[Finale] New monitor
It looks like my current monitor is coming to the end of its life, so I have been considering what to get as a replacement. LCD TFT screens seem to be the only option now, but what opinions does the group have on wide-screen versus 4:3 or similar square formats? Does Finale work correctly with wide-screen? I thought I might see a lot more bars when in scroll view, or two pages side by side in page view, but some of the demos I have seen (generally web pages) have square formats stretched to wide-screen, therefore they are completely useless. On the other hand a square shape is probably better for the maximum number of staves visible. Also does anyone have any other factors they think are worth considering when getting a monitor for Finale? mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New monitor
On Aug 11, 2007, at 10:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like my current monitor is coming to the end of its life, so I have been considering what to get as a replacement. LCD TFT screens seem to be the only option now, but what opinions does the group have on wide-screen versus 4:3 or similar square formats? Does Finale work correctly with wide-screen? I thought I might see a lot more bars when in scroll view, or two pages side by side in page view, but some of the demos I have seen (generally web pages) have square formats stretched to wide-screen, therefore they are completely useless. On the other hand a square shape is probably better for the maximum number of staves visible. Also does anyone have any other factors they think are worth considering when getting a monitor for Finale? Finale works great with a wide monitor. This kind of thing is handled by the video driver of your computer (video card, I would assume) so Finale has little to do with it, except that I love it. I can get a whole phrase on the screen in scroll view (depending on viewing size) and I still depend on Staff Sets so that the staves I need are visible. I have an Intel Mac, which has screen rotation built in, so if I had my 10.75 X 17.25 inches viewing area rotated 90 degrees, I could easily get an 11X17 large orchestra score page onto the screen at full size. I don't know what the Windows situation is for that, but I think it is a combination of video card and video driver (which happens to be there in Mac OS 10.4). Highly recommended is the short answer. You won't regret it, but make sure that your video card is up to it. Any newish one should be fine. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New monitor
At 10:51 AM 8/11/2007 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what opinions does the group have on wide-screen versus 4:3 or similar square formats? Finale works fine on these, assuming your computer and video card support them. (You didn't say Mac or PC.) I have two widescreens on my homebuilt WinXP desktop. The old Matrox G450 dual-head card has done a great job through several generations of upgrades, but did require downloading a patch from Matrox for the widescreen resolutions (two each at 1680x1050), which weren't supported by the original drivers. Newer computers should work instantly. My Dell laptop has a second screen attached, widscreen at 1440x900, and it found and adjusted to the monitor without a hitch. It certainly makes the laptop serviceable for using Finale. It's fantastic to have a scroll view with an 11x34-inch desktop. All sorts of magnifications can be used without struggling. Also, when working on two Finale documents, having them large and side-by-side is excellent. My card doesn't support pivoted monitors, but if yours does, you'll love a screen this large with a full orchestral score in front of you. One important recommendation: preview the monitors in a store. All are clearn, but the cheaper ones aren't nearly as easy on the eyes. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New monitor
A wide monitor is terrific. I have the 30 cinema and I'll never go back to anything smaller (or square). I can see (in a usable percentage) a full score top to bottom, and one or more phrases left to right in scroll view (often at 100%). In page view, I can get an 8.5x11 page at 200%, (just cutting off the bottom margin). Amazing for editing. There is plenty of room for palettes and even a word doc with text (or a web page or -- for those tedious days -- a movie window. Did I just admit that?). There are very few issues with stretching square to wide. There are some smarmy web designers who add a command for full screen, but you can always drag it back. I find few web pages force full screen, and those that do are usually in fixed columns. I'd simply get the biggest monitor that you can afford and have room for. Screen real estate is a precious commodity. -Carolyn On 8/11/07, Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 11, 2007, at 10:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like my current monitor is coming to the end of its life, so I have been considering what to get as a replacement. LCD TFT screens seem to be the only option now, but what opinions does the group have on wide-screen versus 4:3 or similar square formats? Does Finale work correctly with wide-screen? I thought I might see a lot more bars when in scroll view, or two pages side by side in page view, but some of the demos I have seen (generally web pages) have square formats stretched to wide-screen, therefore they are completely useless. On the other hand a square shape is probably better for the maximum number of staves visible. Also does anyone have any other factors they think are worth considering when getting a monitor for Finale? Finale works great with a wide monitor. This kind of thing is handled by the video driver of your computer (video card, I would assume) so Finale has little to do with it, except that I love it. I can get a whole phrase on the screen in scroll view (depending on viewing size) and I still depend on Staff Sets so that the staves I need are visible. I have an Intel Mac, which has screen rotation built in, so if I had my 10.75 X 17.25 inches viewing area rotated 90 degrees, I could easily get an 11X17 large orchestra score page onto the screen at full size. I don't know what the Windows situation is for that, but I think it is a combination of video card and video driver (which happens to be there in Mac OS 10.4). Highly recommended is the short answer. You won't regret it, but make sure that your video card is up to it. Any newish one should be fine. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New monitor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like my current monitor is coming to the end of its life, so I have been considering what to get as a replacement. LCD TFT screens seem to be the only option now, but what opinions does the group have on wide-screen versus 4:3 or similar square formats? Does Finale work correctly with wide-screen? I thought I might see a lot more bars when in scroll view, or two pages side by side in page view, but some of the demos I have seen (generally web pages) have square formats stretched to wide-screen, therefore they are completely useless. On the other hand a square shape is probably better for the maximum number of staves visible. Also does anyone have any other factors they think are worth considering when getting a monitor for Finale? I recently went from a 20 CRT (1600x1200) to a 20 widescreen LCD (1680x1050), which I got for a very good price (the 22 at the same resolution was $200 more), and it works very well for Finale (and other programs). The only glitch was getting new drivers for my video card, and that only took a few minutes. I can now display an entire big band score at 75% magnification (very readable) with more measures than I could before, or 3 full up pages of text, or several program windows, and it uses less electricity than before, which is goo during the summer when I need power for the fans. If your drivers are set up well, squares are squares, colors are bright, text is sharp, and you have more desk area. I recommend it. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re(2): [Finale] New monitor
What Carolyn said! I'm also using an Apple 30 Cinema HD display (wide-screen) and it's unbelievably great running at a resolution of 2560 x 1600 (!) on my quad G5. A flat screen this size has been a 30-year dream for me! It's plenty bright, too. I run it at about 60% brightness unless it's very sunny out in the winter. In Scroll View at 100% I can easily see (and easily read) 13 bars across and 14 staves down. And I love the 200% page view, too. I definitely recommend getting the largest wide-screen you can afford. **Leigh On Sat, Aug 11, 2007, Carolyn Bremer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A wide monitor is terrific. I have the 30 cinema and I'll never go back to anything smaller (or square). I can see (in a usable percentage) a full score top to bottom, and one or more phrases left to right in scroll view (often at 100%). In page view, I can get an 8.5x11 page at 200%, (just cutting off the bottom margin). Amazing for editing. There is plenty of room for palettes and even a word doc with text (or a web page or -- for those tedious days -- a movie window. Did I just admit that?). There are very few issues with stretching square to wide. There are some smarmy web designers who add a command for full screen, but you can always drag it back. I find few web pages force full screen, and those that do are usually in fixed columns. I'd simply get the biggest monitor that you can afford and have room for. Screen real estate is a precious commodity. -Carolyn ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New monitor
Leigh Daniels wrote: What Carolyn said! I'm also using an Apple 30 Cinema HD display (wide-screen) and it's unbelievably great running at a resolution of 2560 x 1600 (!) on my quad G5. A flat screen this size has been a 30-year dream for me! It's plenty bright, too. I run it at about 60% brightness unless it's very sunny out in the winter. While I'd love to agree with you, a 30 cinema display (along with a Mac and a card to support it) would cost more than my car did. What's worse, a friend of mine has *2* of them on his Mac Pro. I think I'll go throw water balloons at him. ;) cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New monitor
On 11 Aug 2007 at 10:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have seen (generally web pages) have square formats stretched to wide-screen, therefore they are completely useless. That happens only when the video card's drivers don't support the different aspect ratio. It drives me crazy, too -- two people at one of my clients' are running their widescreen monitors just like that, and they just don't care! It would be terrible for something like Finale, of course, and also defeats the purpose of having more horizontal pixels. I don't know what that company's tech support people are thinking. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] New monitor
I suggest considering a widescreen LCD with pivot capability. Then you can pivot the screen to portrait and see a full page of the score on screen with much better clarity. I have a 20 wide screen with pivot andf would not give it away for anything now that I have become accustomed to it. Actually wish I had thrown a few more $$ and bought the 24 Wide with Pivot. But at the time $$ were a slight issue and so I rushed. Ah well... Now I am considering getting a dual screen set up with two of them. One for the scores and one for other stuff. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun 12/08/2007 2:51 a.m. To: finale@shsu.edu Cc: Subject: [Finale] New monitor It looks like my current monitor is coming to the end of its life, so I have been considering what to get as a replacement. LCD TFT screens seem to be the only option now, but what opinions does the group have on wide-screen versus 4:3 or similar square formats? Does Finale work correctly with wide-screen? I thought I might see a lot more bars when in scroll view, or two pages side by side in page view, but some of the demos I have seen (generally web pages) have square formats stretched to wide-screen, therefore they are completely useless. On the other hand a square shape is probably better for the maximum number of staves visible. Also does anyone have any other factors they think are worth considering when getting a monitor for Finale? mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web I suggest considering a widescreen LCD with pivot capability. Then you can pivot the screen to portrait and see a full page of the score on screen with much better clarity. I have a 20 wide screen with pivot andf would not give it away for anything now that I have become accustomed to it. Actually wish I had thrown a few more $$ and bought the 24 Wide with Pivot. But at the time $$ were a slight issue and so I rushed. Ah well... Now I am considering getting a dual screen set up with two of them. One for the scores and one for other stuff. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun 12/08/2007 2:51 a.m. To: finale@shsu.edu Cc: Subject: [Finale] New monitor It looks like my current monitor is coming to the end of its life, so I have been considering what to get as a replacement. LCD TFT screens seem to be the only option now, but what opinions does the group have on wide-screen versus 4:3 or similar square formats? Does Finale work correctly with wide-screen? I thought I might see a lot more bars when in scroll view, or two pages side by side in page view, but some of the demos I have seen (generally web pages) have square formats stretched to wide-screen, therefore they are completely useless. On the other hand a square shape is probably better for the maximum number of staves visible. Also does anyone have any other factors they think are worth considering when getting a monitor for Finale? mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
