Re: [Finale] Guido OT

2007-11-10 Thread Carl Dershem

Leigh Daniels wrote:

Because it's the National Post, I'll bet the producer of the note is
well-known Canadian trumpeter Guido Basso.

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On Fri, Nov 9, 2007, Margaret whitby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Twice in recent weeks one of the clues in The National Post  (Canada)  
crossword puzzle has been  --" Guido's highest note".  In my ignorance 
I assumed that he was an opera singer that I'd never heard of.  I'm 
sure that John Howell and some others must know the answer!  thanks, 
Margaret Whitby


Basso is better known as a flugelhorn player, and is a master.  But high 
notes?  Not really his thing.


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Re(2): [Finale] Guido OT

2007-11-10 Thread Leigh Daniels
Given that I used to watch Guido in Detroit on Canadian TV over 40 years
ago, that note may or may not be what it used to be, although a lot of
good players still sound great even in their 70's. I recently saw the
most remarkable trio of Muhal Richard Abrams, Roscoe Mitchell, and
George Lewis. Abrams and Mitchell have to be in their 70s and they
played as strongly and sounded as good as any player could, regardless of age.

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On Sat, Nov 10, 2007, Christopher Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Heh, heh! Very good!
>
>But I bet even Guido doesn't know what his top note is. That sort of  
>thing tends to vary from day to day, and also early or late in the  
>session...
>
>Christopher
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Re: [Finale] Guido OT

2007-11-10 Thread John Howell

At 10:08 PM -0600 11/9/07, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:

Margaret whitby wrote:
Twice in recent weeks one of the clues in The National Post 
(Canada)  crossword puzzle has been  --" Guido's highest note".  In 
my ignorance I assumed that he was an opera singer that I'd never 
heard of.  I'm sure that John Howell and some others must know the 
answer!  thanks, Margaret Whitby
When I've come across this crossword clue, it's always referenced a 
two letter word, and when I've worked it back, I've come up with one 
of two answers: "la", and "si", depending upon the creator of the 
crossword.


Interesting.  "La" would be correct whether talking about the gamut 
or the hexachord.  "Si" did not exist in Guido's world, and would 
show the ignorance of the puzzle-maker.


John


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Re: [Finale] Guido OT

2007-11-10 Thread Christopher Smith

Heh, heh! Very good!

But I bet even Guido doesn't know what his top note is. That sort of  
thing tends to vary from day to day, and also early or late in the  
session...


Christopher

On Nov 10, 2007, at 10:19 AM, Leigh Daniels wrote:


Because it's the National Post, I'll bet the producer of the note is
well-known Canadian trumpeter Guido Basso.

**Leigh

On Fri, Nov 9, 2007, Margaret whitby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Twice in recent weeks one of the clues in The National Post  (Canada)
crossword puzzle has been  --" Guido's highest note".  In my  
ignorance

I assumed that he was an opera singer that I'd never heard of.  I'm
sure that John Howell and some others must know the answer!  thanks,
Margaret Whitby


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Re: [Finale] Guido OT

2007-11-10 Thread Leigh Daniels
Because it's the National Post, I'll bet the producer of the note is
well-known Canadian trumpeter Guido Basso.

**Leigh

On Fri, Nov 9, 2007, Margaret whitby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Twice in recent weeks one of the clues in The National Post  (Canada)  
>crossword puzzle has been  --" Guido's highest note".  In my ignorance 
>I assumed that he was an opera singer that I'd never heard of.  I'm 
>sure that John Howell and some others must know the answer!  thanks, 
>Margaret Whitby


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Re: [Finale] Guido OT

2007-11-10 Thread Barbara Touburg
Yes, I know that of course. Mi-fa is a minor second. It was late last 
night when I wrote that.
I guess one can interpret "highest note" in two ways, mine and yours, 
don't you think?.


John Howell wrote:
No, a halfstep above la.  "Fa" is always the upper note of a halfstep in 
solmization.  But I'm sure the question addressed the Gamut, not the 
hexachord.


John


At 11:56 PM +0100 11/9/07, Barbara Touburg wrote:

Fa super la? Meaning a major second higher than la, but in the 
hexachord system, there were only 6 notes.


Margaret whitby wrote:

Twice in recent weeks one of the clues in The National Post (Canada)  
crossword puzzle has been  --" Guido's highest note".  In my 
ignorance I assumed that he was an opera singer that I'd never heard 
of.  I'm sure that John Howell and some others must know the answer!  
thanks, Margaret Whitby




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Re: [Finale] Guido OT

2007-11-09 Thread Noel Stoutenburg

Margaret whitby wrote:
Twice in recent weeks one of the clues in The National Post  (Canada)  
crossword puzzle has been  --" Guido's highest note".  In my ignorance 
I assumed that he was an opera singer that I'd never heard of.  I'm 
sure that John Howell and some others must know the answer!  thanks, 
Margaret Whitby 
When I've come across this crossword clue, it's always referenced a two 
letter word, and when I've worked it back, I've come up with one of two 
answers: "la", and "si", depending upon the creator of the crossword.


