Re: [Finale] More questions
On 12/1/2010 3:57 PM, Richard Yates wrote: Probably nothing wrong. Added measures do not inherit the system reduction (or is it the staff reduction?) of the existing ones. It's bugged me for years. Added measures take their settings from the Page Format settings, which may or may not match the existing measures in the score. For example, I have a template file in which the blank measures already in the score are at 85%, but the Page Format for Score specifies 65%. When new measures get added, they are at 65%. David Bailey is right that in most cases you want added measures to be the same as the ones immediately preceding them, but then you'd have people saying, "Hey! I already set my Page Format to 65% -- why are you making my new measures 85%?" In any case, as long as the existing measures in the template match what you have in Page Format, there shouldn't be any problem. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
{Spam} Re: [Finale] More questions
On 12/1/2010 3:57 PM, Richard Yates wrote: Probably nothing wrong. Added measures do not inherit the system reduction (or is it the staff reduction?) of the existing ones. It's bugged me for years. Richard Yates It's bugged me too -- why would anybody think that you would want the new measures to be a different size from the rest of the score? I can understand the program not knowing what to do if there already a variety of sizes in the score, but even then, simply assigning the size characteristics of what used to be the last measure to any new ones added after that shouldn't be such a hard thing to do. The worst is that someone wanting different sizes would have to change them, but my guess is that most people adding new measures want them to be the same size as the current ones, so fewer people would be affected if MakeMusic simply changed the programming so that new measures assumed the size of the former last measure. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] More questions
Probably nothing wrong. Added measures do not inherit the system reduction (or is it the staff reduction?) of the existing ones. It's bugged me for years. Richard Yates > I opened one of my templates from 2010 in 2011. When I add > measures to this document the staves on the second page are a > different size! > They are maybe 25% smaller. What did I do wrong now? I > presume the template is corrupted, but maybe it's something else. > > Mike G. > > www.mikegreensill.com > > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
{Spam} Re: [Finale] mid-measure clefs
On 11/30/2010 5:16 PM, Cecil Rigby wrote: Well THAT has certainly become an absolutely obtuse procedure to use for applying a mid-measure clef change. I'm glad I do most of my work in v2003 and 06 -many thanks for the many helps- I'm also glad to know the manual is wrong. Yes, that is most reassuring, isn't it? ;-) -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] More questions
It's not a corrupt template. Look under menu Document>Page Format>Score and go over your settings to find your answer. Cheers, Steve 12/1/10 1:32 PM, "Michael Greensill" wrote: > I opened one of my templates from 2010 in 2011. When I add measures > to this document the staves on the second page are a different size! > They are maybe 25% smaller. What did I do wrong now? I presume the > template is corrupted, but maybe it's something else. > > Mike G. > > www.mikegreensill.com > > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > ilman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] More questions
Mike, I don't think the template is necessarily corrupted. Try using the page layout tool on the 2011 file, select the staff system on page 1 and apply the same percentages to the following pages. Did I make that clear enough? Finale is not open here at the moment, so I cannot be clearer right now, but I think you can figure it out by looking at the possibilities with the Page Layout tool. Chuck On Dec 1, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Michael Greensill wrote: > I opened one of my templates from 2010 in 2011. When I add measures to this > document the staves on the second page are a different size! They are maybe > 25% smaller. What did I do wrong now? I presume the template is corrupted, > but maybe it's something else. > > Mike G. > > www.mikegreensill.com > > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 1310 NW Naito Parkway #807 Portland, OR 97209-3162 phone: (503) 926-7952 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] More questions
I opened one of my templates from 2010 in 2011. When I add measures to this document the staves on the second page are a different size! They are maybe 25% smaller. What did I do wrong now? I presume the template is corrupted, but maybe it's something else. Mike G. www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] mid-measure clefs
Well THAT has certainly become an absolutely obtuse procedure to use for applying a mid-measure clef change. I'm glad I do most of my work in v2003 and 06 -many thanks for the many helps- I'm also glad to know the manual is wrong. -Cecil ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] No Finale 2011 folder?
