Re: [Finale] change instrument
On 2011-10-09 06:36, Chuck Israels wrote: I does seem to me that, if there is provision for saxophone staves to switch to ww doubles, the same thing ought to work for brass, using the existing separate open and muted samples (or trumpet/flugelhorn samples). The change of instruments in Finale 2012 are changes of a physical instrument. So trumpet to flugelhorn would work. Instrumental effects within the same instrument (such as mute, stopped, etc) is handled by HP, or manually. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] change instrument
Try this as a workaround. I've submitted this as a feature request as well. Would it be helpful if the Change Instrument brought up a list of the sounds available instead, like in the ScoreManager? 1) Select the Selection Tool 2) Click where the change needs to be made 3) Go to Utilities Menu Change Instrument 4) Select Blank Staff Blank Staff 5) Go to Window Menu ScoreManager 6) Click the Arrow next to the Staff name (Trumpet for example) 7) At the bottom of the expanded list after the layer info and all, click on the staff named Blank Staff. This is the change. 8) Change the transposition to Bb up M2 (for a trumpet for example) then click on Device JABB 3. Click on Sound And select the mute you want. If you don't see a JABB option under the Device listing send me an email and I'll send you the SoundMap. Justin Phillips Notation Product Specialist MakeMusic, Inc On Oct 8, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Mark McCarron wrote: I was hoping this command would solve the problem of switching brass mutes. However the only instruments available under this command are the Finale included ones, not the JABB instruments that I have installed. Fin2012 mac Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list [1]Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale References 1. mailto:Finale@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] change instrument
Thank you, Justin. This is the kind of process I had imagined might work. Of course, it requires access to the full JABB sounds, wherein you can find individual samples of various brass mutes. Experience with the unreliability of HP for this has discouraged me from using it. What you describe sounds worth trying. Thanks again, Chuck Sent from my iPhone On Oct 9, 2011, at 5:46 AM, Phillips, Justin jphill...@makemusic.com wrote: Try this as a workaround. I've submitted this as a feature request as well. Would it be helpful if the Change Instrument brought up a list of the sounds available instead, like in the ScoreManager? 1) Select the Selection Tool 2) Click where the change needs to be made 3) Go to Utilities Menu Change Instrument 4) Select Blank Staff Blank Staff 5) Go to Window Menu ScoreManager 6) Click the Arrow next to the Staff name (Trumpet for example) 7) At the bottom of the expanded list after the layer info and all, click on the staff named Blank Staff. This is the change. 8) Change the transposition to Bb up M2 (for a trumpet for example) then click on Device JABB 3. Click on Sound And select the mute you want. If you don't see a JABB option under the Device listing send me an email and I'll send you the SoundMap. Justin Phillips Notation Product Specialist MakeMusic, Inc On Oct 8, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Mark McCarron wrote: I was hoping this command would solve the problem of switching brass mutes. However the only instruments available under this command are the Finale included ones, not the JABB instruments that I have installed. Fin2012 mac Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list [1]Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale References 1. mailto:Finale@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] change instrument
We have SoundMaps that function similar to the Setup Wizard but give much more functionality with the ScoreManager (making it so you really never have to go to the player to load or change a sound, and Finale knows you prefer to use JABB, etc). These will be on the Knowledge Base early next week, but if anyone wants them, let me know and I'll send them to you now. Justin Phillips Notation Product Specialist MakeMusic, Inc On Oct 9, 2011, at 7:46 AM, Phillips, Justin wrote: Try this as a workaround. I've submitted this as a feature request as well. Would it be helpful if the Change Instrument brought up a list of the sounds available instead, like in the ScoreManager? 1) Select the Selection Tool 2) Click where the change needs to be made 3) Go to Utilities Menu Change Instrument 4) Select Blank Staff Blank Staff 5) Go to Window Menu ScoreManager 6) Click the Arrow next to the Staff name (Trumpet for example) 7) At the bottom of the expanded list after the layer info and all, click on the staff named Blank Staff. This is the change. 8) Change the transposition to Bb up M2 (for a trumpet for example) then click on Device JABB 3. Click on Sound And select the mute you want. If you don't see a JABB option under the Device listing send me an email and I'll send you the SoundMap. Justin Phillips Notation Product Specialist MakeMusic, Inc On Oct 8, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Mark McCarron wrote: I was hoping this command would solve the problem of switching brass mutes. However the only instruments available under this command are the Finale included ones, not the JABB instruments that I have installed. Fin2012 mac Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list [1][1]Finale@shsu.edu [2]http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale References 1. [3]mailto:Finale@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list [4]Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale References 1. mailto:Finale@shsu.edu 2. http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale 3. mailto:Finale@shsu.edu 4. mailto:Finale@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] change instrument
