Re: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure
Thank you Klaus, this solution looks interesting to, I'll be trying today. It's weird though that Finale can't properly handle all this. Giovanni Andreani > On 17 Feb 2014, at 14:18, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre > wrote: > > As sort of a courtesy clef indication? Never tried that before, but I might > imagine the road I would suggest: > > In the online help facility find the keyboard equivalent for the bass clef in > your given music font, and create the bass clef as an expression. > > By means of TGTools create space before the first note of the measure. > > Place the bass clef expression manually at the beginning of the given measure. > > Klaus > > >> >> From: Giovanni Andreani >> To: "" >> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 12:36 PM >> Subject: Re: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure >> >> >> Thank you Klaus. My problem si slightly different while I don't have to >> specify a new clef but just show up the existing one. In this case the clef >> appears after the time and key signature. >> >> Giovanni Andreani >> >>> On 17 Feb 2014, at 12:04, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre >>> wrote: >>> >>> Go to the Clef Tool (symbol is Bass Clef) >>> >>> Select the passage that needs a new clef - may be partial or full measures >>> or combinations of full and partial measures >>> >>> Right click the selected passage and click Select clef >>> >>> The Clef Tool window comes up, where you may click the desired key >>> >>> Please note that the number or letter in the brackets are the keyboard >>> shortcuts for the given clef. >>> >>> Maybe this is more helpful: >>> >>> <http://www.finalemusic.com/UserManuals/Finale2014Mac/Finale.htm#Finale/Tut4EditingYourMusic3.htm?Highlight=clef%20tool> >>> >>> >>> Klaus >>> >>> >>>> >>>> From: Giovanni Andreani >>>> Subject: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure >>>> >>>> >>>> Is there anyway to show a clef in a measure different from the first one, >>>> with the key and time signatures also showing as if the measure was the >>>> very first one? >>> ___ >>> Finale mailing list >>> Finale@shsu.edu >>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> >> >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure
I think the easiest way might be to create a blank measure after each clef indication, use Blank Notation staff style (to hide the default rest) and hide the barline. Then make the measure width zero. This would put a clef BEFORE the key signature, which would be in the second of the two measures. Measure numbering would be off by a factor of 2, but I would bet that you are creating an exercise sheet or example page, so that probably won't matter. Christopher On Mon Feb 17, at MondayFeb 17 8:18 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote: > As sort of a courtesy clef indication? Never tried that before, but I might > imagine the road I would suggest: > > In the online help facility find the keyboard equivalent for the bass clef in > your given music font, and create the bass clef as an expression. > > By means of TGTools create space before the first note of the measure. > > Place the bass clef expression manually at the beginning of the given measure. > > Klaus > > >> >> From: Giovanni Andreani >> To: "" >> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 12:36 PM >> Subject: Re: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure >> >> >> Thank you Klaus. My problem si slightly different while I don't have to >> specify a new clef but just show up the existing one. In this case the clef >> appears after the time and key signature. >> >> Giovanni Andreani >> >>> On 17 Feb 2014, at 12:04, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre >>> wrote: >>> >>> Go to the Clef Tool (symbol is Bass Clef) >>> >>> Select the passage that needs a new clef - may be partial or full measures >>> or combinations of full and partial measures >>> >>> Right click the selected passage and click Select clef >>> >>> The Clef Tool window comes up, where you may click the desired key >>> >>> Please note that the number or letter in the brackets are the keyboard >>> shortcuts for the given clef. >>> >>> Maybe this is more helpful: >>> >>> <http://www.finalemusic.com/UserManuals/Finale2014Mac/Finale.htm#Finale/Tut4EditingYourMusic3.htm?Highlight=clef%20tool> >>> >>> >>> Klaus >>> >>> >>>> >>>> From: Giovanni Andreani >>>> Subject: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure >>>> >>>> >>>> Is there anyway to show a clef in a measure different from the first one, >>>> with the key and time signatures also showing as if the measure was the >>>> very first one? >>> ___ >>> Finale mailing list >>> Finale@shsu.edu >>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> >> >> > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure
