Re: [Finale] Changing patches in the new Finale 2012 world

2012-01-30 Thread Robert Patterson
So I have been pursuing my issue of non-playback of pizz and arco
expressions with MakeMusic and finally came to understand that Human
Playback doesn't work with spacebar playback. Once I opened the playback
controls, I could hear the timbre changes.

I am a bit miffed by this. I guess Human Playback has never been supported
with spacebar playback, but if MM is going to push everyone towards it, it
feels like an arbitrary takeaway. I have to now figure out how to regress
to SmartSynth if I want to be able to hear simple sound changes without
having to cope with playback controls on screen. I just want to be able to
click on a bar and hear it play without a lot of hoop jumping.

Someone explain to me why I am being a baby, because right now I am kind of
upset.
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Re: [Finale] Changing patches in the new Finale 2012 world

2012-01-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Robert,

I'm not quite understanding what you mean by spacebar playback. You can start 
and stop playback using the spacebar whenever the Playback Controls window is 
open, and Human Playback works fine. (If screen clutter is an issue for you, 
you can drag all but the edge of the window offscreen and playback is still 
started and stopped with the spacebar). 

When the window is closed, the spacebar does nothing. I don't even know how 
you'd initiate playback without the playback window open.

Cheers,

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On 30 Jan 2012, at 1:06 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:

 So I have been pursuing my issue of non-playback of pizz and arco
 expressions with MakeMusic and finally came to understand that Human
 Playback doesn't work with spacebar playback. Once I opened the playback
 controls, I could hear the timbre changes.
 
 I am a bit miffed by this. I guess Human Playback has never been supported
 with spacebar playback, but if MM is going to push everyone towards it, it
 feels like an arbitrary takeaway. I have to now figure out how to regress
 to SmartSynth if I want to be able to hear simple sound changes without
 having to cope with playback controls on screen. I just want to be able to
 click on a bar and hear it play without a lot of hoop jumping.
 
 Someone explain to me why I am being a baby, because right now I am kind of
 upset.
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Re: [Finale] Changing patches in the new Finale 2012 world

2012-01-30 Thread Aaron Sherber
Hi Darcy,

I'm guessing that Robert is talking about Spacebar-click playback. If 
you hold down the spacebar and click a measure, playback will start 
there, but without Human Playback. There's also Ctrl-spacebar scrubbing 
playback, which lets you play back a section forwards or backwards as 
you drag your mouse across it. Unfortunately, there's a longstanding bug 
in scrubbing playback which often causes Finale to play back the first 
chord of a piece as you drag over a barline.

Aaron.
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Re: [Finale] Nice Present (ACTUALLY from Michael Wittenburg)

2012-01-30 Thread DeliusFan
My apologies to everyone; I go to work and come back and I apparently have  
emailed the world.  If only I could be so productive.  Please do not  open 
the link.  I have since changed my password, so my account is again  secure.
 
A funny last thought is I had people email me whom I hadn't heard from in  
ages.  Amazing how a spam email can help reestablish contact with people  
you've lost touch with.  
 
Back to matters Finale...
Michael
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Re: [Finale] Changing patches in the new Finale 2012 world

2012-01-30 Thread Robert Patterson
With the playback controls open, when I hit space playback starts where the
playback window thinks it should start, not where I click.

On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Aaron Sherber aa...@sherber.com wrote:

 Hi Darcy,

 I'm guessing that Robert is talking about Spacebar-click playback. If
 you hold down the spacebar and click a measure, playback will start
 there, but without Human Playback. There's also Ctrl-spacebar scrubbing
 playback, which lets you play back a section forwards or backwards as
 you drag your mouse across it. Unfortunately, there's a longstanding bug
 in scrubbing playback which often causes Finale to play back the first
 chord of a piece as you drag over a barline.

 Aaron.
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Re: [Finale] Changing patches in the new Finale 2012 world

2012-01-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Aaron,

I never knew this feature existed!

I agree it would be sensible to at least allow the option for spacebar-click 
playback to use Human Playback.

Meanwhile, Robert, you can use the Apply Human Playback plugin to write the HP 
data into the file, so that playback with HP off sounds the same as playback 
with HP on (including pizz./arco changes etc). Of course, if you make any 
significant changes, you'll need to use the plugin again to clear, and then 
re-apply HP data, but the plugin might be a reasonable solution for your 
situation.

Or if the only thing you want is pizz. vs. arco, without any other Human 
Playback interpretation, it should also be possible for you to customize 
Fin2012's Change Instrument feature to get what you want.

Cheers,

- DJA
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On 30 Jan 2012, at 1:38 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote:

 Hi Darcy,
 
 I'm guessing that Robert is talking about Spacebar-click playback. If 
 you hold down the spacebar and click a measure, playback will start 
 there, but without Human Playback. There's also Ctrl-spacebar scrubbing 
 playback, which lets you play back a section forwards or backwards as 
 you drag your mouse across it. Unfortunately, there's a longstanding bug 
 in scrubbing playback which often causes Finale to play back the first 
 chord of a piece as you drag over a barline.
 
 Aaron.
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Re: [Finale] Changing patches in the new Finale 2012 world

2012-01-30 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 1/30/2012 1:45 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:
 With the playback controls open, when I hit space playback starts where the
 playback window thinks it should start, not where I click.

Not for me in Windows -- spacebar playback works as it always has, with 
or without the playback window open.

Aaron.
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Re: [Finale] Changing patches in the new Finale 2012 world

2012-01-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
I have always used the Playback Region: From: Leftmost Measure setting. I never 
knew there was another option! But with a Magic Mouse or Magic Trackpad, 
horizontal scrolling is so easy that I think I'd still prefer that method to 
spacebar-clicking a particular measure.

The ability to instantly and temporarily solo a staff without having to visit 
the Score Manager is great, though. As I said, I see no reason why this type of 
playback couldn't be able to incorporate HP. (Obviously, scrubbing can't and 
shouldn't support HP.)

Cheers,

- DJA
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On 30 Jan 2012, at 1:45 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:

 With the playback controls open, when I hit space playback starts where the
 playback window thinks it should start, not where I click.
 
 On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Aaron Sherber aa...@sherber.com wrote:
 
 Hi Darcy,
 
 I'm guessing that Robert is talking about Spacebar-click playback. If
 you hold down the spacebar and click a measure, playback will start
 there, but without Human Playback. There's also Ctrl-spacebar scrubbing
 playback, which lets you play back a section forwards or backwards as
 you drag your mouse across it. Unfortunately, there's a longstanding bug
 in scrubbing playback which often causes Finale to play back the first
 chord of a piece as you drag over a barline.
 
 Aaron.
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