thanks I'll try this. Mark McCarron From: Phillips, Justin jphill...@makemusic.com To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2011 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] change instrument Try this as a workaround. I've submitted this as a feature request as well. Would it be helpful if the Change Instrument brought up a list of the sounds available instead, like in the ScoreManager? 1) Select the Selection Tool 2) Click where the change needs to be made 3) Go to Utilities Menu Change Instrument 4) Select Blank Staff Blank Staff 5) Go to Window Menu ScoreManager 6) Click the Arrow next to the Staff name (Trumpet for example) 7) At the bottom of the expanded list after the layer info and all, click on the staff named Blank Staff. This is the change. 8) Change the transposition to Bb up M2 (for a trumpet for example) then click on Device JABB 3. Click on Sound And select the mute you want. If you don't see a JABB option under the Device listing send me an email and I'll send you the SoundMap. Justin Phillips Notation Product Specialist MakeMusic, Inc On Oct 8, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Mark McCarron wrote: I was hoping this command would solve the problem of switching brass mutes. However the only instruments available under this command are the Finale included ones, not the JABB instruments that I have installed. Fin2012 mac Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list [1]Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale References 1. mailto:Finale@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] font hell
In setup wizard I didn't see Finale font as an option, so I installed the postscript fonts that I'd skipped in my original install of fin2012 mac. (Bad idea) Now my existing charts done in Broadway font are a mess. (The engraver font charts are fine)How do I go back? Mark McCarron From: Mark McCarron mmcg...@yahoo.com To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2011 11:15 PM Subject: [Finale] change instrument I was hoping this command would solve the problem of switching brass mutes. However the only instruments available under this command are the Finale included ones, not the JABB instruments that I have installed. Fin2012 mac Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] change instrument
I think you can do this without keyswitching as JABB has separate samples for open horn and various mutes. Mark McCarron From: Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2011 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] change instrument Thank you, Justin. This is the kind of process I had imagined might work. Of course, it requires access to the full JABB sounds, wherein you can find individual samples of various brass mutes. Experience with the unreliability of HP for this has discouraged me from using it. What you describe sounds worth trying. Thanks again, Chuck Sent from my iPhone On Oct 9, 2011, at 5:46 AM, Phillips, Justin jphill...@makemusic.com wrote: Try this as a workaround. I've submitted this as a feature request as well. Would it be helpful if the Change Instrument brought up a list of the sounds available instead, like in the ScoreManager? 1) Select the Selection Tool 2) Click where the change needs to be made 3) Go to Utilities Menu Change Instrument 4) Select Blank Staff Blank Staff 5) Go to Window Menu ScoreManager 6) Click the Arrow next to the Staff name (Trumpet for example) 7) At the bottom of the expanded list after the layer info and all, click on the staff named Blank Staff. This is the change. 8) Change the transposition to Bb up M2 (for a trumpet for example) then click on Device JABB 3. Click on Sound And select the mute you want. If you don't see a JABB option under the Device listing send me an email and I'll send you the SoundMap. Justin Phillips Notation Product Specialist MakeMusic, Inc On Oct 8, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Mark McCarron wrote: I was hoping this command would solve the problem of switching brass mutes. However the only instruments available under this command are the Finale included ones, not the JABB instruments that I have installed. Fin2012 mac Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list [1]Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale References 1. mailto:Finale@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] font hell
Try this: [1]http://makemusic.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1726 Justin Phillips Notation Product Specialist MakeMusic, Inc On Oct 9, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Mark McCarron wrote: In setup wizard I didn't see Finale font as an option, so I installed the postscript fonts that I'd skipped in my original install of fin2012 mac. (Bad idea) Now my existing charts done in Broadway font are a mess. (The engraver font charts are fine)How do I go back? Mark McCarron From: Mark McCarron [2]mmcg...@yahoo.com To: [3]finale@shsu.edu [4]finale@shsu.edu Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2011 11:15 PM Subject: [Finale] change instrument I was hoping this command would solve the problem of switching brass mutes. However the only instruments available under this command are the Finale included ones, not the JABB instruments that I have installed. Fin2012 mac Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list [5]Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale References 1. http://makemusic.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1726 2. mailto:mmcg...@yahoo.com 3. mailto:finale@shsu.edu 4. mailto:finale@shsu.edu 5. mailto:Finale@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] change instrument
