Re: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure

[Giovanni Andreani]

Thank you Klaus, this solution looks interesting to, I'll be trying today. It's 
weird though that Finale can't properly handle all this.

Giovanni Andreani

> On 17 Feb 2014, at 14:18, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre  
> wrote:
> 
> As sort of a courtesy clef indication? Never tried that before, but I might 
> imagine the road I would suggest:
> 
> In the online help facility find the keyboard equivalent for the bass clef in 
> your given music font, and create the bass clef as an expression.
> 
> By means of TGTools create space before the first note of the measure.
> 
> Place the bass clef expression manually at the beginning of the given measure.
> 
> Klaus
> 
> 
>> 
>> From: Giovanni Andreani 
>> To: ""  
>> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 12:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you Klaus. My problem si slightly different while I don't have to 
>> specify a new clef but just show up the existing one. In this case the clef 
>> appears after the time and key signature.
>> 
>> Giovanni Andreani
>> 
>>> On 17 Feb 2014, at 12:04, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Go to the Clef Tool (symbol is Bass Clef)
>>> 
>>> Select the passage that needs a new clef - may be partial or full measures 
>>> or combinations of full and partial measures
>>> 
>>> Right click the selected passage and click Select clef
>>> 
>>> The Clef Tool window comes up, where you may click the desired key
>>> 
>>> Please note that the number or letter in the brackets are the keyboard 
>>> shortcuts for the given clef.
>>> 
>>> Maybe this is more helpful:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Klaus
>>> 
>>> 
 
 From: Giovanni Andreani 
 Subject: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure
 
 
 Is there anyway to show a clef in a measure different from the first one, 
 with the key and time signatures also showing as if the measure was the 
 very first one?
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[Finale] Change beat value?

[Stephen Cronin]

Hello List,

FinMac 2014 (latest)
I have a passage in 12/16 including duplets and want to change the beat 
duration from dotted 8th to quarter note maintaining four beats per measure 
(4/4). If I use Utilities>Change Durations I end up with a mess because the 
duplets need to be two 8ths and 16ths should become triplets and Finale doesn't 
seem to understand that. Perhaps I've missed something?

A minor but niggling issue: back in the late 1990's the Shape Designer behaved 
as any good draw program. Holding down a modifier key (I think, the Shift key), 
one could constrain the ellipse or rectangle tools to draw perfect circles or 
squares...useful in designing modern notation symbols. Would anyone else find 
the reinstatement of this behaviour useful?

A further irritant I have mentioned before: With View>Show... Margins selected, 
the outside margins of the page, margins of each staff and centred 
vertical/horizontal lines appear. I find those vertical/horizontal lines really 
useful for a quick alignment of staves/text boxes etc when I'm creating class 
handouts. It would be most useful when using the Page Layout Tool. However, the 
vertical/horizontal lines are present in every tool except the Page Layout 
Tool...doesn't make sense!

Stephen


ars est longa,
vita brevis

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[Finale] Sibelius NotePerformer

[Ryan]

Anyone know anything about this?
http://www.noteperformer.com/?ref=fb
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Re: [Finale] TGTools for 2014

[Eric Dannewitz]

Did you put it in the MAIN library? ie: MacintoshHD/Library not the user 
library?

And did you make sure the older one isn't living in perhaps the users library?

I installed it just fine and it works great. I've now moved everything to 2014 
on my Macs.


On Feb 17, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Brian Williams  wrote:

> When I downloaded it and installed it on my system, it made a mess of the
> Plug-ins menu like before. Plus, the "Smart Explosion of multi-part
> stavesŠ" plug in doesn't work, like before. That's one of the main TGTools
> plug-ins that I rely upon.
> -Brian
> 
> On 2/17/14 10:00 AM, "Eric Dannewitz"  wrote:
> 
>> Seems like he updated them for Finale 2014. Whoohoo! Thanks Tobias
> 
> 
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Re: [Finale] TGTools for 2014

[Brian Williams]

When I downloaded it and installed it on my system, it made a mess of the
Plug-ins menu like before. Plus, the "Smart Explosion of multi-part
stavesŠ" plug in doesn't work, like before. That's one of the main TGTools
plug-ins that I rely upon.
-Brian

On 2/17/14 10:00 AM, "Eric Dannewitz"  wrote:

>Seems like he updated them for Finale 2014. Whoohoo! Thanks Tobias




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[Finale] Re(2): Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure

[Giovanni Andreani]

Thank you Christopher, your suggestion looks interesting, I'll try it out as 
soon as possible (tomorrow, I suppose) and, yes, it is a worksheet I'm 
creating, so no problems with measure numbers whatsoever!

