Re: [Finale] "floating rest" problem
On Jun 9, 2006, at 12:45 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
The traditional solution, which produces even cleaner results, is to
extract the entire score into a part
Ooh, that's very good!
I'll be sure to try that next time.
("Traditional", huh? There are even traditions of how to deal with
file corruption? Man...)
Christopher
Finale 2.X and 3.X used to produce corrupt files very frequently. The
question of how to deal w. them was a frequent topic on this list, and
the part-extraction solution was indeed standard advice.
--Andrew
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Re: [Finale] "floating rest" problem
On Jun 9, 2006, at 12:45 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
On Jun 9, 2006, at 10:41 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:
For case of VERY bad corruption (I have had this before) sometimes
you have to copy the contents to a new, blank document. This, of
course, is a last resort, and even then doesn't always work, as
sometimes the corrupted information is copied over to the new
document.
The traditional solution, which produces even cleaner results, is to
extract the entire score into a part--that is, run the part-extraction
routine, but select all staves to be extracted as a single part. You
will lose your layout and measure spacing, but everything else is
almost guaranteed to be clean, unless Finale itself is corrupt.
Ooh, that's very good!
I'll be sure to try that next time.
("Traditional", huh? There are even traditions of how to deal with file
corruption? Man...)
Christopher
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Re: [Finale] "floating rest" problem
On Jun 9, 2006, at 10:41 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: For case of VERY bad corruption (I have had this before) sometimes you have to copy the contents to a new, blank document. This, of course, is a last resort, and even then doesn't always work, as sometimes the corrupted information is copied over to the new document. The traditional solution, which produces even cleaner results, is to extract the entire score into a part--that is, run the part-extraction routine, but select all staves to be extracted as a single part. You will lose your layout and measure spacing, but everything else is almost guaranteed to be clean, unless Finale itself is corrupt. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] "floating rest" problem
On Jun 9, 2006, at 9:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have received this question from my composer colleague with whom I work on engraving projects with. I can only pass along his own description of the problem because he is using Finale 2006 and I have not yet been able to upgrade from 2003. Apparently, he has a couple of quarter rests that have left their measures and migrated to a couple of weird spots on the page. On one particular page (in page view) he has a rest between two percussion staves, and a second one showing up well over on the desktop (as he has a widescreen monitor). He says he cannot attack these rests with the special tools because he can never get a handle for either rest. What's really too bad is that he has this whole score exactly as he wants it, excepting these two rests, and he's at the point where he'd rather white them out rather than risk damaging his entire layout. Has anyone had something similar happen to them, or does anyone have any ideas about how to go about search-and-destroying these rests? I have seen this a couple of times, though not with a rest. Sometimes a random character shows up on the page, probably a symptom of mild corruption in the file. With me it has been a solid notehead in the middle of a slur, or a comma (breath mark) at a random place. The selection tool should be able to select it (because the random character might be associated with almost any tool), then delete it and you can re-enter any items that disappear along with it. If it IS a real rest that has simply gone way off, then opening up the measure in Speedy Entry, lining up the cursor at the correct beat in the correct layer and hitting * (asterisk) should bring it home again. If things are really bad, then clearing and re-entering the measure might work. For case of VERY bad corruption (I have had this before) sometimes you have to copy the contents to a new, blank document. This, of course, is a last resort, and even then doesn't always work, as sometimes the corrupted information is copied over to the new document. Obviously, only carry out these operations on a COPY of the file, so that any messes you make can be safely trashed without losing your work. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] "floating rest" problem
Try double-clicking on a rest with the selection tool. If the rest is not within staff lines (which is apparently the case here) you will find that this action selects the rest in Simple entry, automatically switching to the appropriate layer if necessary: you can now move it (with arrow keys), hide it (press 'H') or delete it. Michael Cook On 9 Jun 2006, at 15:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have received this question from my composer colleague with whom I work on engraving projects with. I can only pass along his own description of the problem because he is using Finale 2006 and I have not yet been able to upgrade from 2003. Apparently, he has a couple of quarter rests that have left their measures and migrated to a couple of weird spots on the page. On one particular page (in page view) he has a rest between two percussion staves, and a second one showing up well over on the desktop (as he has a widescreen monitor). He says he cannot attack these rests with the special tools because he can never get a handle for either rest. What's really too bad is that he has this whole score exactly as he wants it, excepting these two rests, and he's at the point where he'd rather white them out rather than risk damaging his entire layout. Has anyone had something similar happen to them, or does anyone have any ideas about how to go about search-and-destroying these rests? Thanks in advance, Michael Wittenburg ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] "floating rest" problem
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have received this question from my composer colleague with whom I work on engraving projects with. I can only pass along his own description of the problem because he is using Finale 2006 and I have not yet been able to upgrade from 2003. Apparently, he has a couple of quarter rests that have left their measures and migrated to a couple of weird spots on the page. On one particular page (in page view) he has a rest between two percussion staves, and a second one showing up well over on the desktop (as he has a widescreen monitor). He says he cannot attack these rests with the special tools because he can never get a handle for either rest. What's really too bad is that he has this whole score exactly as he wants it, excepting these two rests, and he's at the point where he'd rather white them out rather than risk damaging his entire layout. Has anyone had something similar happen to them, or does anyone have any ideas about how to go about search-and-destroying these rests? I've never run into this, but I have a couple of thoughts. As for handles for the rests, has he tried using the selection tool? Using that you're supposed to be able to click on any item and the appropriate tool will open up. As for locating where the rests came from, if they've moved from some spot, they must have left an empty spot behind. He can check the score to see which measures are missing rests. Has he tried using the Text tool or the Articulation tool or the Expression tool to see if handles pop up on the rests in question? Perhaps somehow they're stray text/articulation/expression items which have changed characters or fonts? Has he tried the Data Check to try to repair the file (he should make a copy first) to see if that can fix the problem? Just some thoughts, nothing definite to give you the answer, though. Has he looked at the file on a different computer? Sounds like a candidate for shipping to support to see if they can help. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] "floating rest" problem
I have received this question from my composer colleague with whom I work on engraving projects with. I can only pass along his own description of the problem because he is using Finale 2006 and I have not yet been able to upgrade from 2003. Apparently, he has a couple of quarter rests that have left their measures and migrated to a couple of weird spots on the page. On one particular page (in page view) he has a rest between two percussion staves, and a second one showing up well over on the desktop (as he has a widescreen monitor). He says he cannot attack these rests with the special tools because he can never get a handle for either rest. What's really too bad is that he has this whole score exactly as he wants it, excepting these two rests, and he's at the point where he'd rather white them out rather than risk damaging his entire layout. Has anyone had something similar happen to them, or does anyone have any ideas about how to go about search-and-destroying these rests? Thanks in advance, Michael Wittenburg ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