Hi Justin I don't see a JABB option under the Device listing. I do see aria player. Mark McCarron From: Phillips, Justin jphill...@makemusic.com To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2011 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] change instrument Try this as a workaround. I've submitted this as a feature request as well. Would it be helpful if the Change Instrument brought up a list of the sounds available instead, like in the ScoreManager? 1) Select the Selection Tool 2) Click where the change needs to be made 3) Go to Utilities Menu Change Instrument 4) Select Blank Staff Blank Staff 5) Go to Window Menu ScoreManager 6) Click the Arrow next to the Staff name (Trumpet for example) 7) At the bottom of the expanded list after the layer info and all, click on the staff named Blank Staff. This is the change. 8) Change the transposition to Bb up M2 (for a trumpet for example) then click on Device JABB 3. Click on Sound And select the mute you want. If you don't see a JABB option under the Device listing send me an email and I'll send you the SoundMap. Justin Phillips Notation Product Specialist MakeMusic, Inc On Oct 8, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Mark McCarron wrote: I was hoping this command would solve the problem of switching brass mutes. However the only instruments available under this command are the Finale included ones, not the JABB instruments that I have installed. Fin2012 mac Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list [1]Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale References 1. mailto:Finale@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Harp question
Oh, how I hate repeat figure slashes. Write the damn chord out again -- it won't hurt. Patrick J. M. Sheehan patricksheehanmu...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: Pierre Bailleul [mailto:pierrebaill...@free.fr] Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 5:13 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Harp question I don't think so because the thin slash is always between 2 or 4 notes not above or below them like a repeat slash. -Message d'origine- From: Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 10:08 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Harp question Is it not just repeat the chord? Sent from my iPhone On 5 Oct 2011, at 08:31 AM, Pierre Bailleul pierrebaill...@free.fr wrote: Hi all, Do you know the signification of a thin slash on a stem between 2 or 4 notes on harp chord? Thanks in advance. Pierre ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Harp question
At 02:26 PM 10/9/2011, you wrote: Oh, how I hate repeat figure slashes. Write the damn chord out again -- it won't hurt. It seems like tremolo. Same as for string players. Dana ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Review
Thanks for this, Jari. Does anyone know if Fin2012 is compatible with TGTools? Several of those plug-ins are absolutely critical to my workflow. For several reasons, I'm still on Fin2004; I'm considering upgrading, but only if I can still use TGTools. Any info on this yet? Any idea whether Tobias is no longer supporting his software? -Lee Lee Actor Composer-in-Residence and Assistant Conductor, Palo Alto Philharmonic http://www.leeactor.com Hello! My Finale 2012 Review (with some tips) is now available on the Finale Tips site: www.finaletips.nu Let me know if you spot any errors regarding words, spelling, information, etc. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Review
I am using TG Tools successfully with Finale 2012. You must remember to make a copy of your TG Tools pkg file (in your plugins folder Library/Application Support/MakeMusic/Finale 2011/Plug-ins and move it to the same location in the Finale 2012 Application Support folder. I think you also need to remove the text copy from you copy, but I'm not sure. Anyway, be reassured, it works. Chuck On Oct 9, 2011, at 5:02 PM, Lee Actor wrote: Thanks for this, Jari. Does anyone know if Fin2012 is compatible with TGTools? Several of those plug-ins are absolutely critical to my workflow. For several reasons, I'm still on Fin2004; I'm considering upgrading, but only if I can still use TGTools. Any info on this yet? Any idea whether Tobias is no longer supporting his software? -Lee Lee Actor Composer-in-Residence and Assistant Conductor, Palo Alto Philharmonic http://www.leeactor.com Hello! My Finale 2012 Review (with some tips) is now available on the Finale Tips site: www.finaletips.nu Let me know if you spot any errors regarding words, spelling, information, etc. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 1310 NW Naito Parkway #807 Portland, OR 97209-316 land line: (971) 255-1167 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Harp question
At 1:26 PM -0500 10/9/11, Patrick Sheehan wrote: Oh, how I hate repeat figure slashes. Write the damn chord out again -- it won't hurt. Patrick J. M. Sheehan patricksheehanmu...@gmail.com They're actually easier to read. Especially to sightread. You don't have to concentrate in case there's an unexpected changes that's hidden among on the noteheads. But I didn't think the discussion was about repeat slashes. John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music School of Performing Arts Cinema College of Liberal Arts Human Sciences 290 College Ave., Blacksburg, Virginia 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html Machen Sie es, wie Sie wollen, machen Sie es nur schön. (Do it as you like, just make it beautiful!) --Johannes Brahms ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
