[Finale] MuseGraph - Make a font!
FYI, this is a freeware font project from MuseScore (=Georges, who created the excellent music fonts Vienna, Stockholm, Olslo, etc.) http://www.musegraph.com/2012/04/17/make-a-font/ Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Awkward key signature menu
At 4:12 PM +0100 4/19/12, Steve Parker wrote: >'Melodic minor' is neither a key nor a mode. It >is a melodic or harmonic choice within a minor >key (or momentary minor key). Which is to say that it's a variation of the natural minor scale (also known as Glarean's Aeolian mode). And so is the harmonic minor, of course. But what matters to a performer (at least to a string player) is the scale fingering, so for us there really ARE three choices, whatever labels you care to hang on them. And rather few common practice period works actually USE the natural minor because of a desire to hear those silly leading tones. John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music School of Performing Arts & Cinema College of Liberal Arts & Human Sciences 290 College Ave., Blacksburg, Virginia 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html "Machen Sie es, wie Sie wollen, machen Sie es nur schön." (Do it as you like, just make it beautiful!) --Johannes Brahms ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Awkward key signature menu
'Melodic minor' is neither a key nor a mode. It is a melodic or harmonic choice within a minor key (or momentary minor key). Steve P. On 19 Apr 2012, at 14:13, bill sinclair wrote: > You could set up up a "non-standard" key signature for melodic minor, > for > instance for G melodic minor, use F#, and B flat. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] awkward key signature menu (correction)
At 9:29 AM -0400 4/19/12, bill sinclair wrote: >Actually, for G harmonic minor you would use B flat and F sharp. >For melodic minor, you would use just E flat, >and for the "natural" minor, use B and E flat. > >When you say G minor, there is a lot of ambiguity, since there are 3 >possible choices. >That's why I think it's better NOT to give it a name. Actually for melodic minor you use E natural and F# ascending, F natural and Eb descending. And yes, the ambiguity is what makes minor keys more interesting and "richer" than major keys--which baroque composers certainly knew perfectly well. Plus, of course, they often notated minor keys with one less flat that we now consider "proper," since the tradition was to treat them as transposed Dorian mode. So they actually added MORE accidentals than we would. But for playing in notes, G minor definitely needs both Eb and F# available, and not D# or Gb as defaults. John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music School of Performing Arts & Cinema College of Liberal Arts & Human Sciences 290 College Ave., Blacksburg, Virginia 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html "Machen Sie es, wie Sie wollen, machen Sie es nur schön." (Do it as you like, just make it beautiful!) --Johannes Brahms ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Awkward key signature menu
I would rather it made more distinctions. I would like hitting the 9 key to change to the key and mode first without trying seven exotic options before an Eb major triad. I would also like 'prefer flats' or 'prefer sharps' to be expanded to 'prefer G minor' etc. Steve P. On 18 Apr 2012, at 17:57, John Howell wrote: >> When you request a key signature, it makes a distinction between a >> major key and a minor key with the exact same pattern of sharps and >> flats. For example, they call C minor a DIFFERENT key signature than E >> flat major. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] awkward key signature menu (correction)
But there aren't three choices.. All three are identical in preferring Eb over D#, Bb over A# and F# over Gb. The order of likelihood of any spelling is the same. Steve P. On 19 Apr 2012, at 14:29, bill sinclair wrote: > Actually, for G harmonic minor you would use B flat and F sharp. > For melodic minor, you would use just E flat, > and for the "natural" minor, use B and E flat. > > When you say G minor, there is a lot of ambiguity, since there are 3 > possible choices. > That's why I think it's better NOT to give it a name. > > bill sinclair > billsi...@aol.com > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] awkward key signature menu (correction)
Actually, for G harmonic minor you would use B flat and F sharp. For melodic minor, you would use just E flat, and for the "natural" minor, use B and E flat. When you say G minor, there is a lot of ambiguity, since there are 3 possible choices. That's why I think it's better NOT to give it a name. bill sinclair billsi...@aol.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] tuplets defined per staff
You probably need to mess with the bracket settings in Tuplet Mover. The plugins attempts to maintain a constant bracket position relative to numbers, but exactly how it looks depends on the combination of default tuplet settings and TM bracket settings. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Pierre Bailleul wrote: > Hi all, > I use your plug-in to set tuplets automatically over vocal music. > I can adjust numbers (auto-position/stem-side distance but i can't move > brackets with numbers which are frequently too closed with beams or > accidentals. Do you know a way to do this (or if possible a picture capture > of tuplet mover) ? > Pierre > > -Message d'origine- > From: Robert Patterson > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:18 PM > To: finale@SHSU.EDU > Subject: Re: [Finale] tuplets defined per staff > > My Tuplet Mover plugin can do this (with 2 passes). But you will have to > turn off the "engraver tuplet" options for it work with them. > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Giovanni Andreani < > i...@giovanniandreani.eu> wrote: > > > A very interesting feature, this would be! I haven't got this need at the > > moment but would like to see if there is a solution too. > > > > Giovanni > > > > > > > > > > Giovanni Andreani > > > > www.giovanniandreani.eu > > > > >Hi list, > > >I prefer to have tuplet brackets on the stem side, except for vocal > music > > >where I prefer to have them always above the staff in order to avoid > > >lyrics. In the piano vocal score I'm working on now, is there a way to > > >define tuplets in the vocal staff to automatically be placed above the > > >staff but still have the piano staves place tuplets on the stem side? > > >I know I can mass edit the tuplets with the selection tool, but it's > > taking > > >too many extra steps. A one-click setting would be ideal. > > >This document is in Fin Mac 2010. > > >Thanks > > >Ryan > > >___ > > >Finale mailing list > > >Finale@shsu.edu > > >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > > > > > ___ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] tuplets defined per staff