On 2/17/2014 8:18 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote: > As sort of a courtesy clef indication? Never tried that before, but I might > imagine the road I would suggest: > > In the online help facility find the keyboard equivalent for the bass clef in > your given music font, and create the bass clef as an expression. > > By means of TGTools create space before the first note of the measure. > > Place the bass clef expression manually at the beginning of the given measure. > The clef is easy to place using the Clef tool: select the measure, then in the Clef Tool dialog select the current clef, set the size to be 100%, make sure the range is set to be only that measure, select Always Show and check "After Barline" and you will get the clef at full size between the barline and the first note. The difficulty is if you also want the time signature and key signature to display -- then for some unknown reason Finale puts the clef sign following the Key and Time signatures, instead of before them. And I can't see an easy way around that, unless you do what Klaus has suggested and add extra space and place the clef as an expression. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure
As sort of a courtesy clef indication? Never tried that before, but I might imagine the road I would suggest: In the online help facility find the keyboard equivalent for the bass clef in your given music font, and create the bass clef as an expression. By means of TGTools create space before the first note of the measure. Place the bass clef expression manually at the beginning of the given measure. Klaus > > From: Giovanni Andreani >To: "" >Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 12:36 PM >Subject: Re: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure > > >Thank you Klaus. My problem si slightly different while I don't have to >specify a new clef but just show up the existing one. In this case the clef >appears after the time and key signature. > >Giovanni Andreani > >> On 17 Feb 2014, at 12:04, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre >> wrote: >> >> Go to the Clef Tool (symbol is Bass Clef) >> >> Select the passage that needs a new clef - may be partial or full measures >> or combinations of full and partial measures >> >> Right click the selected passage and click Select clef >> >> The Clef Tool window comes up, where you may click the desired key >> >> Please note that the number or letter in the brackets are the keyboard >> shortcuts for the given clef. >> >> Maybe this is more helpful: >> >> <http://www.finalemusic.com/UserManuals/Finale2014Mac/Finale.htm#Finale/Tut4EditingYourMusic3.htm?Highlight=clef%20tool> >> >> >> Klaus >> >> >>> >>> From: Giovanni Andreani >>> Subject: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure >>> >>> >>> Is there anyway to show a clef in a measure different from the first one, >>> with the key and time signatures also showing as if the measure was the >>> very first one? >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >> > > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure
Thank you Klaus. My problem si slightly different while I don't have to specify a new clef but just show up the existing one. In this case the clef appears after the time and key signature. Giovanni Andreani > On 17 Feb 2014, at 12:04, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre > wrote: > > Go to the Clef Tool (symbol is Bass Clef) > > Select the passage that needs a new clef - may be partial or full measures or > combinations of full and partial measures > > Right click the selected passage and click Select clef > > The Clef Tool window comes up, where you may click the desired key > > Please note that the number or letter in the brackets are the keyboard > shortcuts for the given clef. > > Maybe this is more helpful: > > <http://www.finalemusic.com/UserManuals/Finale2014Mac/Finale.htm#Finale/Tut4EditingYourMusic3.htm?Highlight=clef%20tool> > > > Klaus > > >> ________________ >> From: Giovanni Andreani >> Subject: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure >> >> >> Is there anyway to show a clef in a measure different from the first one, >> with the key and time signatures also showing as if the measure was the very >> first one? > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure
Go to the Clef Tool (symbol is Bass Clef) Select the passage that needs a new clef - may be partial or full measures or combinations of full and partial measures Right click the selected passage and click Select clef The Clef Tool window comes up, where you may click the desired key Please note that the number or letter in the brackets are the keyboard shortcuts for the given clef. Maybe this is more helpful: <http://www.finalemusic.com/UserManuals/Finale2014Mac/Finale.htm#Finale/Tut4EditingYourMusic3.htm?Highlight=clef%20tool> Klaus > > From: Giovanni Andreani >Subject: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure > > >Is there anyway to show a clef in a measure different from the first one, with >the key and time signatures also showing as if the measure was the very first >one? > > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure
Is there anyway to show a clef in a measure different from the first one, with the key and time signatures also showing as if the measure was the very first one? If I'd want to show in each measure its clef, key signature and time signature how would I accomplish it? When I try to do so I can get the key and time signature showing up through the measure attributes dialog box but the only way I can think to get the clef showing is by opening the change clef dialog box, select the clef, chose "always show clef", resize it at 100% and tick the "Place Clef After Barline" checkbox. Whatsoever, in this way, the clef appears after the key and the time signatures and not as the first item, as where it should be. Any hint would be warmly appreciated! Giovanni Giovanni Andreani www.giovanniandreani.eu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
