Re: [Finale] Lyrics entry [was: Re: Part prints at 1/16 size of page]
You may be right. If so, that sounds like a terrible choice of a shortcut default. Is there some way to turn off that @#^%$% thing? I see you can edit keyboard shortcuts in Simple Entry, but I don't see any way to modify shortcuts in general. Moreover, this is the least of the problems with lyrics. There are all sorts of situations where the Lyric window gets completely out of sync with the lyrics displayed on the part. I have cases where you can't use the lyrics window at all -- this often happens when I have imported a scanned document via MusicXML. I know. The answer, like everything else, is "Don't do that." Every software title I own has some bugs, but Finale is the worst by far, and the company simply doesn't do anything about them. On 8/7/2015 7:49 AM, John Roberts wrote: > If I'm entering lyrics too quickly for my own good, when I enter "I," I > fail to come off the shift key before hitting the space bar to the next > syllable. Shift-space sends the cursor back one syllable, instead of the > forward that I was aiming for. It does screw things up when you're not > expecting it. > John > > > > On 8/7/15 5:55 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: >> >> >> On 8/7/2015 12:19 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: >> [snip]> which is almost completely dysfunctional in F2014. For example, >> if you >>> enter "I" a a word in a lyrical line, the cursor jumps backwards two >>> syllables and messes everything up. And there are several other really >>> bad bugs in lyrics. >> >> >> Are you using a Mac? >> >> Because I just ran a test on the Windows version of Finale2014: >> 1) Started a brand new document, using the default template >> 2) entered two measures: 4 quarter notes and a whole note in 4/4 time >> 3) entered directly into the score: Some-one should I call (they didn't >> need to make sense, just had to include several syllables before the >> word I which you say is a problem) -- there was no jumping of the >> cursor. The word I stayed right where I entered it. >> 4) opened the Lyrics window and created verse 2 with the words What >> should I do now? >> 5) click-assigned verse 2 beneath my directly entered lyrics -- again, >> there was no problem at all. >> 6) went back into verse 1 and highlighted the word "call" and typed "I" >> and again there was no problem. >> >> So if you're on Mac, it's a Mac issue. If you're on Windows, it's not a >> problem with Finale but rather with whatever file or files you've tried >> to use the word I in the lyrics tool. >> >> Once you get your list of bugs typed, you should post it here before >> submitting it to Finale so that we can all test them to see if they >> really are bugs or are somehow only bugs on your system or when using >> your templates. >> >> >> > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Lyrics entry [was: Re: Part prints at 1/16 size of page]
On Macs in the Finale lyric tool, while typing directly into the score, if the shift key is held while the space bar is pressed, the curser is sent backwards. My suspicions are that Mr. Parmerlee, while having to press the shift key to create the capital I, may inadvertently still have the shift key pressed when he hits the space bar. I know it has happened to me a few times, forcing me to consider my typing coordination skills, which are already pretty low. Jim Gray Cubby's Music www.CubbysMusic.com > On Aug 7, 2015, at 7:45 AM, Lawrence wrote: > > I think your poem "Someone should I call" is very beautiful. Well done! > > Lawrence. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 7 Aug 2015, at 11:55 am, David H. Bailey wrote: >> >> >> >> On 8/7/2015 12:19 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: >> [snip]> which is almost completely dysfunctional in F2014. For example, >> if you >>> enter "I" a a word in a lyrical line, the cursor jumps backwards two >>> syllables and messes everything up. And there are several other really >>> bad bugs in lyrics. >> >> >> Are you using a Mac? >> >> Because I just ran a test on the Windows version of Finale2014: >> 1) Started a brand new document, using the default template >> 2) entered two measures: 4 quarter notes and a whole note in 4/4 time >> 3) entered directly into the score: Some-one should I call (they didn't >> need to make sense, just had to include several syllables before the >> word I which you say is a problem) -- there was no jumping of the >> cursor. The word I stayed right where I entered it. >> 4) opened the Lyrics window and created verse 2 with the words What >> should I do now? >> 5) click-assigned verse 2 beneath my directly entered lyrics -- again, >> there was no problem at all. >> 6) went back into verse 1 and highlighted the word "call" and typed "I" >> and again there was no problem. >> >> So if you're on Mac, it's a Mac issue. If you're on Windows, it's not a >> problem with Finale but rather with whatever file or files you've tried >> to use the word I in the lyrics tool. >> >> Once you get your list of bugs typed, you should post it here before >> submitting it to Finale so that we can all test them to see if they >> really are bugs or are somehow only bugs on your system or when using >> your templates. >> >> >> >> -- >> David H. Bailey >> dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com >> http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com >> >> >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Lyrics entry [was: Re: Part prints at 1/16 size of page]