Giovanni

PS there are still a few non conventional tasks I'd like Finale to accomplish 
and that seems it's not able to do but I'll eventually post a new topic.



Giovanni Andreani

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>I think the easiest way might be to create a blank measure after each
>clef indication, use Blank Notation staff style (to hide the default
>rest) and hide the barline. Then make the measure width zero. This would
>put a clef BEFORE the key signature, which would be in the second of the
>two measures. Measure numbering would be off by a factor of 2, but I
>would bet that you are creating an exercise sheet or example page, so
>that probably won't matter.
>
>Christopher
>
>
>On Mon Feb 17, at MondayFeb 17 8:18 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote:
>
>> As sort of a courtesy clef indication? Never tried that before, but I
>might imagine the road I would suggest:
>> 
>> In the online help facility find the keyboard equivalent for the bass
>clef in your given music font, and create the bass clef as an expression.
>> 
>> By means of TGTools create space before the first note of the measure.
>> 
>> Place the bass clef expression manually at the beginning of the given
>measure.
>> 
>> Klaus
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Giovanni Andreani 
>>> To: ""  
>>> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 12:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you Klaus. My problem si slightly different while I don't have
>to specify a new clef but just show up the existing one. In this case
>the clef appears after the time and key signature.
>>> 
>>> Giovanni Andreani
>>> 
 On 17 Feb 2014, at 12:04, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
> wrote:
 
 Go to the Clef Tool (symbol is Bass Clef)
 
 Select the passage that needs a new clef - may be partial or full
>measures or combinations of full and partial measures
 
 Right click the selected passage and click Select clef
 
 The Clef Tool window comes up, where you may click the desired key
 
 Please note that the number or letter in the brackets are the
>keyboard shortcuts for the given clef.
 
 Maybe this is more helpful:
 
 Finale.htm#Finale/Tut4EditingYourMusic3.htm?Highlight=clef%20tool>
 
 
 Klaus
 
 
> 
> From: Giovanni Andreani 
> Subject: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure
> 
> 
> Is there anyway to show a clef in a measure different from the
>first one, with the key and time signatures also showing as if the
>measure was the very first one?
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[Finale] TGTools for Mac 2014 now online

[Randolph Peters]

TGTools for Finale Mac 2014 is now online!

http://www.tgtools.com/downdocs.htm

-Randolph Peters

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[Finale] JW Change v1.00 (coming soon)

[Jari Williamsson]

Hello!

JW Change version 1.00 will soon be available for download. Here's a 
video that displays the basic feature set. It might be of interest even 
to users who've run any older beta of the plug-in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhzcqvr_INE&hd=1


Best regards,

Jari Williamsson



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Re: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure

[Christopher Smith]

I think the easiest way might be to create a blank measure after each clef 
indication, use Blank Notation staff style (to hide the default rest) and hide 
the barline. Then make the measure width zero. This would put a clef BEFORE the 
key signature, which would be in the second of the two measures. Measure 
numbering would be off by a factor of 2, but I would bet that you are creating 
an exercise sheet or example page, so that probably won't matter.

Christopher


On Mon Feb 17, at MondayFeb 17 8:18 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote:

> As sort of a courtesy clef indication? Never tried that before, but I might 
> imagine the road I would suggest:
> 
> In the online help facility find the keyboard equivalent for the bass clef in 
> your given music font, and create the bass clef as an expression.
> 
> By means of TGTools create space before the first note of the measure.
> 
> Place the bass clef expression manually at the beginning of the given measure.
> 
> Klaus
> 
> 
>> 
>> From: Giovanni Andreani 
>> To: ""  
>> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 12:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you Klaus. My problem si slightly different while I don't have to 
>> specify a new clef but just show up the existing one. In this case the clef 
>> appears after the time and key signature.
>> 
>> Giovanni Andreani
>> 
>>> On 17 Feb 2014, at 12:04, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Go to the Clef Tool (symbol is Bass Clef)
>>> 
>>> Select the passage that needs a new clef - may be partial or full measures 
>>> or combinations of full and partial measures
>>> 
>>> Right click the selected passage and click Select clef
>>> 
>>> The Clef Tool window comes up, where you may click the desired key
>>> 
>>> Please note that the number or letter in the brackets are the keyboard 
>>> shortcuts for the given clef.
>>> 
>>> Maybe this is more helpful:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Klaus
>>> 
>>> 
 
 From: Giovanni Andreani 
 Subject: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure
 
 
 Is there anyway to show a clef in a measure different from the first one, 
 with the key and time signatures also showing as if the measure was the 
 very first one?
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Re: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure

[David H. Bailey]

On 2/17/2014 8:18 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote:
> As sort of a courtesy clef indication? Never tried that before, but I might 
> imagine the road I would suggest:
>
> In the online help facility find the keyboard equivalent for the bass clef in 
> your given music font, and create the bass clef as an expression.
>
> By means of TGTools create space before the first note of the measure.
>
> Place the bass clef expression manually at the beginning of the given measure.
>

The clef is easy to place using the Clef tool:
select the measure, then in the Clef Tool dialog select the current 
clef, set the size to be 100%, make sure the range is set to be only 
that measure, select Always Show and check "After Barline" and you will 
get the clef at full size between the barline and the first note.

The difficulty is if you also want the time signature and key signature 
to display -- then for some unknown reason Finale puts the clef sign 
following the Key and Time signatures, instead of before them.  And I 
can't see an easy way around that, unless you do what Klaus has 
suggested and add extra space and place the clef as an expression.




-- 
David H. Bailey
dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com
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Re: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

As sort of a courtesy clef indication? Never tried that before, but I might 
imagine the road I would suggest:

In the online help facility find the keyboard equivalent for the bass clef in 
your given music font, and create the bass clef as an expression.

By means of TGTools create space before the first note of the measure.

Place the bass clef expression manually at the beginning of the given measure.

Klaus


>
> From: Giovanni Andreani 
>To: ""  
>Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 12:36 PM
>Subject: Re: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure
> 
>
>Thank you Klaus. My problem si slightly different while I don't have to 
>specify a new clef but just show up the existing one. In this case the clef 
>appears after the time and key signature.
>
>Giovanni Andreani
>
>> On 17 Feb 2014, at 12:04, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Go to the Clef Tool (symbol is Bass Clef)
>> 
>> Select the passage that needs a new clef - may be partial or full measures 
>> or combinations of full and partial measures
>> 
>> Right click the selected passage and click Select clef
>> 
>> The Clef Tool window comes up, where you may click the desired key
>> 
>> Please note that the number or letter in the brackets are the keyboard 
>> shortcuts for the given clef.
>> 
>> Maybe this is more helpful:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Klaus
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Giovanni Andreani 
>>> Subject: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Is there anyway to show a clef in a measure different from the first one, 
>>> with the key and time signatures also showing as if the measure was the 
>>> very first one?
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Re: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure

[Giovanni Andreani]

Thank you Klaus. My problem si slightly different while I don't have to specify 
a new clef but just show up the existing one. In this case the clef appears 
after the time and key signature.

Giovanni Andreani

> On 17 Feb 2014, at 12:04, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre  
> wrote:
> 
> Go to the Clef Tool (symbol is Bass Clef)
> 
> Select the passage that needs a new clef - may be partial or full measures or 
> combinations of full and partial measures
> 
> Right click the selected passage and click Select clef
> 
> The Clef Tool window comes up, where you may click the desired key
> 
> Please note that the number or letter in the brackets are the keyboard 
> shortcuts for the given clef.
> 
> Maybe this is more helpful:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Klaus
> 
> 
>> 
>> From: Giovanni Andreani 
>> Subject: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure
>> 
>> 
>> Is there anyway to show a clef in a measure different from the first one, 
>> with the key and time signatures also showing as if the measure was the very 
>> first one?
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Re: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Go to the Clef Tool (symbol is Bass Clef)

Select the passage that needs a new clef - may be partial or full measures or 
combinations of full and partial measures

Right click the selected passage and click Select clef

The Clef Tool window comes up, where you may click the desired key

Please note that the number or letter in the brackets are the keyboard 
shortcuts for the given clef.

Maybe this is more helpful:




Klaus


>
> From: Giovanni Andreani 
>Subject: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure
> 
>
>Is there anyway to show a clef in a measure different from the first one, with 
>the key and time signatures also showing as if the measure was the very first 
>one?
>
>
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[Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure

[Giovanni Andreani]

Is there anyway to show a clef in a measure different from the first one, with 
the key and time signatures also showing as if the measure was the very first 
one?
If I'd want to show in each measure its clef, key signature and time signature 
how would I accomplish it?
When I try to do so I can get the key and time signature showing up through the 
measure attributes dialog box but the only way I can think to get the clef 
showing is by opening the change clef dialog box, select the clef, chose 
"always show clef", resize it at 100% and tick the "Place Clef After Barline" 
checkbox. Whatsoever, in this way, the clef appears after the key and the time 
signatures and not as the first item, as where it should be.
Any hint would be warmly appreciated!

Giovanni




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