[Finale] improve speed of finale (mac)
hey any tips would be welcome. i'm trying to improve the speed of finale and my computer, i'm on a mac mini (1.42) and will be probably for another year or so until i get a fast new machine. finale 2010 seems a bit more of a hog than 2008, and i really noticed it on a recent job, a score using metatool-applied shape expressions, and therefore the shape selection palette had like 7000 (or some other obscene number) copies of various things, mostly identical (this functioning is one of the things i hate about finale, just thought you should know). i have removed many plugins i don't use already, but is there anything else that can be done to make things run faster? working in scroll view is supposed to be faster, but i don't find that working in scroll view works very well, for my needs, since everything i place on the page is intended to be the final version and not need to ever be moved, except in the final cleanup of the score/layout. is there anything i can disenable, rearrange, switch or whatever to improve the performance in general of finale? anything system-related would also be appreciated. i'm cleaning out the HD and usually try to keep as few apps open as possible while working on finale. also making an effort to reboot more often, like at least once a week 8-) cheers, jef ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] improve speed of finale (mac)
As a Mac Mini owner, the single best thing to speed up the mini is to NOT use the internal drive. Move everything to a firewire or usb2 drive. Everything meaning the OS, apps, etc. You will have a huge jump in speed right away. http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/ has this tip and others. Second, max out the memory. Third, though OS X supposedly does defragmentation on the hard drive, a good tool like iDefrag or Speedtools can ensure that you have contiguous space on your drive for temp files, so the hard drive head isn't moving all over the place. Forth, keep the system up to date. Honestly, unlike Microsoft, every recent OS X version has been more and more optimized, so there is a noticeable speed increase between 10.4 and 10.5, and obviously between 10.5 and 10.6 (if you have an Intel mac to run it on). On Oct 20, 2009, at 5:47 AM, shirling neueweise wrote: hey any tips would be welcome. i'm trying to improve the speed of finale and my computer, i'm on a mac mini (1.42) and will be probably for another year or so until i get a fast new machine. finale 2010 seems a bit more of a hog than 2008, and i really noticed it on a recent job, a score using metatool-applied shape expressions, and therefore the shape selection palette had like 7000 (or some other obscene number) copies of various things, mostly identical (this functioning is one of the things i hate about finale, just thought you should know). i have removed many plugins i don't use already, but is there anything else that can be done to make things run faster? working in scroll view is supposed to be faster, but i don't find that working in scroll view works very well, for my needs, since everything i place on the page is intended to be the final version and not need to ever be moved, except in the final cleanup of the score/layout. is there anything i can disenable, rearrange, switch or whatever to improve the performance in general of finale? anything system-related would also be appreciated. i'm cleaning out the HD and usually try to keep as few apps open as possible while working on finale. also making an effort to reboot more often, like at least once a week 8-) cheers, jef ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] improve speed of finale (mac)
hey eric, thanks. As a Mac Mini owner, the single best thing to speed up the mini is to NOT use the internal drive. Move everything to a firewire or usb2 drive. Everything meaning the OS, apps, etc. You will have a huge jump in speed right away. http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/ has this tip and others. wow! never heard of that but i guess trying it can't hurt, although moving the OS seems a bit radical and frightens me 8-) Second, max out the memory. yeah i maxed the thing out everywhere i could when i bought it, my understanding was this was the only way to make the mini worth buying if you really used it professionally. Third, though OS X supposedly does defragmentation on the hard drive, a good tool like iDefrag or Speedtools can ensure that you have contiguous space on your drive for temp files, so the hard drive head isn't moving all over the place. seem to remember not being able to get iDefrag to work... but will look into it again. Forth, keep the system up to date. Honestly, unlike Microsoft, every recent OS X version has been more and more optimized, so there is a noticeable speed increase between 10.4 and 10.5, and obviously between 10.5 and 10.6 (if you have an Intel mac to run it on). ok, thanks, this is a great tip. i hate upgrading, there is always things to correct / change that take up too much time for me, but knowing this just might get me to finally go for 10.5 (don't have intel). ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] improve speed of finale (mac)
