Re: [Finale] grace notes in voiced linked parts

[Robert Patterson]

I second Darcy's suggestion. Much easier.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Darcy James Argue 
wrote:

> Rather than extract the parts, you could add new hidden staves to the
> score and copy/explode the instruments to separate staves — plugins make
> this easier.
>
> That way you can at least keep all of the parts in the same file, which
> makes updating and printing them much, much easier.
>
> Cheers,
>
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> On Mar 8, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Christopher Smith <
> christopher.sm...@videotron.ca> wrote:
>
> > The only solution I know of is to extract the part. You can make it more
> painless by doing ALL the formatting you can (except grace note spacing)
> while it is a linked part, then extract and respace just before you print.
> That way, if there are edits later, you don’t have to reformat EVERYTHING,
> just make the edit and extract and respace again.
> >
> > Also, log a complaint with tech support. This is an unconscionable bug.
> >
> > Christopher
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Mar 8, 2016, at 2:51 PM, Ryan  wrote:
> >>
> >> What's the solution to spacing grace notes in a linked part that has
> >> voicing defined for 2 instruments? Is there a solution? Would prefer
> not to
> >> extract the part, but I will if necessary.
> >>
> >> Finale 2012c.
> >>
> >> I've opened the file in 2014.5, but I still had the same trouble.
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Re: [Finale] grace notes in voiced linked parts

[Darcy James Argue]

Rather than extract the parts, you could add new hidden staves to the score and 
copy/explode the instruments to separate staves — plugins make this easier. 

That way you can at least keep all of the parts in the same file, which makes 
updating and printing them much, much easier.

Cheers,

- DJA
-
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On Mar 8, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Christopher Smith  
wrote:

> The only solution I know of is to extract the part. You can make it more 
> painless by doing ALL the formatting you can (except grace note spacing) 
> while it is a linked part, then extract and respace just before you print. 
> That way, if there are edits later, you don’t have to reformat EVERYTHING, 
> just make the edit and extract and respace again.
> 
> Also, log a complaint with tech support. This is an unconscionable bug.
> 
> Christopher
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2016, at 2:51 PM, Ryan  wrote:
>> 
>> What's the solution to spacing grace notes in a linked part that has
>> voicing defined for 2 instruments? Is there a solution? Would prefer not to
>> extract the part, but I will if necessary.
>> 
>> Finale 2012c.
>> 
>> I've opened the file in 2014.5, but I still had the same trouble.
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Re: [Finale] grace notes in voiced linked parts

[Christopher Smith]

The only solution I know of is to extract the part. You can make it more 
painless by doing ALL the formatting you can (except grace note spacing) while 
it is a linked part, then extract and respace just before you print. That way, 
if there are edits later, you don’t have to reformat EVERYTHING, just make the 
edit and extract and respace again.

Also, log a complaint with tech support. This is an unconscionable bug.

Christopher



> On Mar 8, 2016, at 2:51 PM, Ryan  wrote:
> 
> What's the solution to spacing grace notes in a linked part that has
> voicing defined for 2 instruments? Is there a solution? Would prefer not to
> extract the part, but I will if necessary.
> 
> Finale 2012c.
> 
> I've opened the file in 2014.5, but I still had the same trouble.
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[Finale] grace notes in voiced linked parts

[Ryan]

What's the solution to spacing grace notes in a linked part that has
voicing defined for 2 instruments? Is there a solution? Would prefer not to
extract the part, but I will if necessary.

Finale 2012c.

I've opened the file in 2014.5, but I still had the same trouble.
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[Finale] Grace Notes on Voiced Linked Parts

[Jonathan Smith]

Darcy,

I have also tried in vain to overcome this problem and have given up  
and just added extra staves and voiced each part individually when I  
have dual voiced grace notes. I thought changing the 2nd part into  
layer 2 might help but it becomes even worse - and you still can't  
drag the notes around in the part anyway. Grace notes have never been  
Finale's best attribute anyway.


This really needs to be fixed so you can use the special tools note  
mover or something. It makes a whole mockery of having the facility  
there in the first place.


Jonathan

On the other hand, I'm completely stumped when it comes to grace  
note spacing on voiced linked parts, which is, as far as I can  
tell, completely broken. A passage using grace notes that spaces  
fine on non-voiced parts will be an irredeemable mess on voiced  
parts, and there is no way to fix the spacing manually because none  
of the relevant tools work in voiced parts. Trying to make  
modifications in the score doesn't help either.


Has anyone found a solution for this (other than extracting out)?

Cheers,

- Darcy


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Re: [Finale] Grace Notes on Voiced Linked Parts

[Darcy James Argue]

Hi Jonathan,

Just so you know, it's not just dual voiced grace notes -- they don't  
space correctly on voiced linked parts even on a2 passages. It's  
totally ridiculous.


I guess the best solution would be to add extra staves to the score  
that only show up in scroll view, and use those hidden staves as a  
basis for the parts, but I usually end up just extracting out.


Cheers,

- Darcy
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Brooklyn, NY



On 28 Apr 2007, at 11:40 AM, Jonathan Smith wrote:


Darcy,

I have also tried in vain to overcome this problem and have given  
up and just added extra staves and voiced each part individually  
when I have dual voiced grace notes. I thought changing the 2nd  
part into layer 2 might help but it becomes even worse - and you  
still can't drag the notes around in the part anyway. Grace notes  
have never been Finale's best attribute anyway.


This really needs to be fixed so you can use the special tools note  
mover or something. It makes a whole mockery of having the facility  
there in the first place.


Jonathan

On the other hand, I'm completely stumped when it comes to grace  
note spacing on voiced linked parts, which is, as far as I can  
tell, completely broken. A passage using grace notes that spaces  
fine on non-voiced parts will be an irredeemable mess on voiced  
parts, and there is no way to fix the spacing manually because  
none of the relevant tools work in voiced parts. Trying to make  
modifications in the score doesn't help either.


Has anyone found a solution for this (other than extracting out)?

Cheers,

- Darcy


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[Finale] Grace Notes on Voiced Linked Parts

[Darcy James Argue]

On the other hand, I'm completely stumped when it comes to grace note  
spacing on voiced linked parts, which is, as far as I can tell,  
completely broken. A passage using grace notes that spaces fine on  
non-voiced parts will be an irredeemable mess on voiced parts, and  
there is no way to fix the spacing manually because none of the  
relevant tools work in voiced parts. Trying to make modifications in  
the score doesn't help either.


Has anyone found a solution for this (other than extracting out)?

Cheers,

- Darcy
-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Brooklyn, NY



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