Hi all, I use your plug-in to set tuplets automatically over vocal music. I can adjust numbers (auto-position/stem-side distance but i can't move brackets with numbers which are frequently too closed with beams or accidentals. Do you know a way to do this (or if possible a picture capture of tuplet mover) ? Pierre -Message d'origine- From: Robert Patterson Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:18 PM To: finale@SHSU.EDU Subject: Re: [Finale] tuplets defined per staff My Tuplet Mover plugin can do this (with 2 passes). But you will have to turn off the "engraver tuplet" options for it work with them. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Giovanni Andreani < i...@giovanniandreani.eu> wrote: > A very interesting feature, this would be! I haven't got this need at the > moment but would like to see if there is a solution too. > > Giovanni > > > > > Giovanni Andreani > > www.giovanniandreani.eu > > >Hi list, > >I prefer to have tuplet brackets on the stem side, except for vocal music > >where I prefer to have them always above the staff in order to avoid > >lyrics. In the piano vocal score I'm working on now, is there a way to > >define tuplets in the vocal staff to automatically be placed above the > >staff but still have the piano staves place tuplets on the stem side? > >I know I can mass edit the tuplets with the selection tool, but it's > taking > >too many extra steps. A one-click setting would be ideal. > >This document is in Fin Mac 2010. > >Thanks > >Ryan > >___ > >Finale mailing list > >Finale@shsu.edu > >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Quarter Tone Playback
Hello All, Regarding the "Is FINALE worth continuing?" thread, this list forum has been very helpful. I am not a professional engraver orcopyist but I use Finale everyday and read these posts regularly. I’m writing today because I would like to learn how to getFinale to play back quarter tones. I use Finale 2011 on a Mac, version 10.6. A friend sent me a .mus file that display quarter tonenotation and when I open it, the file plays it back correctly. I copied the quarter tone symbols (partof expression tools) into a string quartet I am composing but the quarter tonesdo not play back. My score doesnot use a particular key signature. Please let me know how I may correct this. With appreciation, Bruce ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Awkward key signature menu
I thought about the enharmonic spelling issue - - You could set up up a "non-standard" key signature for melodic minor, for instance for G melodic minor, use F#, and B flat. That is the only place I can think of where major or minor might be treated differently. But another way to handle it would be another box saying "major" or "minor." bill sinclair billsi...@aol.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 2012 vs 2010
On Thu Apr 19, at ThursdayApr 19 2:14 AM, dershem wrote: > > The only option I would like that 2010 doesn't have is to hide staves in > the piano part, and I am used to doing that with a T-square and x-acto > knife. > > Carl Hi Carl, I know that the piano group is set by default to NOT allow optimisation, but you can edit the group to allow optimisation normally in the part. This hasn't changed for a very long time. Now, of course, in 2012 it's called "hide empty staves" instead of "optimisation" but the principle (and the restriction!) are the same. Please, put down the knife! Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] tuplets defined per staff
My Tuplet Mover plugin can do this (with 2 passes). But you will have to turn off the "engraver tuplet" options for it work with them. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Giovanni Andreani < i...@giovanniandreani.eu> wrote: > A very interesting feature, this would be! I haven't got this need at the > moment but would like to see if there is a solution too. > > Giovanni > > > > > Giovanni Andreani > > www.giovanniandreani.eu > > >Hi list, > >I prefer to have tuplet brackets on the stem side, except for vocal music > >where I prefer to have them always above the staff in order to avoid > >lyrics. In the piano vocal score I'm working on now, is there a way to > >define tuplets in the vocal staff to automatically be placed above the > >staff but still have the piano staves place tuplets on the stem side? > >I know I can mass edit the tuplets with the selection tool, but it's > taking > >too many extra steps. A one-click setting would be ideal. > >This document is in Fin Mac 2010. > >Thanks > >Ryan > >___ > >Finale mailing list > >Finale@shsu.edu > >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 2012 vs 2010
> >> "Extract Parts" would NOT save as [filename+partname+ whatevr] - I > >> had to manually name each part. > >There is a standard option for extracting parts, and it has been >there for many years. It existed as a menu option but never worked. i think i have extracted parts maybe once since the (admittedly faulty) implementation of linked parts (F2007), but just had a quick look at the dialogue in 2010. what is the issue you are having exactly? i just tried this and it seems to work fine. >If it consistently does the wrong thing, it's a bug. I could send >you files, but instead I will just revert to 2010, which works just >fine. well, if there are such serious bugs as you mention they should also be checked and documented, and sent to MM. i would encourage you to send the file to christopher for checking. >The only option I would like that 2010 doesn't have is to hide >staves in the piano part, and I am used to doing that with a >T-square and x-acto knife. hein?!?! once the system is optimized you can remove any staff by selecting the lower handle at the start of the staff (staff tool) and "deleting" it (from appearing in the system). despite my own criticisms of the programme i have never come across something that could not be resolved somehow in the file itself. knife and ruler... sheesh, sounds so... 1980s. notation in the dark ages, barbaric =-O >>It is just FULL of bugs and errors. 2010 works, 2012 does not - it >>takes more effort to do what 2010 did effortlessly. could you list a few more of these bugs? cheers, jef ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 2012 vs 2010
In 2012 is it now possible to add new instruments (like horn in D or horn in E) to the instrument list so that you can use them in future projects? Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