However going to 10.5 you will lose your ability to run Classic (OS 9) programs Moving the OS to a new hard drive is painless. Totally painless. Carbon Copy Cloner, or any number of utilities will do it for you. For free. You won't have to reauthorize Finale. The only program that complained to me was Digital Performer. Everything else was just fine being moved back and forth. Plus, if you do that you automatically defragment your hard drive. iDefrag will work on a drive that is online but for better results you need to boot off another drive or something. Another util that does defragmenting and other things is TechTool. It even makes a bootable DVD for you. I highly recommend it. I cannot find the article about moving the Mac Mini to firewire. But I ran my G4 mac mini off a firewire drive and it was a faster. I mean, 7200 RPM 3.5 inch drive compared to the laptop drive in the mini, which might have been 4200 RPM depending on the model... On Oct 20, 2009, at 9:48 AM, shirling neueweise wrote: hey eric, thanks. As a Mac Mini owner, the single best thing to speed up the mini is to NOT use the internal drive. Move everything to a firewire or usb2 drive. Everything meaning the OS, apps, etc. You will have a huge jump in speed right away. http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/ has this tip and others. wow! never heard of that but i guess trying it can't hurt, although moving the OS seems a bit radical and frightens me 8-) Second, max out the memory. yeah i maxed the thing out everywhere i could when i bought it, my understanding was this was the only way to make the mini worth buying if you really used it professionally. Third, though OS X supposedly does defragmentation on the hard drive, a good tool like iDefrag or Speedtools can ensure that you have contiguous space on your drive for temp files, so the hard drive head isn't moving all over the place. seem to remember not being able to get iDefrag to work... but will look into it again. Forth, keep the system up to date. Honestly, unlike Microsoft, every recent OS X version has been more and more optimized, so there is a noticeable speed increase between 10.4 and 10.5, and obviously between 10.5 and 10.6 (if you have an Intel mac to run it on). ok, thanks, this is a great tip. i hate upgrading, there is always things to correct / change that take up too much time for me, but knowing this just might get me to finally go for 10.5 (don't have intel). ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] {Fraud?} {Disarmed} Fwd: Finale 2010a Maintenance Update Now Available
Hi gang! Just got this. Downloading now. I'm a little underwhelmed by the number and lack of severity of the bug fixes. Once you click the link, there is another link to a PDF file with a complete (well, complete for MakeMusic) list of bug fixes. Christopher What’s New in Finale 2010a. View this e-mail as a web page. View this e-mail on a mobile device. To ensure delivery to your inbox, please add makemu...@email.makemusic.com to your address book. Dear Finale® 2010 Registered User, Thank you for upgrading to Finale 2010. We wanted to inform you that the Finale 2010 maintenance update is now available as a free download to Finale 2010 registered users. What’s New in Finale 2010a: New Percussion Functionality including new options in the Percussion MIDI Map Editor that allow you to create custom percussion MIDI maps for ultimate control over the sounds your percussion staves play back. Support for Macintosh OS 10.6 (Snow Leopard) Enhanced integration of Staff Styles and Linked Parts – Apply Staff Styles to only the part or score you are viewing, and easily update staff styles in a score to match its part and vice versa. Classroom and Individual Flash Cards – Finale now includes 271 classroom flash cards to use in front of the classroom and 126 individual flash cards for students to use for self-quizzing. 30 Ear Training Worksheets for intervals, chords and melodic dictation. Students can print the worksheets, use the Finale Reader to play the examples, and write the answers on the printed worksheets. Click here for more information on what’s new and to login to your account to download the Finale 2010a update. If you have any questions, please contact us online at www.finalemusic.com/support. Sincerely, Finale Customer Support 7615 Golden Triangle Drive, Suite M Eden Prairie, MN 55344-3848 We respect your privacy, to unsubscribe click here. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: Finale 2010a Maintenance Update Now Available
Wow, Individual Flash Cards! Oh man sign me up. On Oct 20, 2009, at 9:33 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: What’s New in Finale 2010a. View this e-mail as a web page. View this e-mail on a mobile device. To ensure delivery to your inbox, please add makemu...@email.makemusic.com to your address book. Dear Finale® 2010 Registered User, Thank you for upgrading to Finale 2010. We wanted to inform you that the Finale 2010 maintenance update is now available as a free download to Finale 2010 registered users. What’s New in Finale 2010a: New Percussion Functionality including new options in the Percussion MIDI Map Editor that allow you to create custom percussion MIDI maps for ultimate control over the sounds your percussion staves play back. Support for Macintosh OS 10.6 (Snow Leopard) Enhanced integration of Staff Styles and Linked Parts – Apply Staff Styles to only the part or score you are viewing, and easily update staff styles in a score to match its part and vice versa. Classroom and Individual Flash Cards – Finale now includes 271 classroom flash cards to use in front of the classroom and 126 individual flash cards for students to use for self-quizzing. 30 Ear Training Worksheets for intervals, chords and melodic dictation. Students can print the worksheets, use the Finale Reader to play the examples, and write the answers on the printed worksheets. Click here for more information on what’s new and to login to your account to download the Finale 2010a update. If you have any questions, please contact us online at www.finalemusic.com/support . Sincerely, Finale Customer Support 7615 Golden Triangle Drive, Suite M Eden Prairie, MN 55344-3848 We respect your privacy, to unsubscribe click here. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] End of Make Music?