On 30 Nov 2010 at 23:20, Aaron Sherber wrote: > On 11/30/2010 10:36 PM, Michael Greensill wrote: > > Thanks guys, there it isyou'd think that they'd tell us this > > stuff. > I know MM doesn't always do the best job of communicating these > things, but the Readme does say: > > *_Folder Reorganization_* > > To accommodate the autonomy of each of a computer's multiple users, > and to prevent permissions issues, Finale 2011 installs its components > to various locations on your hard drive depending on their function > and required accessibility. See "Finale Installation Details" in the > User Manual for more information. > > And if you look up that section in the manual (use the Index), you > should see a fairly complete discussion of what goes where. It's somewhat shocking to me that this kind of thing only happened recently. Both OS X and all NT-based versions of Windows should have been organized this way all along (though it's true that Vista/Win7 make some changes on the location of user and application data, while early versions of OS X were slightly different than later ones). Simply put, from the release of OS X (2000?) and WinXP (2001), this is the way Finale should have worked, because that's the way those OS's organized user and application data. MM is not alone in being late to this party, but they are much later than any other software I know about (other than stuff that's ported from Linux, which is usually horrible in this regard). -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Respell Rhythms
You ARE selecting the measure(s) in question with the Selection Tool before you apply Rebar Music? This works perfectly for me. Christopher On Wed Dec 1, at WednesdayDec 1 8:48 AM, Steve Parker wrote: > Sorry, > > 4/4 quarter-tied-to-quarter quarter-tied-to-quarter > > I would like to find an automatic way to replace with > > 4/4 minim minim > > Thanks! > > Steve P. > > > On 1 Dec 2010, at 13:33, Christopher Smith wrote: > >> Then you'll have to be more specific. In a bar of 4/4 with quarter, >> quarter-tied-to-quarter, quarter, Rebar changes the middle pair to a half >> note for me in a default document. >> >> Christopher >> >> >> >> On Wed Dec 1, at WednesdayDec 1 8:04 AM, Steve Parker wrote: >> >>> No, this doesn't do it. >>> >>> Steve P. >>> >>> >>> On 1 Dec 2010, at 12:41, Darcy James Argue wrote: >>> Rebar Music. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 1 Dec 2010, at 6:35 AM, Steve Parker wrote: > Hi all! > > Still on my track of trying to learn the stuff I've spent years working > round.. > > Is there a way to respell rhythms? > > Say if I have a score with a ton of crotchet-tied-to-crotchet that I > would like to replace with minim? > > Also, sometimes I paste and end up with wrong beaming. > > Is there some auto way to sort this? > > Thanks! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Respell Rhythms
Steve, try this: Highlight the passage you want to rebar. Under the midi/audio menu click on "retranscribe." Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: > Then you'll have to be more specific. In a bar of 4/4 with quarter, > quarter-tied-to-quarter, quarter, Rebar changes the middle pair to a half > note for me in a default document. > > Christopher > > > > On Wed Dec 1, at WednesdayDec 1 8:04 AM, Steve Parker wrote: > >> No, this doesn't do it. >> >> Steve P. >> >> >> On 1 Dec 2010, at 12:41, Darcy James Argue wrote: >> >>> Rebar Music. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> - DJA >>> - >>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org >>> >>> On 1 Dec 2010, at 6:35 AM, Steve Parker wrote: >>> Hi all! Still on my track of trying to learn the stuff I've spent years working round.. Is there a way to respell rhythms? Say if I have a score with a ton of crotchet-tied-to-crotchet that I would like to replace with minim? Also, sometimes I paste and end up with wrong beaming. Is there some auto way to sort this? Thanks! Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Finale mailing list >>> Finale@shsu.edu >>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Respell Rhythms
Sorry, 4/4 quarter-tied-to-quarter quarter-tied-to-quarter I would like to find an automatic way to replace with 4/4 minim minim Thanks! Steve P. On 1 Dec 2010, at 13:33, Christopher Smith wrote: Then you'll have to be more specific. In a bar of 4/4 with quarter, quarter-tied-to-quarter, quarter, Rebar changes the middle pair to a half note for me in a default document. Christopher On Wed Dec 1, at WednesdayDec 1 8:04 AM, Steve Parker wrote: No, this doesn't do it. Steve P. On 1 Dec 2010, at 12:41, Darcy James Argue wrote: Rebar Music. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 1 Dec 2010, at 6:35 AM, Steve Parker wrote: Hi all! Still on my track of trying to learn the stuff I've spent years working round.. Is there a way to respell rhythms? Say if I have a score with a ton of crotchet-tied-to-crotchet that I would like to replace with minim? Also, sometimes I paste and end up with wrong beaming. Is there some auto way to sort this? Thanks! Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Respell Rhythms
Had to look up crotchet and minim. You'd think I'd know it by now. Rebar music from the Utilities menu will do it, assuming you have your defaults the way you want them. Rebeam can help with beaming issues, too, either all at once or a few measures at a time, if you don't want to screw up something that's right already. Also opening up a Speedy Entry window on the bar in question and restriking the rhythm for just one note will set the entire measure to the default beaming. Christopher On Wed Dec 1, at WednesdayDec 1 7:22 AM, Steve Parker wrote: > Ugh.. the second question I know how to do. > The first I don't.. > > Steve P. > > On 1 Dec 2010, at 11:35, Steve Parker wrote: > >> Hi all! >> >> Still on my track of trying to learn the stuff I've spent years working >> round.. >> >> Is there a way to respell rhythms? >> >> Say if I have a score with a ton of crotchet-tied-to-crotchet that I would >> like to replace with minim? >> >> Also, sometimes I paste and end up with wrong beaming. >> >> Is there some auto way to sort this? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Respell Rhythms
Then you'll have to be more specific. In a bar of 4/4 with quarter, quarter-tied-to-quarter, quarter, Rebar changes the middle pair to a half note for me in a default document. Christopher On Wed Dec 1, at WednesdayDec 1 8:04 AM, Steve Parker wrote: > No, this doesn't do it. > > Steve P. > > > On 1 Dec 2010, at 12:41, Darcy James Argue wrote: > >> Rebar Music. >> >> Cheers, >> >> - DJA >> - >> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org >> >> On 1 Dec 2010, at 6:35 AM, Steve Parker wrote: >> >>> Hi all! >>> >>> Still on my track of trying to learn the stuff I've spent years working >>> round.. >>> >>> Is there a way to respell rhythms? >>> >>> Say if I have a score with a ton of crotchet-tied-to-crotchet that I would >>> like to replace with minim? >>> >>> Also, sometimes I paste and end up with wrong beaming. >>> >>> Is there some auto way to sort this? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Steve P. >>> ___ >>> Finale mailing list >>> Finale@shsu.edu >>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Respell Rhythms
No, this doesn't do it. Steve P. On 1 Dec 2010, at 12:41, Darcy James Argue wrote: Rebar Music. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 1 Dec 2010, at 6:35 AM, Steve Parker wrote: Hi all! Still on my track of trying to learn the stuff I've spent years working round.. Is there a way to respell rhythms? Say if I have a score with a ton of crotchet-tied-to-crotchet that I would like to replace with minim? Also, sometimes I paste and end up with wrong beaming. Is there some auto way to sort this? Thanks! Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Respell Rhythms
Rebar Music. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 1 Dec 2010, at 6:35 AM, Steve Parker wrote: > Hi all! > > Still on my track of trying to learn the stuff I've spent years working > round.. > > Is there a way to respell rhythms? > > Say if I have a score with a ton of crotchet-tied-to-crotchet that I would > like to replace with minim? > > Also, sometimes I paste and end up with wrong beaming. > > Is there some auto way to sort this? > > Thanks! > > Steve P. > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Respell Rhythms
Ugh.. the second question I know how to do. The first I don't.. Steve P. On 1 Dec 2010, at 11:35, Steve Parker wrote: Hi all! Still on my track of trying to learn the stuff I've spent years working round.. Is there a way to respell rhythms? Say if I have a score with a ton of crotchet-tied-to-crotchet that I would like to replace with minim? Also, sometimes I paste and end up with wrong beaming. Is there some auto way to sort this? Thanks! Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Respell Rhythms
Hi all! Still on my track of trying to learn the stuff I've spent years working round.. Is there a way to respell rhythms? Say if I have a score with a ton of crotchet-tied-to-crotchet that I would like to replace with minim? Also, sometimes I paste and end up with wrong beaming. Is there some auto way to sort this? Thanks! Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
