[Finale] Finale Numerics issues

2012-07-01 Thread Andrew Levin
Hi, all,

I was about to write about all of my problems with the Finale Numerics font 
when, lo and behold, the 2012b update seems to have fixed them. But I still 
have two issues with the font that I wanted to share, to see if anyone else has 
the same issues I have. I plan to submit them as a feature request.

Note that these are requests of a music theory teacher. You may not need these 
changes.

1) There is no lower case m in the new font. This is important when doing a 
roman numeral analysis. The first thing to do is to note the key, followed by 
the roman numerals. For minor keys I strongly prefer Am to a for A minor. 
You can't do this in the Finale Numerics font. You have to either do the key as 
an expression, or do it as a lyric, but by changing the font. A pain. And I 
don't see that MakeMusic will change it, as all slots for the letter M are 
now taken.

2) The capital I and V are not as they appear when writing by hand. Imagine 
yourself writing by hand a IV chord: you do the capital I and the capital V, 
then draw a horizontal line at the top and bottom of this figure. That helps it 
stand out in comparison with the lower case numbers. But it's also problematic 
in another way: students see the IV in print (in my exercises) and then write 
it that way, without the top and bottom bars. Oh, sure, I'll tell them to make 
sure to put in the bars, but I'm not providing a very good example for them.

Anyone else bothered by these?

Andrew Levin
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Re: [Finale] Finale Numerics issues

2012-07-01 Thread Christopher Smith
Hi Andrew,

1. This doesn't bother me, because we use the a for minor in our  
classical theory classes. In jazz, it would bother me. I agree that  
it should be available.

2. Well, really the bars across the top and bottom are shorthand for  
putting serifs on the capital letters, to distinguish them from lower  
case that don't have the serifs. If the font already has serifs on  
the capital letters, that should do it. On lined paper, of course,  
the height of the I and the V are the giveaways (that's why we don't  
NEED serifs in computer type) but writing freehand on unlined paper  
we need a way to tell them apart. Just tell your students to use the  
bars when writing manuscript, like every other theory teacher has to  
say. Maybe a font with extra-Roman serifs would help, but I'm okay  
with things as they are.

When I hand out examples of analysis, I usually write in all the  
analysis with a fine black felt pen to REALLY distinguish it from the  
actual provided music. Putting in engraved analysis I find confuses  
them as to what they need to provide, because they can't distinguish  
it from the music.

Christopher


On 1-Jul-12, at 1-Jul-12  5:40 PM, Andrew Levin wrote:

 Hi, all,

 I was about to write about all of my problems with the Finale  
 Numerics font when, lo and behold, the 2012b update seems to have  
 fixed them. But I still have two issues with the font that I wanted  
 to share, to see if anyone else has the same issues I have. I plan  
 to submit them as a feature request.

 Note that these are requests of a music theory teacher. You may not  
 need these changes.

 1) There is no lower case m in the new font. This is important  
 when doing a roman numeral analysis. The first thing to do is to  
 note the key, followed by the roman numerals. For minor keys I  
 strongly prefer Am to a for A minor. You can't do this in the  
 Finale Numerics font. You have to either do the key as an  
 expression, or do it as a lyric, but by changing the font. A pain.  
 And I don't see that MakeMusic will change it, as all slots for the  
 letter M are now taken.

 2) The capital I and V are not as they appear when writing by hand.  
 Imagine yourself writing by hand a IV chord: you do the capital I  
 and the capital V, then draw a horizontal line at the top and  
 bottom of this figure. That helps it stand out in comparison with  
 the lower case numbers. But it's also problematic in another way:  
 students see the IV in print (in my exercises) and then write it  
 that way, without the top and bottom bars. Oh, sure, I'll tell them  
 to make sure to put in the bars, but I'm not providing a very good  
 example for them.

 Anyone else bothered by these?

 Andrew Levin
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