AW: AW: [Finale] Transposition and Concert-Pitch
Hello Christopher, Thanks again for your answer. I have done a couple of tests and guess what I've figured out. I figured out that I don't know nothing anymore. Something has happened to my complete system since 2007 has been installed. Colossus interprets a Midi-Note 60 as a Midi-Note 48 ... and as far as I could see only on the Upright-library. And that in both finale 2006 and 2007. Using Colossus standalone works well. (I am running out of question marks :-) I am in need to see the origin pitch so I found, regarding to your answer, another work-around. I simply change the Colossus input transposition (12 up). In a couple of weeks I will get a 16Gb-Ram machine and I will hook up everything from scratch. Until then It has to work. Thanks a lot Best wishes Andrew Noah -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Christopher Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Montag, 24. September 2007 23:14 An: finale@shsu.edu Betreff: Re: AW: [Finale] Transposition and Concert-Pitch Okay, I understand. In your template, your bass part was obviously set NOT to transpose, so that it would sound in the correct octave with your playback device. In the new file, you copied a bass part that DOESN'T transpose to a staff that DOES transpose (as it is supposed to, BTW.) All you have to do is go into the Staff Attributes for the bass staff in your new document, select Transposition, and set it to None. Problem solved. Christopher On 24-Sep-07, at 3:53 PM, Andrew Noah Cap wrote: On Sep 23, 2007, at 6:28 PM, Andrew Noah Cap wrote: Hello you people out there, Does anyone know what Coda has done to alternate transposition thingy being found in the STAFF-ATTRIBUTE/EDIT box? I add a String bass to my score which should sound 8vb but the East West Colossus Sampler cannot play it being that it is out of range. Same procedure in F2006 works well. Hmmm...? There are other things as well I don't understand in 2007 but I got to make sure that this is not my fault before bothering you :-) Kind regards A.N.Cap As far as I know, nothing changed with 2007 in that area. How did you add the staff, with the Staff Tool double clicking or with New Staves With Setup Wizard? The second gives you a properly transposing bass staff, the first doesn't, so you would have to do it manually. I can't say anything about how East West maps their bass patches, but I have seen very inconsistent behaviour with many sound sets regarding correct octaves. You didn't say if it was too high or too low. Christopher Hello Christopher, thanks for your quick answer. I have created a template with the wizard using the given transposition. Then I opened an older file (F2k6) as untitled and copied all needed tracks into the template. just to figure out the bass is to deep. I have checked the same in 2006 and can say for sure it works fine. Later I added a String bass in another score using the double-click feature and setting the transposition manually, - same effect Now I am working with Finale 2006 again being that I am running out of time. I thought it is just a checkbox or something like that hidden somewhere no one would expect to find things there unless he got familiar to the 2007 logic, - sorry, but so many things have ruined my TG-Tool shortcuts... Boohoo Once again thank you for your answer and your patience Andrew Noah ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
AW: [Finale] Transposition and Concert-Pitch
On Sep 23, 2007, at 6:28 PM, Andrew Noah Cap wrote: Hello you people out there, Does anyone know what Coda has done to alternate transposition thingy being found in the STAFF-ATTRIBUTE/EDIT box? I add a String bass to my score which should sound 8vb but the East West Colossus Sampler cannot play it being that it is out of range. Same procedure in F2006 works well. Hmmm...? There are other things as well I don't understand in 2007 but I got to make sure that this is not my fault before bothering you :-) Kind regards A.N.Cap As far as I know, nothing changed with 2007 in that area. How did you add the staff, with the Staff Tool double clicking or with New Staves With Setup Wizard? The second gives you a properly transposing bass staff, the first doesn't, so you would have to do it manually. I can't say anything about how East West maps their bass patches, but I have seen very inconsistent behaviour with many sound sets regarding correct octaves. You didn't say if it was too high or too low. Christopher Hello Christopher, thanks for your quick answer. I have created a template with the wizard using the given transposition. Then I opened an older file (F2k6) as untitled and copied all needed tracks into the template. just to figure out the bass is to deep. I have checked the same in 2006 and can say for sure it works fine. Later I added a String bass in another score using the double-click feature and setting the transposition manually, - same effect Now I am working with Finale 2006 again being that I am running out of time. I thought it is just a checkbox or something like that hidden somewhere no one would expect to find things there unless he got familiar to the 2007 logic, - sorry, but so many things have ruined my TG-Tool shortcuts... Boohoo Once again thank you for your answer and your patience Andrew Noah ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: AW: [Finale] Transposition and Concert-Pitch
Okay, I understand. In your template, your bass part was obviously set NOT to transpose, so that it would sound in the correct octave with your playback device. In the new file, you copied a bass part that DOESN'T transpose to a staff that DOES transpose (as it is supposed to, BTW.) All you have to do is go into the Staff Attributes for the bass staff in your new document, select Transposition, and set it to None. Problem solved. Christopher On 24-Sep-07, at 3:53 PM, Andrew Noah Cap wrote: On Sep 23, 2007, at 6:28 PM, Andrew Noah Cap wrote: Hello you people out there, Does anyone know what Coda has done to alternate transposition thingy being found in the STAFF-ATTRIBUTE/EDIT box? I add a String bass to my score which should sound 8vb but the East West Colossus Sampler cannot play it being that it is out of range. Same procedure in F2006 works well. Hmmm...? There are other things as well I don't understand in 2007 but I got to make sure that this is not my fault before bothering you :-) Kind regards A.N.Cap As far as I know, nothing changed with 2007 in that area. How did you add the staff, with the Staff Tool double clicking or with New Staves With Setup Wizard? The second gives you a properly transposing bass staff, the first doesn't, so you would have to do it manually. I can't say anything about how East West maps their bass patches, but I have seen very inconsistent behaviour with many sound sets regarding correct octaves. You didn't say if it was too high or too low. Christopher Hello Christopher, thanks for your quick answer. I have created a template with the wizard using the given transposition. Then I opened an older file (F2k6) as untitled and copied all needed tracks into the template. just to figure out the bass is to deep. I have checked the same in 2006 and can say for sure it works fine. Later I added a String bass in another score using the double-click feature and setting the transposition manually, - same effect Now I am working with Finale 2006 again being that I am running out of time. I thought it is just a checkbox or something like that hidden somewhere no one would expect to find things there unless he got familiar to the 2007 logic, - sorry, but so many things have ruined my TG-Tool shortcuts... Boohoo Once again thank you for your answer and your patience Andrew Noah ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