Phone's out and web site down? Must be out of business. Oh, 2010a out today. The Rumor Mill at the MM Forum is a little ahead of this one! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] End of Make Music?
I tried the download ... when it told me it would take 4.5 hrs., I cancelled it. Dean On Oct 20, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Jim Dukey wrote: Phone's out and web site down? Must be out of business. Oh, 2010a out today. The Rumor Mill at the MM Forum is a little ahead of this one! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Canto ergo sum And, I'd rather be composing than decomposing Dean M. Estabrook http://deanestabrook.googlepages.com/home ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Maintenance Update downloading
Crap, my download just aborted at 70% complete after a couple of slow hours. Maybe tonight when everyone else in my hemisphere is asleep... C On Tue Oct 20, at TuesdayOct 20 2:45 PM, Michael Greensill wrote: Mine is currently telling me it will take 6 1/2 hours. I too have given up. I'll miss those flash cards though. :) Mike G. www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] improve speed of finale (mac)
On Tue Oct 20, at TuesdayOct 20 12:48 PM, shirling neueweise wrote: Forth, keep the system up to date. Honestly, unlike Microsoft, every recent OS X version has been more and more optimized, so there is a noticeable speed increase between 10.4 and 10.5, and obviously between 10.5 and 10.6 (if you have an Intel mac to run it on). ok, thanks, this is a great tip. i hate upgrading, there is always things to correct / change that take up too much time for me, but knowing this just might get me to finally go for 10.5 (don't have intel). I didn't know that upgrading the system made you faster! Wow, that is great to know! I assumed that the new systems had more bells and whistles making it heavier. I suppose some of the coding got streamlined? Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] improve speed of finale (mac)
I'd say that my experience on OS X has been that the initial releases are perhaps a tad slower than the version before. So, upgrading from 10.4.11 to 10.5 you'd notice a slight decrease in speed. But as Apple releases updates to it, it makes up the difference in speed. Though if you have an Intel Mac, you should be on 10.6 now. The speed increase on my 2006 iMac has been quite worth it, and even ProTools is working on it. Amazing. On Oct 20, 2009, at 12:03 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: On Tue Oct 20, at TuesdayOct 20 12:48 PM, shirling neueweise wrote: Forth, keep the system up to date. Honestly, unlike Microsoft, every recent OS X version has been more and more optimized, so there is a noticeable speed increase between 10.4 and 10.5, and obviously between 10.5 and 10.6 (if you have an Intel mac to run it on). ok, thanks, this is a great tip. i hate upgrading, there is always things to correct / change that take up too much time for me, but knowing this just might get me to finally go for 10.5 (don't have intel). I didn't know that upgrading the system made you faster! Wow, that is great to know! I assumed that the new systems had more bells and whistles making it heavier. I suppose some of the coding got streamlined? Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] improve speed of finale (mac)
To increase speed, I use a ram disk and have Finale save its temp files to that. I know people say that using a ram disk makes no sense on os x but the difference for me in terms of finale is noticeable and substantial. This is on a recent iMac, and has been the case forever. Matthew Sent from my iPhone On 21/10/2009, at 6:22 AM, Eric Dannewitz ericd...@jazz-sax.com wrote: I'd say that my experience on OS X has been that the initial releases are perhaps a tad slower than the version before. So, upgrading from 10.4.11 to 10.5 you'd notice a slight decrease in speed. But as Apple releases updates to it, it makes up the difference in speed. Though if you have an Intel Mac, you should be on 10.6 now. The speed increase on my 2006 iMac has been quite worth it, and even ProTools is working on it. Amazing. On Oct 20, 2009, at 12:03 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: On Tue Oct 20, at TuesdayOct 20 12:48 PM, shirling neueweise wrote: Forth, keep the system up to date. Honestly, unlike Microsoft, every recent OS X version has been more and more optimized, so there is a noticeable speed increase between 10.4 and 10.5, and obviously between 10.5 and 10.6 (if you have an Intel mac to run it on). ok, thanks, this is a great tip. i hate upgrading, there is always things to correct / change that take up too much time for me, but knowing this just might get me to finally go for 10.5 (don't have intel). I didn't know that upgrading the system made you faster! Wow, that is great to know! I assumed that the new systems had more bells and whistles making it heavier. I suppose some of the coding got streamlined? Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] improve speed of finale (mac)
