[Finale] Re(2): Moving Overlapping Rests in Opposing Direction
Thank you Christopher, JW Change did it! And in the simplest way I handled the
issue!
Thanks again for the suggestion and thanks to JW: I know where my next donation
will be forwarded to.
Giovanni
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>color:white !important; } Not sure if this idea would work. Create the
>rest scenario only, in a further layer then copy that with the hide
>layer function.
>GJB
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>On Wednesday, June 8, 2016, 7:43 AM, Christopher Smith
> wrote:
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>I hear you about your rest issue. It is a real problem, especially in
>piano music, where the offset between two layers needs to be different
>from one passage to another, heck, even from one bar to another!
>
>My way of dealing with that was to use the usual layer offsets (+6 for
>stems up, -6 for stems down) as a baseline default and adjust individual
>rests on an as-needed basis. The Move Rests plugin is useful for large
>swathes of similar adjustments, but it doesn't differentiate between
>different rest values, which is what I think you need. Have you looked
>into JW Change? That might have something that will help. I found
>nothing in TG Tools Pro.
>
>I was going to suggest that maybe rest alterations could be copied from
>one measure to another the way stem and notehead alterations can, but I
>see no way to do that.
>
>Christopher
>
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>> On Jun 8, 2016, at 4:35 AM, Giovanni Andreani
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>> I'm back after a long-term forced separation with this list, and do
>really need someone's advice about an unusual graphic layout problem I
>incurred in and for which I havn't found any convenient solution.
>> Here's the issue: I have different duration rests in layers one and
>two overlapping; I haven't checked out the 'Adjust Floating Rests' for
>these two layers in Document Options because I need to have them
>floating at different steps from case to case, obviously within the same
>piece. Up to now, I have accomplished this effectively by using staff
>styles but, unfortunately, the Staff Setup window don't distinguish
>smaller rests than the half rest,only allowing to separate at various
>different distances, any combination between rests equal o bigger than
>the half rest while grouping all other small rests in one category named
>'Other Rests'. I found myself stuck when in the need to separate two
>differen rests smaller than the half rest, like a quarter rest and an
>eight rest; the staff style will move the two in the same direction
>while, in other cases, I was able to overlap two different staff styles
>placing the rests in opposite directions.
>>
>> Any hint?
>> Giovanni
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Re: [Finale] Moving Overlapping Rests in Opposing Direction
blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px
#715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white
!important; } Not sure if this idea would work. Create the rest scenario only,
in a further layer then copy that with the hide layer function.
GJB
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
On Wednesday, June 8, 2016, 7:43 AM, Christopher Smith
wrote:
I hear you about your rest issue. It is a real problem, especially in piano
music, where the offset between two layers needs to be different from one
passage to another, heck, even from one bar to another!
My way of dealing with that was to use the usual layer offsets (+6 for stems
up, -6 for stems down) as a baseline default and adjust individual rests on an
as-needed basis. The Move Rests plugin is useful for large swathes of similar
adjustments, but it doesn’t differentiate between different rest values, which
is what I think you need. Have you looked into JW Change? That might have
something that will help. I found nothing in TG Tools Pro.
I was going to suggest that maybe rest alterations could be copied from one
measure to another the way stem and notehead alterations can, but I see no way
to do that.
Christopher
> On Jun 8, 2016, at 4:35 AM, Giovanni Andreani
> wrote:
>
> I'm back after a long-term forced separation with this list, and do really
> need someone's advice about an unusual graphic layout problem I incurred in
> and for which I havn't found any convenient solution.
> Here's the issue: I have different duration rests in layers one and two
> overlapping; I haven't checked out the 'Adjust Floating Rests' for these two
> layers in Document Options because I need to have them floating at different
> steps from case to case, obviously within the same piece. Up to now, I have
> accomplished this effectively by using staff styles but, unfortunately, the
> Staff Setup window don't distinguish smaller rests than the half rest,only
> allowing to separate at various different distances, any combination between
> rests equal o bigger than the half rest while grouping all other small rests
> in one category named 'Other Rests'. I found myself stuck when in the need to
> separate two differen rests smaller than the half rest, like a quarter rest
> and an eight rest; the staff style will move the two in the same direction
> while, in other cases, I was able to overlap two different staff styles
> placing the rests in opposite directions.
>
> Any hint?
