Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.
I have been banging on about note-before-rhythm to them for years now, as I'm sure many others here have too. Now at last I can give Sibelius a red hot go. Will be interested to see how resizeable the dialog boxes too. Some of them are currently awful and Finale has this all over Sibelius. The typography features now are better than Finale's. This is an exciting upgrade! Matthew Sent from my iPhone On 28/07/2011, at 5:00 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi all, This is huge. The three fundamental UI problems I had with Sibelius (lack of scroll view, no pitch-before-rhythm entry, and those awful modal tool palettes) have now all been implemented. I can't see myself switching entirely unless my hand was forced, but it's encouraging that Sibelius seems to be bending over backwards to make the transition easier for Finale users. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 27 Jul 2011, at 2:36 PM, David H. Bailey wrote: 2) note entry will now have allow pitch-first/rhythm-second in addition to the older rhythm-first/pitch-second that so many Finale users have found frustrating. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.
If you watch the video on the Sibelius site directed at Finale users, when changing from rhythm-before-pitch to pitch-before-rhythm, the note entry palette changes to the same values we are used to in Speedy. Sibelius have really gone to a lot of trouble to accommodate other ways of working. I will be thanking them for their efforts by using it. There is a place for us Speedy refugees now it seems. Matthew Sent from my iPhone On 28/07/2011, at 10:35 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi John, I meant an equivalent to Finale's Scroll View, i.e. Panorama. I'm aware that feature was introduced in an earlier version. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 27 Jul 2011, at 8:25 PM, John Howell wrote: At 3:00 PM -0400 7/27/11, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi all, This is huge. The three fundamental UI problems I had with Sibelius (lack of scroll view, no pitch-before-rhythm entry, and those awful modal tool palettes) have now all been implemented. Hi, Darcy. If you mean scroll bars on score pages, it's always been there and can be toggled on and off. If by scroll view you mean non-page view it's been available as Panorama since, I think, Sib 5. And I'm not sure what a modal tool palette is. But apparently the new entry mode really is a big deal for some people. It'll be interesting to see whether I'm more comfortable with it or not. John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music School of Performing Arts Cinema College of Liberal Arts Human Sciences Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html Machen es wie Sie wollen, machen es nur schön! (Do it as you like, just make it beautiful!) --Johannes Brahms ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] set velocity to zero
I think Jari made a plugin for that. Alternatively if on Mac go to Speedy Entry Tool, option click on the bar containing the note, press Next until the dialog box refers to the note you want to not play, and then click on the Playback checkbox. (this all from memory but it's not unstraightforward.) Matthew Sent from my iPhone On 17/06/2011, at 8:04 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. haroldoma...@gmail.com wrote: How do I get to mute just one note in playback? I did set the key velocity of the note I want muted to zero in the MIDI Tool window but the note still sounds during playback. Is there anything else I need to do so it will not play? Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
Me too. I have a 27 iMac with a 2nd 24 monitor attached in portrait mode. Worth every cent. Screen real estate is gold and improves productivity substantially. I have a laptop at work and it's almost painful in comparison. Matthew Sent from my iPhone On 24/05/2011, at 5:22 AM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: That's what I think too. I have a 27 iMac, and it is satisfying and trouble free. A little extra RAM can help. (Full disclosure - I've always used Macs and have little experience with Windows. Still, I am confident in giving this recommendation.) Chuck On May 23, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Get an iMac. -- Eric Dannewitz Musician/Polymath On Monday, May 23, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Lee Dengler wrote: Hi All, I need to purchase a new desktop computer. I am running Finale 2010 Windows at the present and will likely upgrade to 2012 when it comes out. I engrave full orchestrations and want to be able to play any and all of the sounds. I also want something that I will not outgrow in a few years. Any suggestions would greatly appreciated. Lee Dengler leedeng...@comcast.net Lee Dengler Consulting Editor, Jubilate Music Director, Goshen Community Chorale Minister of Music, College Mennonite Church Composer ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 1310 NW Naito Parkway #807 Portland, OR 97209-3162 phone: (503) 926-7952 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fwd: New plug-in: JW Make Finale Work Properly