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Re: [Finale] Guido OT

2007-11-09 Thread John Howell
Either that or Father Guido Sarducci from the original Rowan & Martin 
Laugh-In show in the '60s!!!


But yes, Guido d'Arezzo, inventor (or more properly compiler and 
developer) of the most powerful music education tools of the 
double-millenium.


John


At 5:17 PM -0600 11/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

So is this Guido d'Arezzo, the inventor of the (4-line) staff?

ajr


 At 5:19 PM -0500 11/9/07, Margaret whitby wrote:

Twice in recent weeks one of the clues in The National Post
(Canada)  crossword puzzle has been  --" Guido's highest note".  In
my ignorance I assumed that he was an opera singer that I'd never
heard of.  I'm sure that John Howell and some others must know the
answer!  thanks, Margaret Whitby


 Of course!  Ela, or e'' or E5 depending on your system.  Fourth space
 in treble clef.  He considered it the highest note used in boys (not
 men's) voices.  His system used a very specific pitch set, and did
 NOT assume that scales continued up or down to infinity.

 John


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Re: [Finale] Guido OT

2007-11-09 Thread John Howell
No, a halfstep above la.  "Fa" is always the upper note of a halfstep 
in solmization.  But I'm sure the question addressed the Gamut, not 
the hexachord.


John


At 11:56 PM +0100 11/9/07, Barbara Touburg wrote:
Fa super la? Meaning a major second higher than la, but in the 
hexachord system, there were only 6 notes.


Margaret whitby wrote:
Twice in recent weeks one of the clues in The National Post 
(Canada)  crossword puzzle has been  --" Guido's highest note".  In 
my ignorance I assumed that he was an opera singer that I'd never 
heard of.  I'm sure that John Howell and some others must know the 
answer!  thanks, Margaret Whitby



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Re: [Finale] Guido OT

2007-11-09 Thread arabushk

So is this Guido d'Arezzo, the inventor of the (4-line) staff?

ajr

> At 5:19 PM -0500 11/9/07, Margaret whitby wrote:
>>Twice in recent weeks one of the clues in The National Post
>>(Canada)  crossword puzzle has been  --" Guido's highest note".  In
>>my ignorance I assumed that he was an opera singer that I'd never
>>heard of.  I'm sure that John Howell and some others must know the
>>answer!  thanks, Margaret Whitby
>
> Of course!  Ela, or e'' or E5 depending on your system.  Fourth space
> in treble clef.  He considered it the highest note used in boys (not
> men's) voices.  His system used a very specific pitch set, and did
> NOT assume that scales continued up or down to infinity.
>
> John
>
>
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> College of Liberal Arts & Human Sciences
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Re: [Finale] Guido OT

2007-11-09 Thread Aaron Sherber

At 06:05 PM 11/9/2007, John Howell wrote:
>At 5:19 PM -0500 11/9/07, Margaret whitby wrote:
>>Twice in recent weeks one of the clues in The National Post
>>(Canada)  crossword puzzle has been  --" Guido's highest note".  In
>>my ignorance I assumed that he was an opera singer that I'd never
>>heard of.  I'm sure that John Howell and some others must know the
>>answer!  thanks, Margaret Whitby
>
>Of course!  Ela, or e'' or E5 depending on your system.  Fourth space
>in treble clef.  He considered it the highest note used in boys (not
>men's) voices.  His system used a very specific pitch set, and did
>NOT assume that scales continued up or down to infinity.

And of course he's not an opera singer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guido_d%27arezzo

Aaron.

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Re: [Finale] Guido OT

2007-11-09 Thread Barbara Touburg
Fa super la? Meaning a major second higher than la, but in the hexachord 
system, there were only 6 notes.


Margaret whitby wrote:
Twice in recent weeks one of the clues in The National Post  (Canada)  
crossword puzzle has been  --" Guido's highest note".  In my ignorance I 
assumed that he was an opera singer that I'd never heard of.  I'm sure 
that John Howell and some others must know the answer!  thanks, Margaret 
Whitby



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Re: [Finale] Guido OT

2007-11-09 Thread John Howell

At 5:19 PM -0500 11/9/07, Margaret whitby wrote:
Twice in recent weeks one of the clues in The National Post 
(Canada)  crossword puzzle has been  --" Guido's highest note".  In 
my ignorance I assumed that he was an opera singer that I'd never 
heard of.  I'm sure that John Howell and some others must know the 
answer!  thanks, Margaret Whitby


Of course!  Ela, or e'' or E5 depending on your system.  Fourth space 
in treble clef.  He considered it the highest note used in boys (not 
men's) voices.  His system used a very specific pitch set, and did 
NOT assume that scales continued up or down to infinity.


John


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Virginia Tech Department of Music
College of Liberal Arts & Human Sciences
Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A 24061-0240
Vox (540) 231-8411  Fax (540) 231-5034
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
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[Finale] Guido OT

2007-11-09 Thread Margaret whitby
Twice in recent weeks one of the clues in The National Post  (Canada)  
crossword puzzle has been  --" Guido's highest note".  In my ignorance 
I assumed that he was an opera singer that I'd never heard of.  I'm 
sure that John Howell and some others must know the answer!  thanks, 
Margaret Whitby






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