> Giovanni
>
>
>
>
> Giovanni Andreani
>
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Giovanni Andreani, composer, pianist and piano teacher, specialized in piano
pedagogy according to the Kodàly principles, also author of the Piano Method
Project (PMP)
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Re: [Finale] Moving Overlapping Rests in Opposing Direction
I hear you about your rest issue. It is a real problem, especially in piano music, where the offset between two layers needs to be different from one passage to another, heck, even from one bar to another! My way of dealing with that was to use the usual layer offsets (+6 for stems up, -6 for stems down) as a baseline default and adjust individual rests on an as-needed basis. The Move Rests plugin is useful for large swathes of similar adjustments, but it doesn’t differentiate between different rest values, which is what I think you need. Have you looked into JW Change? That might have something that will help. I found nothing in TG Tools Pro. I was going to suggest that maybe rest alterations could be copied from one measure to another the way stem and notehead alterations can, but I see no way to do that. Christopher > On Jun 8, 2016, at 4:35 AM, Giovanni Andreani > wrote: > > I'm back after a long-term forced separation with this list, and do really > need someone's advice about an unusual graphic layout problem I incurred in > and for which I havn't found any convenient solution. > Here's the issue: I have different duration rests in layers one and two > overlapping; I haven't checked out the 'Adjust Floating Rests' for these two > layers in Document Options because I need to have them floating at different > steps from case to case, obviously within the same piece. Up to now, I have > accomplished this effectively by using staff styles but, unfortunately, the > Staff Setup window don't distinguish smaller rests than the half rest,only > allowing to separate at various different distances, any combination between > rests equal o bigger than the half rest while grouping all other small rests > in one category named 'Other Rests'. I found myself stuck when in the need to > separate two differen rests smaller than the half rest, like a quarter rest > and an eight rest; the staff style will move the two in the same direction > while, in other cases, I was able to overlap two different staff styles > placing the rests in opposite directions. > > Any hint? > Giovanni > > > > > Giovanni Andreani > > www.giovanniandreani.com > www.ga-music.com > > www.facebook.com/MrAvenarius > www.twitter.com/MrAvenarius > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Moving Overlapping Rests in Opposing Direction
I think you'll have to tweak it manually in these cases, and I'd trust that better. R. On 8 June 2016 at 11:35, Giovanni Andreani wrote: > I'm back after a long-term forced separation with this list, and do really > need someone's advice about an unusual graphic layout problem I incurred in > and for which I havn't found any convenient solution. > Here's the issue: I have different duration rests in layers one and two > overlapping; I haven't checked out the 'Adjust Floating Rests' for these > two layers in Document Options because I need to have them floating at > different steps from case to case, obviously within the same piece. Up to > now, I have accomplished this effectively by using staff styles but, > unfortunately, the Staff Setup window don't distinguish smaller rests than > the half rest,only allowing to separate at various different distances, > any combination between rests equal o bigger than the half rest while > grouping all other small rests in one category named 'Other Rests'. I found > myself stuck when in the need to separate two differen rests smaller than > the half rest, like a quarter rest and an eight rest; the staff style will > move the two in the same direction while, in other cases, I was able to > overlap two different staff styles placing the rests in opposite directions. > > Any hint? > Giovanni > > > > > Giovanni Andreani > > www.giovanniandreani.com > www.ga-music.com > > www.facebook.com/MrAvenarius > www.twitter.com/MrAvenarius > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Moving Overlapping Rests in Opposing Direction
I'm back after a long-term forced separation with this list, and do really need someone's advice about an unusual graphic layout problem I incurred in and for which I havn't found any convenient solution. Here's the issue: I have different duration rests in layers one and two overlapping; I haven't checked out the 'Adjust Floating Rests' for these two layers in Document Options because I need to have them floating at different steps from case to case, obviously within the same piece. Up to now, I have accomplished this effectively by using staff styles but, unfortunately, the Staff Setup window don't distinguish smaller rests than the half rest,only allowing to separate at various different distances, any combination between rests equal o bigger than the half rest while grouping all other small rests in one category named 'Other Rests'. I found myself stuck when in the need to separate two differen rests smaller than the half rest, like a quarter rest and an eight rest; the staff style will move the two in the same direction while, in other cases, I was able to overlap two different staff styles placing the rests in opposite directions. Any hint? Giovanni Giovanni Andreani www.giovanniandreani.com www.ga-music.com www.facebook.com/MrAvenarius www.twitter.com/MrAvenarius ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
