[Finale] NEOT: graphic notation exhibition | montréal
not entirely off-topic Hearing Visions Sonares: a multimedia exhibit of graphic scores http://www.mcgill.ca/library-about/events March 21 - August 15, 2009 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] [TAN] Meter Signature Question (X-post)
Eric Fiedler wrote: Noel, You're probably right about the tempo relations between the movements ... but it would be important to know if the "Viennese baroque composer" (a) was an Italian or influenced by the Italians? He was not an Italian, but I believe he was influenced by Italian musicians and (b) lived in the early or the late part of which century?. Second half of the 17th Century, and into the 18th by a few years. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] [TAN] Meter Signature Question (X-post)
Noel, You're probably right about the tempo relations between the movements ... but it would be important to know if the "Viennese baroque composer" (a) was an Italian or influenced by the Italians? and (b) lived in the early or the late part of which century?. The second movement is the old "sequialtera" proportion (the note values have here, I believe, been halved), so one measure (brevis) of three Semibreves would be as long as one measure with two without the 3/2. The third movement could be a relique of the old "prolatio" notation, whereby a brevis is equal to two _perfect_ semibreves ... but here the tempo relations are/were not always so clear. Providing all this makes _musical_ sense, I'd run with it. But to be a little more secure, you'd need a film/facsimile ... Eric Habsburger Verlag Frankfurt (Dr. Fiedler) www.habsburgerverlag.de eric.f.fied...@t-online.de e.fied...@em.uni-frankfurt.de On 18.03.2009, at 11:59, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Friends: I posted this question to the Early Music email list / newsgroup a couple of days ago, but the moderator has not yet approved it. While this is only tangentially related to Finale, I _am_ suing Finale to create a performing edition of the score. The question arises from a setting of the Ordinary of the Mass by a Viennese baroque composer, edited by a late Romantic Viennese Musicologist. In the Kyrie, which is in the customary three sections immediately after the clefs of the first section the symbol "C" [NB: this is the bold "C" usually used in music engraving to mean common time] appears; in the second section, again the symbol "C" appears, this time followed by a meter signature of 3/2; the third section, again bears the symbol "C" with a meter signature of 6/4. Three measures from the end of the third section is the marking "Adagio". The second section contains about 40 measures, with notation based on the half note (3 to a measure), the first and third about 20, with the notation based upon the quarter note (4 to a measure in the first part; 6 to a measure in the third). I'm trying to work out the likely tempo / meter for each section. It seems to me that the fact that the "C" appears in each section is an indication that the measures take the same amount of time, so that the relationship is that 4 quarters in the first section takes the same amount of time as 3 half in the second, and 6 quarters in the third, I'm taking the Adagio as an indication of a tempo of about 60, and the other three sections the basic pulse a bit faster. This is complicated a bit by the fact that the edition I am studying does not meet the current standards for a critical edition, so I don't have the facsimile of the original clefs and meter indications. Opinions, anyone? ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] [TAN] Meter Signature Question (X-post)
Oops. I'm not nearly as disappointed with Finale as some, but even if I were, I can't conceive of a circumstance where I _am_ suing Finale to create a performing edition of the score. I am, of course, "using" Finale to create the performing edition. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] [TAN] Meter Signature Question (X-post)
Friends: I posted this question to the Early Music email list / newsgroup a couple of days ago, but the moderator has not yet approved it. While this is only tangentially related to Finale, I _am_ suing Finale to create a performing edition of the score. The question arises from a setting of the Ordinary of the Mass by a Viennese baroque composer, edited by a late Romantic Viennese Musicologist. In the Kyrie, which is in the customary three sections immediately after the clefs of the first section the symbol "C" [NB: this is the bold "C" usually used in music engraving to mean common time] appears; in the second section, again the symbol "C" appears, this time followed by a meter signature of 3/2; the third section, again bears the symbol "C" with a meter signature of 6/4. Three measures from the end of the third section is the marking "Adagio". The second section contains about 40 measures, with notation based on the half note (3 to a measure), the first and third about 20, with the notation based upon the quarter note (4 to a measure in the first part; 6 to a measure in the third). I'm trying to work out the likely tempo / meter for each section. It seems to me that the fact that the "C" appears in each section is an indication that the measures take the same amount of time, so that the relationship is that 4 quarters in the first section takes the same amount of time as 3 half in the second, and 6 quarters in the third, I'm taking the Adagio as an indication of a tempo of about 60, and the other three sections the basic pulse a bit faster. This is complicated a bit by the fact that the edition I am studying does not meet the current standards for a critical edition, so I don't have the facsimile of the original clefs and meter indications. Opinions, anyone? ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