Yeah, well, the situation was probably that the engraver had little to no time to do it, and wasn't paid that much, and there was no adequate proof reader on the publisher end with time to go over their work. Not that that's an acceptable excuse, espec for a big company like Peters, but it seems to be prevalent doesn't it. What I find surprising with my students is that there is so often a (wilful?) ignorance regarding score output, ie quality. I have seen some doozies lately, and the composers just shrug their shoulders as if Sibelius absolves them of all responsibility in this regard. /rant On the plus side, we have one extraordinarily talented young guy here in Sydney in the field of engraving, so not all is lost. Matthew Sent from my iPhone On 05/04/2011, at 4:35 PM, Jari Williamsson jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se wrote: On 2011-04-05 02:26, SN jef chippewa wrote: Next month: SuperJari presents a real and functioning GUI for Score. Sorry, that GUI will be delayed, since working on that eye-sight- test script for Sib users takes so much time. ;-) Unfortunatelly, it seems like I'll have to port this test to Finale as well: Today I'm going to rehearse Mahler's 6th with a new Mahler edition (C F Peters) from last year, with lifeless pages and so much laziness from the editor/engraver going on all over the pages. I'm not looking forward to play from this material. Apologies in advance to any on the list that might have worked on that Mahler material. I just think that because it becomes easier and easier to produce material that looks decent, you have to work even harder on really questioning the default output. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Staves (was: notation for synthesizer
What about harp parts? Anyone remove staves in those? Matthew Sent from my iPhone On 05/04/2011, at 8:32 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Steve, Yeah, there is basically no good reason not to remove empty staves on piano parts, other than mindless fidelity to tradition. And believe me, I understand that in certain contexts, mindless fidelity to tradition is exactly what's required! (As I said in my previous email, I would always make the piano parts in orchestral music grand staves, because orchestral pianists are *exactly* the kind of musicians to raise a snit about any deviation from the norm.) But the tide is definitely turning on this one. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 4 Apr 2011, at 6:12 PM, Steve Parker wrote: On 4 Apr 2011, at 21:11, Darcy James Argue wrote: It's of course fine to use a singe staff for piano parts as well Of course... but it is surprising how many piano (and synth) parts I play that have pages and pages with one stave of two empty! Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Feedback wanted: Rest spacing plug-in
As I recall, there is the Measure Width function in TGTools which gives some proportionality to bars rest and multi-bars rest. Works well - well it used to. Maybe what you're proposing takes this further. Matthew Sent from my iPhone On 30/01/2011, at 8:50 PM, Jari Williamsson jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se wrote: On 2011-01-29 23:35, David W. Fenton wrote: On 29 Jan 2011 at 21:56, Jari Williamsson wrote: I'm planning to create a plug-in to space full measure rests proportionally. The things that the plug-in should handle: * A full measure rests with long time signature should require more space than a full measure rest with a short time signature It seems to me, this only matters when you have mixed time signatures. When there's a single long time signature, I want the empty measures taking up as little space as possible, as long as it's still legible. Yes, this is for parts that mix time signatures a lot. Currently, a part that has full rests on one staff with 2/4, 7/4, 2/4, 7/4 becomes almost unreadable when all measures are of the same width. * A long multimeasure rests should require more space than a short multimeasure rest I find spacing of multimeasure rests problematic -- they don't respond to layout updates the way other measures do, and I find I often have to set them manually. They are almost always too wide in Finale's default spacing, but I don't know what rule I'd propose. I think the default behaviour in Finale has always(?) been to set it to 360 EVPUs, regardless of how many measure rests. One thing I would say is that there should be a ceiling on how wide the multi-measure rest ever gets, rather than width proportional to the number of measures. While a 6-measure rest should be wider than a 2-measure rest, I don't think a 24-measure rest should be wider than a 12-measure rest, certainly not twice as wide. I agree about a ceiling. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: historical analogy
I remember some years ago seeing a collection of 100 different recordings/arrangements of Gershwin's 'Summertime' that had been done by a variety of folks since its composition. Matthew Sent from my iPhone On 29/01/2011, at 1:32 AM, Richard Yates rich...@yatesguitar.com wrote: No Finale content here (except that I am writing an article that includes a score and examples done in Finale). Thomas Crecquillon wrote Ung Gay Bergier (A Happy Shepherd?) in the first half of the 16th century. It became one of the greatest hits of the next few decades inspiring nearly three dozen known versions for keyboard and lute. For instance, Simone Molinaro published an elaborated intabulation for lute more than 50 years later. By analogy, in the 21st century, what is today's equivalent of Ung Gay Bergier, i.e. a piece of music decades old that is a favorite for recasting in new arrangements? Richard Yates ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
