[Finale] Hyperscribe Transcription, Quantization, Midi-files
I'm a dinosaur with Finale, original serial number 1001, having purchased finale 1.0 in the late '80's (for $1,000 no less.) Since then I've upgraded several times to Finale 2010, and have struggled to keep up with the changes. My question involves problems I continue to have with Hyperscribe transcription, and wonder if I've missed something through the decades. In a nutshell, here's the issue: I typically write compositions using Finale's speedy entry tool. I find that's the most precise way to enter music, certainly quicker than editing hyperscribe entries. When the piece is finished I save it as a standard midi file to MOTU's Digital Performer, because of its more sophisticated play-back and sound editing files. (My experience is that human playback doesn't have the requisite precision required for effective playback of what I intended.) Now that Finale has Garritan Instruments - which are much better and more manipulatable than my synth sounds -- I would like to save those DP files to Finale, and capture everything DP did, including tempo and volume adjustments, etc. So I save a DP file as a Standard Midi file and open it in Finale. Even though this file was originally created in Finale, it requires quantization. My files are relatively complex, typically requiring mixed quantization settings, with a resolution to the 32nd note and rarely 64ths.The Finale transcription and playback are always poor, with all the extra rests, rhythm anomalies and the like. Am I missing something? Is there an editing or quantization step I'm not using properly? I have tried the tutorials. Thanks, Ben Ben Riddles Scripto-Vox ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hyperscribe Transcription, Quantization, Midi-files
On 3/23/2011 2:09 PM, Benjamin T Riddles, II wrote: [snip] My files are relatively complex, typically requiring mixed quantization settings, with a resolution to the 32nd note and rarely 64ths.The Finale transcription and playback are always poor, with all the extra rests, rhythm anomalies and the like. Am I missing something? Is there an editing or quantization step I'm not using properly? I have tried the tutorials. Thanks, Ben No -- the import of midi files remains one huge black hole in Finale for all but the most straightforward rhythms. They've added tons of bells and whistles, they've made a lot of great improvements in much of the program, but this remains one area where they don't put any development dollars, most likely because not many Finale users are in your situation and so MakeMusic doesn't get as many complaints about it as they do about other things. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hyperscribe Transcription, Quantization, Midi-files
Hi Ben-- Im very familiar with this problem, and so is MakeMusic--I spent a very long time years ago with a tech there, and then it was upgraded to a notation specialist to show them, and prove all these problems, which they finally admitted to, and have done nothing about..and probably wont. I was trying to import midi files of a complex nature, and have Finale notate them. They claimed that the problem seems to be in Include voice 2 not being sufficient and more voices are needed-- a feature request was submitted. Finale' s quantization would truncate durations,and give repeated notes, etc..It was really unusable. Eventually because of this and other problems, I was offered my money back, and eventually started using Sibelius. Thanks Bob Morabito PS submit this problem to tech support there--maybe someday they'll address it. On Mar 23, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Benjamin T Riddles, II wrote: I'm a dinosaur with Finale, original serial number 1001, having purchased finale 1.0 in the late '80's (for $1,000 no less.) Since then I've upgraded several times to Finale 2010, and have struggled to keep up with the changes. My question involves problems I continue to have with Hyperscribe transcription, and wonder if I've missed something through the decades. In a nutshell, here's the issue: I typically write compositions using Finale's speedy entry tool. I find that's the most precise way to enter music, certainly quicker than editing hyperscribe entries. When the piece is finished I save it as a standard midi file to MOTU's Digital Performer, because of its more sophisticated play-back and sound editing files. (My experience is that human playback doesn't have the requisite precision required for effective playback of what I intended.) Now that Finale has Garritan Instruments - which are much better and more manipulatable than my synth sounds -- I would like to save those DP files to Finale, and capture everything DP did, including tempo and volume adjustments, etc. So I save a DP file as a Standard Midi file and open it in Finale. Even though this file was originally created in Finale, it requires quantization. My files are relatively complex, typically requiring mixed quantization settings, with a resolution to the 32nd note and rarely 64ths. The Finale transcription and playback are always poor, with all the extra rests, rhythm anomalies and the like. Am I missing something? Is there an editing or quantization step I'm not using properly? I have tried the tutorials. Thanks, Ben Ben Riddles Scripto-Vox ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
