[Finale] expressions and smart line attachment with one line staff
Hello everyone, whenever i need to use a 1 line staff for the percussion i can't properly attach expressions and smart lines. i get a weird cursor : arrow up and arrow left at the same time and it will only let me attach things to the previous normal 5 line staff ! Any ideas ? Thanks in advance. Julien -- Jamet Julien 45 rue Crozatier 75012 Paris +33(0)6-62-82-58-57 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] expressions and smart line attachment with one line staff
in my experience, clicking directly on the note position right on the staffline works for expressions. for smart shapes, place the cursor directly over the VERY middle before 2-click-dragging (hairpins, for example). if you mean previous on the same instrument (not adjacent staff), there are indeed situations where weirdness will happen when attaching measure-attached smart shapes to a 1-line staff when the previous measure inteh same staff in a 5-line. in those cases, i have been forced to create one for the PT and one for the SC and hide accordingly. this is a stupid bug that has been around for many years. i encourage you to file a report with the authorities. whenever i need to use a 1 line staff for the percussion i can't properly attach expressions and smart lines. i get a weird cursor : arrow up and arrow left at the same time and it will only let me attach things to the previous normal 5 line staff ! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] expressions and smart line attachment with one line staff
Some more info : To attach an articulation the cursor has to be exactly on the staff line the same occur for a crescendo but as i move it and press alt to check where it is attached it shows that it is attached to the preceding 5 line staff measure. ! On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Julien Jamet julien.ja...@gmail.comwrote: Hello everyone, whenever i need to use a 1 line staff for the percussion i can't properly attach expressions and smart lines. i get a weird cursor : arrow up and arrow left at the same time and it will only let me attach things to the previous normal 5 line staff ! Any ideas ? Thanks in advance. Julien -- Jamet Julien 45 rue Crozatier 75012 Paris +33(0)6-62-82-58-57 -- Jamet Julien 45 rue Crozatier 75012 Paris +33(0)6-62-82-58-57 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] expressions and smart line attachment with one line staff
On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:32 AM, Julien Jamet julien.ja...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, whenever i need to use a 1 line staff for the percussion i can't properly attach expressions and smart lines. i get a weird cursor : arrow up and arrow left at the same time and it will only let me attach things to the previous normal 5 line staff ! The arrows are telling you that if you paste or enter something at that specific location, it will be tied to that beat or measure. Move the cursor ever so slightly L-R or U-D and you'll see that cursor change (one less arrow) telling you that now what you paste or assign will be tied to that area more-less but is relatively free to move about the cabin. I usually prefer it being ties to exactly where I wan it, so I choose that option. By the way... when you're doing layout and you see a, lets say a dynamic marking (p, mf f etc.), and you don't know how it got to where it is, and why it's in such an odd location, chances are good that you didn't notice that one of those arrows was pointing away from the stave when you pasted in/assigned it. You'll see it in layout. That means that your cursor is/was low enough or high enough that Finale thinks you're working on the previous stave or the following one, and it has tied that marking to that stave and that point. Just select the tool that applies, click inside the little box of that symbol (the handle), and drag it until you see the arrow change, thenplace it where you want it. (When something MUST stay where it is, always look for the two-arrow indicator). I can't account for your not being allowed to paste something onto the percussion line but I don't believe it haha… go really slow and see if you aren't offered a hand (smile). RH ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] expressions and smart line attachment with one line staff
Thanks for your answer Jef. Yes i mean previous on the same instrument. I'm not familiar with the procedure to file a report but i'll try to get into it as soon as i have some time. On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 12:46 PM, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote: in my experience, clicking directly on the note position right on the staffline works for expressions. for smart shapes, place the cursor directly over the VERY middle before 2-click-dragging (hairpins, for example). if you mean previous on the same instrument (not adjacent staff), there are indeed situations where weirdness will happen when attaching measure-attached smart shapes to a 1-line staff when the previous measure inteh same staff in a 5-line. in those cases, i have been forced to create one for the PT and one for the SC and hide accordingly. this is a stupid bug that has been around for many years. i encourage you to file a report with the authorities. whenever i need to use a 1 line staff for the percussion i can't properly attach expressions and smart lines. i get a weird cursor : arrow up and arrow left at the same time and it will only let me attach things to the previous normal 5 line staff ! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- Jamet Julien 45 rue Crozatier 75012 Paris +33(0)6-62-82-58-57 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] expressions and smart line attachment with one line staff
Thanks Richard. But apart from this specific problem i do not have any trouble with proper attachment. As Jef mentioned it is a bug. On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Julien Jamet julien.ja...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your answer Jef. Yes i mean previous on the same instrument. I'm not familiar with the procedure to file a report but i'll try to get into it as soon as i have some time. On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 12:46 PM, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote: in my experience, clicking directly on the note position right on the staffline works for expressions. for smart shapes, place the cursor directly over the VERY middle before 2-click-dragging (hairpins, for example). if you mean previous on the same instrument (not adjacent staff), there are indeed situations where weirdness will happen when attaching measure-attached smart shapes to a 1-line staff when the previous measure inteh same staff in a 5-line. in those cases, i have been forced to create one for the PT and one for the SC and hide accordingly. this is a stupid bug that has been around for many years. i encourage you to file a report with the authorities. whenever i need to use a 1 line staff for the percussion i can't properly attach expressions and smart lines. i get a weird cursor : arrow up and arrow left at the same time and it will only let me attach things to the previous normal 5 line staff ! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- Jamet Julien 45 rue Crozatier 75012 Paris +33(0)6-62-82-58-57 -- Jamet Julien 45 rue Crozatier 75012 Paris +33(0)6-62-82-58-57 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