On 20 Oct 2009 at 14:47, shirling neueweise wrote: hey any tips would be welcome. i'm trying to improve the speed of finale and my computer, i'm on a mac mini (1.42) and will be probably for another year or so until i get a fast new machine. If the RAM on your Mini isn't maxed out, that's probably the cheapest performance boost you could get, i.e., by maxing it out. Standard memory is often very, very cheap. For instance, on my 4-year-old laptop, I maxed it out at 2GBs for $40! I just tossed the original 512MB DIMM. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Finale 2010a Maintenance Update Now Available
On 20 Oct 2009 at 20:41, shirling neueweise wrote: Wow, Individual Flash Cards! Oh man sign me up. seems that is more important than fixing linked parts... or a plethora of other stupid bugs. It got included because it was VERY, VERY EASY to add, as it didn't require any programming changes. This is typical -- low-value features that are extremely simple to implement are going to get implemented before high-value features (or bug fixes) that are extremely complex. It's just your basic low- hanging fruit strategy. I'm reminded of the recent exchange in a health care hearing on Capitol Hill in DC where a male Congressman observed that he didn't need pre-natal care in his health insurance, so he was paying for something he couldn't use. A female Congressman pointed out that his mother probably needed it, but the point that I'm trying to make in relation to Finale is that things that don't matter to you personally may matter to enough other Finale users to keep them committed to buying upgrades. That's good for everyone in the long run, even if it's completely useless to you, personally. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Maintenance Update downloading
Michael Greensill wrote: Mine is currently telling me it will take 6 1/2 hours. I too have given up. I'll miss those flash cards though. :) Mike G. www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Well, it's been over 4 hours and my download is almost done. I can't wait to get at those flash cards! ;-) It's impossible for me as a non-programmer to comment on whether the fixes that are listed are minor or not, but at least in the list of fixes, the claim is made that the User Manual now opens in the default browser. If that's true, it'll be a long-standing gripe resolved. And makes me wonder why it couldn't have been done a couple of versions ago, when they went to HTML help files in the first place. But I'll be happy if it's true now. After all this time, it's at 95% -- please don't let the power go out now! :-) -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Maintenance Update downloading
On 20 Oct 2009 at 19:39, dhbailey wrote: in the list of fixes, the claim is made that the User Manual now opens in the default browser. If that's true, it'll be a long-standing gripe resolved. And makes me wonder why it couldn't have been done a couple of versions ago, when they went to HTML help files in the first place. I think a number of us have offered plausible explanations more than once. If an application developer chooses a set of tools to produce cross-platform help files, and the tools are limited in what they can do in regard to browser-agnosticism, then the developer can end up with a situation like that which so many have complained about for so long. If MM didn't use such tools, I would guess that they would likely have been unable to produce the documentation as quickly or as accurately. Obviously, the development team made the determination based on their knowledge of all the trade-offs involved that it was better to cause the minor annoyance of opening in one particular browser on Windows instead of using the default browser than it was to pay whatever the price would be to avoid that annoyance. You don't know what the trade-offs involved were, so you can't really judge if it was the best decision. My guess is that it was the best they could do with their limited resources. It's just too bad they couldn't have made whatever adjustment was necessary to avoid the problem much, much sooner. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