I think your poem "Someone should I call" is very beautiful. Well done! Lawrence. Sent from my iPhone > On 7 Aug 2015, at 11:55 am, David H. Bailey wrote: > > > > On 8/7/2015 12:19 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: > [snip]> which is almost completely dysfunctional in F2014. For example, > if you >> enter "I" a a word in a lyrical line, the cursor jumps backwards two >> syllables and messes everything up. And there are several other really >> bad bugs in lyrics. > > > Are you using a Mac? > > Because I just ran a test on the Windows version of Finale2014: > 1) Started a brand new document, using the default template > 2) entered two measures: 4 quarter notes and a whole note in 4/4 time > 3) entered directly into the score: Some-one should I call (they didn't > need to make sense, just had to include several syllables before the > word I which you say is a problem) -- there was no jumping of the > cursor. The word I stayed right where I entered it. > 4) opened the Lyrics window and created verse 2 with the words What > should I do now? > 5) click-assigned verse 2 beneath my directly entered lyrics -- again, > there was no problem at all. > 6) went back into verse 1 and highlighted the word "call" and typed "I" > and again there was no problem. > > So if you're on Mac, it's a Mac issue. If you're on Windows, it's not a > problem with Finale but rather with whatever file or files you've tried > to use the word I in the lyrics tool. > > Once you get your list of bugs typed, you should post it here before > submitting it to Finale so that we can all test them to see if they > really are bugs or are somehow only bugs on your system or when using > your templates. > > > > -- > David H. Bailey > dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com > http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Lyrics entry [was: Re: Part prints at 1/16 size of page]
If I'm entering lyrics too quickly for my own good, when I enter "I," I fail to come off the shift key before hitting the space bar to the next syllable. Shift-space sends the cursor back one syllable, instead of the forward that I was aiming for. It does screw things up when you're not expecting it. John On 8/7/15 5:55 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: > > > On 8/7/2015 12:19 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: > [snip]> which is almost completely dysfunctional in F2014. For example, > if you >> enter "I" a a word in a lyrical line, the cursor jumps backwards two >> syllables and messes everything up. And there are several other really >> bad bugs in lyrics. > > > Are you using a Mac? > > Because I just ran a test on the Windows version of Finale2014: > 1) Started a brand new document, using the default template > 2) entered two measures: 4 quarter notes and a whole note in 4/4 time > 3) entered directly into the score: Some-one should I call (they didn't > need to make sense, just had to include several syllables before the > word I which you say is a problem) -- there was no jumping of the > cursor. The word I stayed right where I entered it. > 4) opened the Lyrics window and created verse 2 with the words What > should I do now? > 5) click-assigned verse 2 beneath my directly entered lyrics -- again, > there was no problem at all. > 6) went back into verse 1 and highlighted the word "call" and typed "I" > and again there was no problem. > > So if you're on Mac, it's a Mac issue. If you're on Windows, it's not a > problem with Finale but rather with whatever file or files you've tried > to use the word I in the lyrics tool. > > Once you get your list of bugs typed, you should post it here before > submitting it to Finale so that we can all test them to see if they > really are bugs or are somehow only bugs on your system or when using > your templates. > > > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Lyrics entry [was: Re: Part prints at 1/16 size of page]
On 8/7/2015 12:19 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: [snip]> which is almost completely dysfunctional in F2014. For example, if you > enter "I" a a word in a lyrical line, the cursor jumps backwards two > syllables and messes everything up. And there are several other really > bad bugs in lyrics. Are you using a Mac? Because I just ran a test on the Windows version of Finale2014: 1) Started a brand new document, using the default template 2) entered two measures: 4 quarter notes and a whole note in 4/4 time 3) entered directly into the score: Some-one should I call (they didn't need to make sense, just had to include several syllables before the word I which you say is a problem) -- there was no jumping of the cursor. The word I stayed right where I entered it. 4) opened the Lyrics window and created verse 2 with the words What should I do now? 5) click-assigned verse 2 beneath my directly entered lyrics -- again, there was no problem at all. 6) went back into verse 1 and highlighted the word "call" and typed "I" and again there was no problem. So if you're on Mac, it's a Mac issue. If you're on Windows, it's not a problem with Finale but rather with whatever file or files you've tried to use the word I in the lyrics tool. Once you get your list of bugs typed, you should post it here before submitting it to Finale so that we can all test them to see if they really are bugs or are somehow only bugs on your system or when using your templates. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu