Re: [Finale] clef change and beaming
If it's possible, make the clef change where a beam already breaks, between two beats or between two phrases. If extremes of range force you to put a clef change in the middle of a beamed group, don't break the beam: it's important to show that the rhythmic grouping continues. If you break the beam, it could look as if a break in phrasing is desired. A beam broken in the wrong place can also hamper sight-reading, particularly if there are groups of very short values: if I'm playing passages in 32nd notes I want to see how they fall into beats. Michael On 4 Feb 2011, at 20:50, dc wrote: Does it make sense to break a beam after a clef change? Someone suggested this for a better legibility, and I see the point, but don't know if is permissible or not. Thanks, Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] clef change and beaming
At 9:54 AM +0100 2/5/11, Florence + Michael wrote: If it's possible, make the clef change where a beam already breaks, between two beats or between two phrases. If extremes of range force you to put a clef change in the middle of a beamed group, don't break the beam: it's important to show that the rhythmic grouping continues. If you break the beam, it could look as if a break in phrasing is desired. Ah, but sometimes a break in phrasing IS desired. It's pretty common in baroque music for a given instrument to be outlining two separate, contrapuntal parts simultaneously, say a soprano and alto harmony or pedal point, or even a soprano and bass line with larger leaps. Many modern players don't play it that way, making it all linear, but it's there all the same. And it's the larger leaps that should trigger a clef change, if indeed one is actually needed. I am strongly opposed to gratuitous clef changes just to make the page look prettier! It impedes sightreading. If it's really needed, of course, that's different. I wish we could see an example of the original passage. John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music College of Liberal Arts Human Sciences Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html We never play anything the same way once. Shelly Manne's definition of jazz musicians. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] clef change and beaming
Well, yes, that corresponds to what I said: if it's possible, make the clef change where a beam already breaks, between two beats or between two phrases: if the phrasing already dictates a beam break, by all means put the clef change there. But if no break in phrasing is desired, it's a mistake to break a beamed group with a clef change. Michael On 5 Feb 2011, at 19:27, John Howell wrote: At 9:54 AM +0100 2/5/11, Florence + Michael wrote: If it's possible, make the clef change where a beam already breaks, between two beats or between two phrases. If extremes of range force you to put a clef change in the middle of a beamed group, don't break the beam: it's important to show that the rhythmic grouping continues. If you break the beam, it could look as if a break in phrasing is desired. Ah, but sometimes a break in phrasing IS desired. It's pretty common in baroque music for a given instrument to be outlining two separate, contrapuntal parts simultaneously, say a soprano and alto harmony or pedal point, or even a soprano and bass line with larger leaps. Many modern players don't play it that way, making it all linear, but it's there all the same. And it's the larger leaps that should trigger a clef change, if indeed one is actually needed. I am strongly opposed to gratuitous clef changes just to make the page look prettier! It impedes sightreading. If it's really needed, of course, that's different. I wish we could see an example of the original passage. John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music College of Liberal Arts Human Sciences Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html We never play anything the same way once. Shelly Manne's definition of jazz musicians. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Playback oddities
I wonder if anyone else has encountered this and found a solution? There a part in a piece that (1) plays a mordent and a turn on a note where there is none, and (2) slows down immensely on the start of a bar for about 1/16th note and then goes back to normal. I have tried using JW Tempo to force the slowdown not to occur on the start of the (2) problem, but to no avail. There is no inordinate number of notes at either point, no hidden (or visible) expressions or articulations. Thanks for any help anyone can give to this annoying problem. Matthew ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Playback oddities
Sounds very much like you have chosen Baroque as Human Playback Preference within the Playback Controls window. Klaus From: Matthew Hindson (gmail) mhindson2...@gmail.com To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Sun, February 6, 2011 2:52:38 AM Subject: [Finale] Playback oddities I wonder if anyone else has encountered this and found a solution? There a part in a piece that (1) plays a mordent and a turn on a note where there is none, and (2) slows down immensely on the start of a bar for about 1/16th note and then goes back to normal. I have tried using JW Tempo to force the slowdown not to occur on the start of the (2) problem, but to no avail. There is no inordinate number of notes at either point, no hidden (or visible) expressions or articulations. Thanks for any help anyone can give to this annoying problem. Matthew ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
