opera, oratorio, melodrama, narrations of all sorts, which if they were truly impossible in Finale would be such a huge hole in the program as to dramatically reduce sales. In fact though, people seldom complain about any such thing. There are things that it really is impossible to do with Finale alone (curved staves, frinstance). The difference in impossibility between that and the placement of spoken dialog should be obvious, IMO. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://www.kallistimusic.com/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Importing from Word to Finale
Getting back to the original question, does Andrew agree that vertical R-to-L Japanese text with furigana is outside the limits of a Finale text box? If not, I would welcome his suggestions on how to accomplish this. On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Ray Horton rayhor...@insightbb.com wrote: I'm with you on this, Andrew. I have done a lot of text of all sorts in Finale. There really are very few limits. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
